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August 6, 2012 12:09 PM

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Trayvon Martin's parents seek money from Fla. fund set up to help crime victims

By: Crimesider Staff
Topics: Daily Blotter

Tracy Martin, left, and Sybrina Fulton listen as the Florida State Attorney Angela Corey announces 2nd degree murder charges against George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed their son, Trayvon Martin.

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(CBS/AP) ORLANDO, Fla. - Trayvon Martin's mother has asked for an undisclosed amount of money from a state fund set up to help crime victims with expenses such as funeral expenses and counseling, according to documents obtained by the Associated Press.

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The documents, obtained through a public records request, show Sybrina Fulton applied for the compensation benefits after her son was fatally shot last February by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in a gated community in Sanford, Fla. It was not immediately clear how Martin's family would use the money.

The state Attorney General's Office, which administers the Crimes Compensation Trust Fund, refused to disclose the sum sought by Fulton and her former husband, Tracy Martin. Payouts can reach $30,000.

Zimmerman, 28, has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder and says he shot the 17-year-old in self-defense under Florida's "stand your ground" law. The law allows people to use deadly force, rather than retreat, if they believe their lives are in danger. He is free on $1 million bond as he awaits trial.

Zimmerman wasn't charged until 44 days after Martin's death, and in those weeks protesters accused the Sanford police department of being racist and botching the investigation.

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by ReckonedTruth August 7, 2012 9:31 PM EDT

..the 911 tapes does prove GZ demonstrated MALICE and contempt for Trayvon Martin and here's WHY.

Why did Zimmerman call Martin that explicative? Not having met the kid, not having any proof of anything other than walking down the street? Do "good honest" folk call random passerby explicatives?

Zombi Zimmerman needs to EXPLAIN WHY on the 911 tapes.. he accused the kid of being suspicious, possibly committing a crime, being on drugs, hands in pants as if he holding something= a weapon to the 911 dispatcher..which was actually a can of ICE TEA and a bag of candy)..and said he was getting away with it, and called him that explicative again on the 911 tapes...

the 911 tapes shows GZ had malice and contempt for a person he had NEVER met or knew before...that's called being paranoid and being fearful..and couple that with a daily dose of drug cocktails and a 9mm gun..provocation is bound to happen..

and let me say to the ZOMBI ZIMMERMANITE.. you nor I know what was in the mind of TM when provocation happened as you do claim..this HOMIE THUG TRASH dribble you stated with TM attitude .. is again total unadulterated stupidity..TM is not here to defend himshelf..

One thing you zimmermanites don't want to HEAR is this FACT.. trayvon was a MINOR by LAW.. and unarmed..and the FACT he was not a THUG as you hoping for to be proven and without tht zimmerman has NOTHING..well its going to be a FACT and noted as EVIDENCE he was a minor and unarmed..and no record proven he was a THUG of any sort..and once that fact is proven..those 911 tapes are going to be compelling to the MIND set of GZ and the malice and contempt he had against THE MINOR who was unarmed..Trayvon Martin shot DEAD as result of a paranoid, zealous, filled with malice and contempt against a person he NEVER knew..

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by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 10:07 AM EDT: THANK YOU!!!!

I am SOOOO glad someone else seems to understand what I've been saying this entire time!!!


by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 3:56 PM EDT: Wow. Scary to think in today's world that you need to walk around with a gun in order to survive every day, because some idiot may get the wrong idea about you and end up shooting you.

Scarier still to think that there are people who support idiots with guns.

This world's turning into nothing but cowards.


by ahendryx819 August 9, 2012 10:18 AM EDT: The SHOOTING was not justified. There was no "beating".

My whole issue with the entire case is, I don't like to see a perfectly good self-defense law, one that could protect many abuse victims, be exploited. It's going to make everyone question anyone who ever DOES have to defend themselves. Even the gentleman who WROTE the law doesn't think Zimmerman should be let off. Open your eyes and figure out what he's doing!

(and for the record I am NO damn liberal. And I have already stated that I am 100% for people's rights to bear arms. Just not idiots like this one...)

by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 1:07 PM EDT

OK, my responses to these hateful comments keep getting deleted, and it's beginning to **** me off. kkltr and fiddlesticks, if you're going to keep having the responses of your stupid opinions deleted, it's only showing how stupid and weak you are. Don't make stupid posts if you don't like the comments that you recieve.

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by rightontarget August 7, 2012 2:26 PM EDT: No, kkltr76, it's more about what YOU "wish" happened. In your little brain you actually see Trayvon as some kind of gang banger who went around beating up on people for no reason. Your terminology of calling him a "thug" with "no solid evidence" to support that is really pathetic. He has no records of stealing anything, having any gang related affiliations, no drive by shootings or anything. A baggie with "trace" amounts of pot (and you would be hard pressed to find any young person out there who hasn't at least tried it at one point or another). So this to you constitutes a "thug"?????? Really???? Oh, yeah, he hit a guy who was basically stalking him, refused to identify himself and posed a legitimate THREAT to him when all he wanted to do was go home. Go figure!!!!!!!!!!!


by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 3:06 PM EDT: Thank you rightontarget!!!

Really kkltr? You delete my comments because of my lack of evidence? I don't like your opinion one bit, for the same reasons that rightontarget pointed out, and because I think that you're racist. However, you are entitled to express them, and I think it would be petty and childish to have them deleted. Grow up.


by rightontarget August 7, 2012 5:24 PM EDT: kkltr, look if somebody was suspiciously following me or one of mine late at night and did not identify himself you can bet I would want them to take action rather than risk being attacked or worse. Zimmerman could have approached Martin in a NON-THREATENING manner, identified himself and EXPLAINED why he was watching him. If you continue home then the stalker will know where you live by following you. If you run, in all likelyhood he will catch up to you and get you anyway. If Martin happened to see the gun then he could assume Zimmerman might shoot him as he tried to run away. "Could have continued on home"? Really??? Not from my point of view. By that SAME token ZIMMERMAN could have identified himself or just STAYED in his vehicle and wait for the REAL cops to show up. This still does NOT provide any evidence that Martin was a "thug". Like I said before, you really have no clue what a "real" thug is. You would rather defend an arrogant cop wannabe BULLY who just wanted to make himself look good.

by teegeegail August 7, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

Have all you people forgot that the Martins had web-sites too!!! unlike Zimmerman we don't know how much they collected, i would think that they would have paid for Travons funeral first before taking trips to NEW YORK for what? to hold marches!!! Now they have the nerve to ask the STATE OF FLORIDA for money, I thought that money was for a victom who was the money maker for the family!!!I hardly think that Travon was the bread maker of the Martins.All i have seen on both of the Martins face & actions are of revenge & now just plain ass GREED.you don't ask one charity for money to give to another charity!! I'M glad that somebody beside me, wish the hooded 10 yr old vs the 17 yr finger salute photo's would stop!! the only truth in this whole case is a 17yr old was shot & killed and Zimmerman has been charged after that it's all talk, quesses & lots of opinions. OH don't forget GREED!!!! sounds like a movie to me or a book. one last comment, i know the Martins are out for blood but the tax payers in FLORIDA didn't do this so don't make us pay for it.if somebody WANTS TO GIVE you money thats fine BUT now you are TAKING it and could be that somebody might be out there who REEALLY needs it!!!! DON'T THINK GOD ISN'T WATCHING AND KNOWS ALL YOUR THOUGHTS!!!

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by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 1:13 PM EDT: Oh please. Crime victims' compensation is for ALL victims of violent crimes, regardless of whether or not they were the breadwinners or not. Educate yourself a little bit before you start trying to throw your 2 cents in. And quit repeating yourself; it's bad enough that you sound like an idiot once, nobody wants to read the same pathetic ramblings more than that.

The Martins are doing what they can to spread awareness and get justice for their son. They're not sitting around begging for pity the way the Zimmermans are. They're trying to ensure that this doesn't happen to anyone else's son. Or brother. Or nephew. Or father. And you seem to forget that, unlike the Zimmermans, the Martins haven't been wealthy. You left out the fact that Robert Zimmerman, former Justice of the US Supreme Court, is asking people for money for his heart condition. You can't seriously believe that those people don't already have money. If you do, you're an even bigger idiot than I thought.


by Cant_We_All_Get_Along August 7, 2012 6:43 PM EDT: Ahendryx....Actually, crime Victim's Funds are RESERVED for people who struggle finalcially.....And this is why Crump (one of Sybrina's many lawyers) has claimed she was too busy to fill out the paperwork (even though his job is to fill out the paperwork for her since she is so grief stricken). This is just one of the many lies Crump has made in this case.


by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 3:58 PM EDT: Not in my state. Too bad Florida's apparently not the same way. Then again, in my state, these kinds of crimes don't happen. And we have the right to carry concealed weapons. Apparently, people are just less paranoid and racist here than they are in Florida.....

by rightontarget August 7, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

by kkltr76 August 6, 2012 4:34 PM EDT
What they refuse to accept is that their son victimized george Zimmerman and was killed in the process. It really stinks when the parents of a violent "Thug" try to make the victim into the criminal!
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I'll say it again, Zimmerman was NO victim!!!
He brought it all on himself by basically stalking somebody all because of his EGO. Mr. Billy Badazz cop wannabe (who couldn't cut it as a REAL cop) just wanted to apprehend somebody so he could look like a big shot. Zim should have let the REAL cops do their job instead of trying to intimidate somebody who wasn't doing anything wrong at the time. His agressive behavoir and distain for the REAL authorities is well documented. (and Martin was NOT a "thug" - obviously you don't know what a real "thug" is.)

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by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 1:13 PM EDT: Agreed. It's disgusting that some people have the nerve to call this scumbag the victim. He's the one who took a life, meanwhile Trayvon was just trying to go home.


by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 10:13 AM EDT: Oh, he was "brutally assaulted," huh? 2 minor cuts to the back of the head and a nose that x-rays couldn't confirm had been broken is a brutal assault?! And you're from Chicago....I would think you know what real violence is, but apparently not.

Don't preach about defending the aggressor to me. I work in the domestic violence field, and I reeducate violent offenders weekly. (People much like George Zimmerman, who like to control others....) And you ARE defending the aggressor. Zimmerman's choice to stalk Trayvon and engage him without identifying himself makes HIM the aggressor.


by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 4:11 PM EDT: Wow....I cannot believe I just read that "injuries shouldn't be a measurement of the severity of the beating." That is easily one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. There is no case where that makes sense. If Trayvon was sooo tall, around 6ft. as some of you keep saying, and he was straddling Zimmerman and smashing his head into the concrete, it would have been a severe beating. And Zimmerman would have had some severe injuries. He didn't even have a concussion. So. Translation: Zimmerman's account of the "beating" does not match his injuries. Period. And I highly doubt that a jury of 12 is going to believe that it was a brutal beating, for that reason.

And Zimmerman was pissed when the dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon. His response was, "These ******** always get away." You can take that however you want, if you want to assume that Zimmerman was supercop and that the cops never get there in time to make an arrest, go ahead. And you can refer to the girl who was on the phone when Zimmerman approached Trayvon. He didn't just beat his ass; he asked Zimmerman what his problem was. Zimmerman could have identified himself then and there, yet he chose not to.

You're right; this is a murder trial. And all of the facts won't be presented. Why? Because the only other person who knows what happened that night was Zimmerman's victim. And it's not like Zimmerman himself is known for his honesty.

by ReckonedTruth August 7, 2012 10:18 AM EDT

by ahendryx819 August 6, 2012 3:10 PM EDT
Oh and the multiple websites set up by the Zimmermans weren't used just for them to profit off of this. If anything is fraudulant it is these websites.

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@ahendryx.. you're right on target.. it was all about profit..and the judge saw it that way too..to fraud the court about "said donations" sworn as the truth under oath..

..there's three websites now..where the zimmerman's are begging for money..they have no shame whatso ever..no dignity..

..and zimmerman should have made a BETTER choice that night..given the fact his depraved thought with paranora demonstrated (stating what HE SAID about a MINOR he didn't know to the 911 dispatcher which is PUBLIC INFORMATION- which demonstrated MALICE and paranoid fearmongering while carrying a 9MM gun)..

..and so if zimmerman had met with the police as he said he would at the property's mailbox location and he didn't and this makes him zealous STILL in pursuit..and as he claimed later he couldn't find his phone when he ans TM met,REALLY?-- and so furthmore, if he followed the advice recommended by the 911 dispacther(again zealous in not doing so).. a POOR CHOICE(lacks intelligence) obviously in the minds of MANY ..he wouldn't be charged with 2nd degree murder..

..and also BTW.. Omara(zimmerman's defense council)..is scheduled speak at a NRA convention late Sept. 2012..

INTERESTING!..now we know where the majority of donations for zimmerman has been coming from..

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by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 10:40 AM EDT: You are right on target as well. People are so willing to overlook the many holes and lies that have come out of Zimmerman to focus on what Trayvon did wrong, which in my opinion is nothing. It's an unfortunate part of our society, to blame the victim in any situation. Maybe if people actually started to hold the offenders of crimes accountable, people would be less likely to go out and commit crimes, such as murdering unarmed kids who happen to be on their way home from the store.


by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 10:14 AM EDT: ANYONE under the age of 18 is a MINOR, or kid or adolescent or whatever you want to call it. He wasn't an adult. Period. You may not like it but it's true. Deal with it.

by ReckonedTruth August 6, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

Ms. Martin as a mother is helping other VICTIMS similar to her son's fate.. who was profiled and murdered by a over zealous paranoid fearmonger.. these PPL are the most dangerous to our society of law abiding tax paying citizens.. and also to our minors as noted by LAW per said age of (17) and younger.. in the state of Florida.

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by rightontarget August 7, 2012 10:28 AM EDT: Zimmerman was NO victim! He brought it all on himself by basically stalking somebody all because of his EGO. Mr. Billy Badazz cop wannabe (who couldn't cut it as a REAL cop) just wanted to apprehend somebody so he could look like a big shot. Zim should have let the REAL cops do their job instead of trying to intimidate somebody who wasn't doing anything wrong at the time. His agressive behavoir and distain for the REAL authorities is well documented. He thinks his **** doesn't stink but I think he is about to find out otherwise.


by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 10:38 AM EDT: kkltr: Really??? Zimmerman is the victim? He's the one who carried a gun EVERYWHERE he went. He's also the one who went looking for a fight that night. Had he not had his gun with him, that "little man" would NOT have started that fight. Why? Because he's a coward. And yes, I would say he is an over-zealous paranoid fear monger. Someone who feels the need to carry a gun everywhere they go IS. (and I am not pro-gun-control by any means) But by far the most insulting thing that you have said is that he is the VICTIM. How is he the victim? He gets to continue about his life; Trayvon didn't even get to finish school. He never got to get married; he'll never be able to have a career and start his own life. All of that was taken away from him BY ZIMMERMAN. So before you start judging Trayvon's parents, try to imagine what it would be like to lose your son. (God willing, you will never EVER breed)


by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 1:15 PM EDT: Anyone who can't so much as go to the store without a gun IS an over-zealous paranoid fear monger!!

Sincerely,

A right to bear arms supporter.


by rightontarget August 7, 2012 1:37 PM EDT: I'm a "right to bear arms supporter" also. In this case Zimmerman's obsession of carrying a weapon was purly mental. He thought it made him a "badazz" and would intimidate others. He couldn't be a "real" cop so he would carry a weapon (by the way, which is something NOT recommended by ANY Neighborhood Watch group) just so he could "pretend" that he was legitimate law enforcement. (Ooooooh, be afraid, be very afraid.....Billy Badazz has a gun.) Yeah, be afraid alright. Anybody with that BULLY mentality needs to be locked away.


by ahendryx819 August 7, 2012 3:14 PM EDT: 911 tapes, kkltr. That's all I'm going to say. Anyone who's actually listened to them knows how I came to the conclusion that Zimmerman was looking for a fight.

Rightontarget, again, I agree with you. This scumbag makes us all look bad. I've done research on this, and I have found no neighborhood watch group that believes that it's members should carry guns, for reasons like this one. Zimmerman would never have even considered approaching Trayvon, had he not had a gun on him. And someone like him would carry a gun at all times, in case anyone dared to stand up to him, as Trayvon did. He has control issues, which are evident by his past criminal history. People like him are the reason that people who have been convicted of domestic violence in my state are not allowed to have firearms. It's too bad the charge against him was dropped, because if it hadn't been, it would be illegal for him to be in posession of a firearm, and maybe Trayvon would still be alive.

People need to see George Zimmerman for what he really is: a controlling, cowardish bully who likes to be in control of all of the people unfortunate enough to come into contact with him. Eventually, people like him do end up killing someone. In most cases, it's a spouse or former spouse. In this case, it was an unarmed kid who happened to cross his path.


by ahendryx819 August 8, 2012 10:17 AM EDT: kkkwhatever: See ReckonedTruth's post above in reference to the 911 tapes. They hit the nail on the head.

And yes, I am talking about VIOLENT offenses. It doesn't matter how long ago the domestic violence one happened, because he was never forced to take accountability for it. Until that happens, an abuser will continue to abuse others, because their belief that they are doing nothing wrong is being reenforced. (In his case, daddy bailing him out all the time is enabling him.) You don't know that he doesn't abuse his wife still....

by ahendryx819 August 6, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

So sad to me that people are already criticizing Martin's family for asking for money set aside to assist the families of crime victims. They are doing nothing more than utilizing the resources available to them. You don't see them setting up websites to get donations from people out of pity, like the Zimmermans have done. The Martin family has the right to recieve money, as their son was killed. George Zimmerman, however, should have thought about how much it was going to cost to get a lawyer before he decided to stalk, profile, and ultimately murder an unarmed kid!

Hey fiddlesticks, you make me sick.

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by LadySportster August 6, 2012 4:59 PM EDT: ahendry
I totally agree with you. And this person who is referring to Martin as a violent "Thug" has no idea what they are talking about. I believe that if someone were stalking my son walking down the street at night, I would expect my son to defend himself as well.
Zimmerman is the violent "Thug" Look at his public records.


by ahendryx819 August 6, 2012 6:31 PM EDT: Thanks LadySportster. I agree with you as well; if my son were being stalked on his way home at night and was confronted by someone he didn't know, I would expect him to defend himself as well. I have kids, and it scares the hell outta me to imagine them running into someone like Zimmerman or one of his nutjob supporters.

kkltr and whatever other aliases you're using....you keep referring to Trayvon as a "violent Thug".....where's your proof? And social media will not cut it with me, because nobody genuinely personofies themselves on the Internet. So what proof do you have that he was violent? He, unlike Zimmerman, didn't feel the need to carry a weapon at all times. In fact, the only people who do feel the need to do so are cops and gang members...Zimmerman was the one with a gun, and he was no cop.

by fiddlestickawshucks August 6, 2012 1:16 PM EDT

Finally; a picture of Martin at age 17 instead of age 12.!

Martin's family received an as yet undisclosed amount of money from Public to help with funeral expenses and hiring a lawyer.

This is fraud.!

Just a ploy to enrich themselves further.!

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by ahendryx819 August 6, 2012 3:10 PM EDT: Oh and the multiple websites set up by the Zimmermans weren't used just for them to profit off of this. If anything is fraudulant it is these websites.


by teegeegail August 7, 2012 12:07 PM EDT: Finally!!! you got it right, the Martins had web-sites that they used just like Zimmerman did. now they have the nerve to ask the people of florida to keep giving them money, that money should be used as it should be, sorry but i don't think TRAVON was the BREAD & BUTTER of that family, so by his death just how much income did they loose? I know those trips to NEW YORK cost a fortune, so why did they go there to demostrate when they live in florida? I bet all those attorneys they had cost a pretty penny. unlike zimmerman they haven't had to disclose how much money they have collocted!!maybe a new car to drive themselves to all the public speaking she does,just to keep this case fresh in the news. I haven't seen or heard the Martins talking to other young kids or parents about something that happens eveyday, Travon isn't the first person killed by a gun.all i have sen from BOTH parents is revenge and now GREED!!! SHAME on the STATE OF FLORIDA if they recieve 1 dime!!!!


by ReckonedTruth August 7, 2012 12:32 PM EDT: apparently you said one thing that was correct with your dribble..and that was you haven't heard because you haven't LOOKED/seeked to see what the Martin family has done SINCE the murder and death of their son..

..it was them who tirelessly FOUGHT for due process under the law for Trayvon Martin for (44) days when the Sanford PD Chief wanted to push this murder under the rug as the jim crow network of florida has often done for FAR TO LONG ...

..the Martins have spoken too countless rallies for JUSTICE in this land for the victims of this land who were treated not EQUAL under the LAW.. from east to west and north to south and now other nations are interested in what the Martins have to say..and they continue WEEKLY to be somewhere in AMERICA fighting for EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW for ALL VICTIMS..

and for the record.. there are still some good hearted PPL still alive on hte planet..who simply donate money to the Martin family everywhere they go..

..give us the links to the Martin websites as you mentioned where the MARTIN FAMILY is actually ASKING for donations..

We'll wait..