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Econwatch
July 24, 2009 11:30 AM

Madoff Victims: What Will They Get Back?

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By Marlys Harris of MoneyWatch.com.

Victims of Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme may have allowed themselves a rare smile on July 14, when the 71-year-old was locked up in a prison cell at a federal correctional center in Butner, N.C. His new neighbors behind the barbed wire include terrorist Omar Abdel Rahman, the "Blind Sheik" who masterminded the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and John Rigas, the disgraced former CEO of Adelphia. Madoff, who reportedly was assigned to work in the prison's engraving shop, is scheduled to be released in 2136. In other words, barring a miracle, Bernie Madoff will never be free again.

But there won't be any real justice until investors recoup at least some of the estimated $65 billion he stole. In letter after letter to U.S. District Court Judge Denny Chin, who presided over the case, Madoff victims wrote of personal privations they had suffered: homes lost, newly destitute parents pressed to move out of nursing homes they can no longer afford, children forced to withdraw from college, people returning to work after years of retirement. Says Ronnie Sue Ambrosino, who with her husband Dominic lost $1.6 million: "Until we get our money, there is no justice."

Past victims of Ponzi schemes have historically recovered only pennies on the dollar, if anything. Often, bankruptcy trustees and other officials moved so sluggishly to recover stolen funds that the miscreant and his family had plenty of time to stash their gains offshore. In this case, however, bankruptcy trustee Irving Picard rushed to locate Madoff's money and to sue any beneficiaries of the fraud. To determine to what degree he and other officials keep faith with investors, I have taken it as my mission in the coming months (and years) to follow the efforts to recoup the money. You'll be able to read all about it here and in my blog, The Consumer Reporter.

Despite the alacrity of the trustee, investors are likely to find their quest for justice long and possibly unrewarding. For starters, nobody knows how much money is available for the 15,400 investors who filed claims with the bankruptcy trustee. Picard has recovered only $1.5 billion from the defunct firm's assets. Some investors — but not all — can count on help from IRS refunds and from the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC), an industry organization whose mandate is to restore funds to customers of bankrupt brokerage firms. But "indirects" — investors whose money found its way to Madoff's firm through hedge funds, banks, pension funds, and brokerages — cannot qualify for such help from Picard. Their only resort is to file a lawsuit against the entity that sent them to Madoff, its accountants and insurance companies; so far, investors have launched 130 suits.

(Some) Tax Relief on the Way

The IRS, one of the most loathed government agencies, was first to ease the victims' pain. Under its rules, investors are entitled to declare a theft loss and deduct the amount of their investment, including income they've reported in past years, even if it was fictitious. They must subtract from the loss any amount they expect to recover and exclude any insurance payments they receive. IRA investors will not be allowed to take the deduction because they have not paid taxes on the principal or the earnings.

Despite those limitations, says Richard S. Lehman, a tax lawyer in Boca Raton, Fla., who has several Madoff victims as clients, it's not a bad deal. "If you were in the top bracket when you paid your taxes on the profits and maybe you paid 5 percent in state taxes, you would get back 40 percent," he explained. Excess losses can be carried back five years (three years for indirect investors) or carried forward as much as 20 years. Many of the victims, however, won't be able to use all their losses to offset future income because they will have lower incomes and thus lower tax rates. Elderly Madoff investors may die before they can use it. Lehman recommended (in jest) to one of his clients that he take out a personal ad: "Bachelor with $15 million loss carryforward looking for woman facing large future tax bills."

SIPC to the (Partial) Rescue

Only days after the Madoff fraud came to light in December, the SIPC won court permission to extend its protections to the company's investors. The SIPC provides up to $500,000 per account. Investors can qualify for expedited payment if they meet a hardship standard: They are unable to pay for necessities such as housing, food, utilities, and transportation; can't pay for necessary medical expenses; must return to work at age 65 or older after having previously retired; or have to declare bankruptcy. The process takes about 40 days, but investors who put money in before 1996 will have to wait until the trustee unscrambles their account records.

The SIPC safety net has gaping holes through which many investors are falling, however. Only the people who had accounts with Madoff's firm — about 4,600 — are eligible to collect. People who came to Madoff through feeder funds are not covered. A giant feeder fund with one account at Madoff's firm might be able to claim the maximum $500,000, but it would have to divide that among all its customers. (The trustee is suing to keep some feeder funds from collecting SIPC money, alleging that they were privy to the fraud.) Another problem: The SIPC insures each account, not each investor. Extended families or groups, such as medical practices that pooled their savings in one account totaling millions of dollars, still cannot collect more than $500,000.

The trustee, moreover, has decided to value investors' accounts on the basis of "net equity" — their initial investment minus any withdrawals. A Madoff customer who invested $300,000 back in 2001 and withdrew $100,000 over time could collect a maximum of only $200,000, even if his November 2008 statement claimed his account was worth $1.2 million. The decision has sparked controversy. "It's ridiculous to think that the SIPC would compensate people based on what Bernie Madoff made up in his head," said one lawyer. But investors don't see it that way. "The SIPC law says that you should be paid based on your legitimate expectations," says Ambrosino. Even though she and her husband Dominic, a former corrections officer, invested only a few hundred thousand, they planned their lives in retirement based on the $1.6 million they saw on their statement. This June, several investors launched a class-action suit demanding that Picard repay them the amounts that were on their statements.

The Hunt for Assets

So far, the trustee has approved 542 claims worth about $2.9 billion. Of that, the SIPC will pay some $231 million. That leaves those investors on the hook for $2.7 billion, except for any money they can collect from Picard. Picard now estimates that Madoff's total take was about $13.5 billion. The money he recovers will be repaid to direct investors in proportion to their net equity.

Billions went out the door to investors who redeemed funds and also to commissions and fees to feeder funds that brought money to Madoff. To recover that money, Picard has launched lawsuits against the principals of eight large feeder funds claiming that most either knew about the fraud or must have been wearing blindfolds. Cohmad Securities, for example, a brokerage whose major function was to bring customers to Madoff, shared office space with him. With the help of Madoff employees, according to a complaint filed by the trustee, it maintained a list that showed the real balance in each customer's account, minus the mythic profits. Even more telling, Cohmad brokers received a commission based on money under management — the real amounts, not the fictional totals. Ergo, folks at Cohmad must have known what was going on. Fairfield Greenwich Group, which reeled in $7.2 billion from investors, held itself out as a sophisticated hedge fund. As such, its officers should not have missed enough red flags to do China proud, claims a lawsuit filed by the trustee. One of many warning signs: The number of put and call options that Madoff would have had to buy or sell on any given day often exceeded the number of options bought or sold in the entire market on those days. Picard is seeking a total of $11 billion, give or take a few hundred million. That's enough to provide some comfort to investors. But, at this point, nobody knows whether the trustee will win the cases, or even if defendants would have the money to pay such judgments.

'I'll Sue!'

As even Willie Sutton understood, to get something — anything — investors have to go where the money is. They need to find somebody who still has money — or an insurance company to pay the claim. So they have sued practically everyone responsible for delivering them to Madoff. Plumber and Steamfitters Local 73 of Syracuse, N.Y., for example, has filed suit against two investment managers, the Bank of New York, and an auditor for allocating 40 percent of their retirement funds to Madoff. A Philadelphia health care and medical workers pension fund is suing its advisers for much the same reason, saying that they gave Madoff $700,000. Medical practices, New York Law School, the Town of Fairfield, Conn., the Palm Beach police department, the New Mexico teachers union — the list goes on and on — plunked money into funds whose advisers, apparently without much thought or due diligence, wired the money to Madoff's company. The claims are conflicting, to say the least. After all, if the trustee and investors both sue a feeder fund, whose claim takes precedence?

Sorting it all out will take time. Timothy Mungovan, a partner with Nixon Peabody, a Boston law firm that has many Madoff customers for clients, says he expects the process to take 10 years to unwind. "It's like microwave popcorn," he says. "For a while, you'll get nothing. Then, gradually it starts popping, and there's a huge amount of activity, and then it'll drop off." For investors who have lost their homes, their savings, and their peace of mind, however, justice delayed that long is justice denied.


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by renonv5 July 24, 2009 8:54 PM EDT
Tisk, tisk. I will lose millions because I put all my eggs in one basket. Pity the fool.....................
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by ireallydoknow July 24, 2009 6:48 PM EDT
The answer to the title of the piece is obvious -- the satisfaction of raw revenge.
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by get_down July 24, 2009 5:19 PM EDT
Somehow I don't have any sympathy for those so-called Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme victims. Due to their own greed that they either didn't realize that it's a "scam" or based upon their pure greed - they chose to ignore the danger at the whole arrangement. Be that a tough life-lesson for all of them.
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by FrankDenise July 24, 2009 11:20 PM EDT
Hey Slow Down Man....What about union members who had no control over where there money was invested...Thousands of carpenter in NY lost their pensions that they worked there life away for...Is it there fault the union chose Madoff as their investor????We were never told who are money was invested with...So stop assuming that only rich people lost money...What about regular hard working blue collar guys like myself who were robbed and it wasnt even in our control..That is why this country and local governmeents are in the shape their in...No one can be trusted when it comes to money...It is totally disguisting and outrageous...Get your facts first before you make a dumb ass comment..
by get_down July 25, 2009 6:15 PM EDT
Hey Frank D, if you only know how to read this article, maybe - just maybe you'll find a way out. The following excerpt just might enlighten your narrow-mind - "As even Willie Sutton understood, to get something ? anything ? investors have to go where the money is. They need to find somebody who still has money ? or an insurance company to pay the claim. So they have sued practically everyone responsible for delivering them to Madoff. Plumber and Steamfitters Local 73 of Syracuse, N.Y., for example, has filed suit against two investment managers, the Bank of New York, and an auditor for allocating 40 percent of their retirement funds to Madoff. A Philadelphia health care and medical workers pension fund is suing its advisers for much the same reason, saying that they gave Madoff $700,000. Medical practices, New York Law School, the Town of Fairfield, Conn., the Palm Beach police department, the New Mexico teachers union ? the list goes on and on ? plunked money into funds whose advisers, apparently without much thought or due diligence, wired the money to Madoff's company. The claims are conflicting, to say the least. After all, if the trustee and investors both sue a feeder fund, whose claim takes precedence?" P.S. If you started with "name-calling" at other poster's "personal opinion" instead of finding a way to channel your personal mental anguish over your own financial-loss from your own greed to the rightful party - that can only manifest what an uneducated person you are - then you deserve to be a true loser!
by vegas2go July 24, 2009 4:28 PM EDT
Madoff is in Prison, probably for life. So he will pay with his Life. Most of the people he Scammed are Elderly, so they unfortunately will not get their money back. But they are FREE, to live thier Lives; unlike Madoff. Ask him, what is the Price of Freedom? I'm sure he would tell you - it's Priceless. Justice is done.
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by pete_in_az July 25, 2009 12:05 AM EDT
Except he gets 3 squares for punching license plates and many of them starve.
by joe_transit July 24, 2009 3:19 PM EDT
Bernie saw this coming, the money is hidden away so Ruth can be comfortable for life and the kids all taken care of. Some of his accomplishes also have access to large amounts of cash. This was a well thought out plan and we are all still being scammed. One over looked scam is the government bail out money, it's making a lot of people rich and we have no idea where it all went. They win we loose.
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by tincup356 July 25, 2009 12:28 AM EDT
White collar ,suit and tie terrorists,called Democrats AND Republicans,,,,,no different than the crypts and the bloods.
by gmiller1969 July 24, 2009 2:40 PM EDT
How many greedy bastards invested with Bernie to get a quick high return on their money? Those people deserve what they got!
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by gmiller1969 July 24, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
How many greedy bastards invested with Bernie to get a quick high return on their money? Those people deserve what they got!
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by FrankDenise July 24, 2009 11:22 PM EDT
Another dumb comment from an uneducated person..Read what I wrote below about the thousands of union members that lost everything they worked for and it wasnt even their fault.......Wake Up
by get_down July 26, 2009 10:44 AM EDT
"The trustee, moreover, has decided to value investors' accounts on the basis of "net equity" ? their initial investment minus any withdrawals. A Madoff customer who invested $300,000 back in 2001 and withdrew $100,000 over time could collect a maximum of only $200,000, even if his November 2008 statement claimed his account was worth $1.2 million. The decision has sparked controversy. "It's ridiculous to think that the SIPC would compensate people based on what Bernie Madoff made up in his head," said one lawyer. But investors don't see it that way. "The SIPC law says that you should be paid based on your legitimate expectations," says Ambrosino. Even though she and her husband Dominic, a former corrections officer, invested only a few hundred thousand, they planned their lives in retirement based on the $1.6 million they saw on their statement. This June, several investors launched a class-action suit demanding that Picard repay them the amounts that were on their statements." Hummm - "wasnt even their fault" - I beg to differ! Those so-called Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme "Victims" MIS-READ the HUGE dividend that showed up on their FRAUDULENT statement sent from Bernard Madoff's associates and thinking "How fortunate and lucky they are" - "Fortunate" because while the regular next-door neighbor Joe Blow was only able to receive close to zero bank interests - yet their FRAUDULENT statement from Bernard Madoff flashing right before their greedy eyes a whopping 10-20+% interests?; "Lucky" because according to the way that Bernard Madoff perfected his Ponzi scheme is "only the select few" would be allowed to participate in his top-secret scheme! Greedy and got burned - "Yes"! Expect sympathy from the law-abiding citizens - not a NY minute chance!
by drstu1 July 24, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
Its almost inconceivable that a news reporter from CBS continues to broadcast totally inaccurate information about the Madoff scandal. Is Marlys Harris a real reporter? Or someone in kindergarten? Its been known for months that Madoff didn't still $65 billion. The total amount of cash that investors placed with him didn't exceed $12billion-$13 billion. So how could he have stolen $65 billion?? Perhaps instead of reporting, you should learn how to do math...and visit Bernie's Blog if you want real facts. www.bernard-madoff-scam.blogspot.com every other journalist does..
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by drthvader July 24, 2009 8:01 PM EDT
drstu1: I don't mean to be snarky here, but why should the public or Madoff victims for that matter, believe anything on Bernie's blog? He was completely trusted once, is there any trust to be found in that man or his blogspot?
by pizzanick2 July 24, 2009 8:13 PM EDT
DRSTU1, yes you are correct. These investors are just as geeedy as Madoff. The reporters never think about what they write sometimes. These people invested maybe 10-15 billion with Madoff and their money grew to $65 billion. The $65 billion isn't real money because it was all a lie since Madoff faked everyone's statements and used the money for himself. So in actuality they only have a legitimate claim for $10-15 billion. The investors who made out like bandits are the ones who cashed out early at the "FAKE" account levels. Madoff paid those withdrawls with the money that was coming in from new investors. The lawyers should go after the investors who got out early to get their money back for the ones who were left holding the bag.
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