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Econwatch
February 23, 2009 3:10 PM

Is Obama Serious About Fiscal Responsibility?

By
Declan McCullagh
Topics
Budget
In mid-October, Democratic politicians in Washington were proposing to spend $300 billion through what they called a stimulus bill. The final version that President Obama signed last week eventually ballooned to $787 billion.

(CBS)
This is the reality that the president faces today as he and Vice President Joe Biden convene a meeting at the White House called the "Fiscal Responsibility Summit" with over 100 invited participants, including some Republicans. As CBSNews.com reported earlier, the meeting comes a few days before the Obama administration will send its first budget request to the U.S. Congress.

The challenge for Mr. Obama will be introducing fiscal prudence into a Washington culture that has shown great affection for encouraging the government to live far beyond its means.

Under President George W. Bush, politicians of both major parties voted to increase the national debt by roughly 2.5 times. At the dawn of Bill Clinton's presidency, government debt was $4.3 trillion, and increased by only $1.4 trillion in eight years. Now the debt limit has been lifted to $11.3 trillion -- and the debt itself has ballooned to over $10.8 trillion.

Put another way, if the U.S. GDP is around $14 trillion and shrinking, we're approaching a day when debt exceeds 100 percent of GDP, a situation not seen since World War II.

That doesn't count future Social Security and Medicare payments -- yes, those dread unfunded mandates -- that a Federal Reserve official last year estimated to be an astounding $99.2 trillion, or $1.3 million per family of four.

This is no mere academic exercise. As the national debt grows, more and more tax dollars must be used to pay interest to our creditors. We already pay over $450 billion a year in interest on the national credit card; without that debt to pay off, income taxes could be almost 40 percent lower.

Our biggest foreign creditors are China ($696.2 billion in Treasury bonds) and Japan ($578.3 billion). If they become worried about our ability to pay them back without devaluing the U.S. dollar, they could demand higher interest rates. That would cost taxpayers more in interest payments and, perhaps, sharply raise rates on 15-year and 30-year mortgages. Think of what that would do to housing prices.

The New York Times reported last month that China is losing its taste for U.S. debt and is "starting to keep more of its money at home, a move that could have painful effects for American borrowers."

Yet there's already talk in Washington of a second "stimulus" package, and Mr. Obama himself refused to rule out the possibility last week. Some economists, like Yale University's Robert Shiller, believe at least one more round of legislating is "likely." The Obama administration's challenge will be to choose which is more important: more deficit spending, or today's stated goal of fiscal responsibility.

  • Declan McCullagh is the chief political correspondent for CNET. Declan previously was a reporter for Time and the Washington bureau chief for Wired and wrote the Taking Liberties section and Other People's Money column for CBS News' Web site.

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by samthetvcat February 24, 2009 3:18 PM EST
Posted by alphaa10000

I'm sorry for my part in ruining the classy, dignified, insightful and intelligent discussion you were bringing to the comments section.

I wish I were a cooler customer the way Pres. Obama is able to handle his adversaries like John McCain and Eric Cantor, but thankfully the comments section got shut down at the perfect time for a time out HA HA.

Anyways, thanks for trying to steer us all to a better place - I really appreciated your effort! :)
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by willnotyield February 23, 2009 10:23 PM EST
But FDR was forced by events to make a try, and finally his measures took hold.

Posted by alphaa10000 at 07:15 PM : Feb 23, 2009

His measures took hold but it wasn't the measures of the new deal that was responsible. It was the inadvertent policies dictated by WWII that brought us out of it. A squirrel could have been president at that time and we still would have gotten out of the depression. It was circumstances that brought us out of it. Not any intentional design of FDR's.

I do not have a definition of the budget surplus. It was the GAO that said it was a projected surplus. Bush ruined that projection but it never existed any way so stop saying that it did. 911 dictated that it wasn't going to happen anyway.
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by willnotyield February 23, 2009 10:10 PM EST
---"...anyone wish to chip in and get SamTheTVCat and willnotyield a hotel room?"---
Posted by inventagod2

EEEW!!!!! I was just trying to make up for being so mean! He must be my dad''s age!


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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 06:43 PM : Feb 23, 20

Statuatory Rape! No thanks.
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by willnotyield February 23, 2009 10:09 PM EST
Maybe you didn''t realize I was a girl, but I am and that felt very threatening.


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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 06:41 PM : Feb 23, 2009

I didn't bring up the fact that you are a girl. You did. That means you brought up the gender thing as if it was supposed to matter in these debates. If you can't handle arguing intelligently with the opposite *** you will have a hard time keeping a man when you finally do get married. as far as the suicide coment it was meant to be metephorically and not to be taken seriously. You must be young and nieve to believe what you are hearing. Most knowledgeable people would tell you to take the cotton out of your ears and put them in your mouth. That meaning to listen before you speak. And pay attention to someone who has had way more life experiences before you shoot you mouth off about topics of which you have no knowledge of.
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by willnotyield February 23, 2009 10:03 PM EST
But in a crisis, pulling a cardiac arrest case back from the brink requires more than an appeal from Stoic meditations of Marcus Aurelius. We must apply measures known to work.

Chief among those measures is Keynesian stimulus. Historically, FDR was a budget conservative, and it ran against his grain to think in any but the same terms that let Bill Clinton give Bush2 a budget surplus. But FDR was forced by events to make a try, and finally his measures took hold. Postwar America, by comparison, was a Hollywood Anaheim shot few back in Hooverville could-- or would-- have imagined.


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Posted by alphaa10000 at 06:44 PM : Feb 23, 2009

1. We only got out of the depression when the WWII and the military industrial complex brought us out of it. FDR's plan only prolonged the situation.

2. There was no budget surplus given to Bush 2. Only a projected Budget surplus based on fictional increases in the economic future. Just like the oil futures that took gas prices to 4.oo a gallon +.
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by robert2237 February 23, 2009 9:57 PM EST
First off people should remember that the poor as we call them in this country live better than 50% of the world and better than most middle class in other countries. So to call people in proverty is kinda a false statement if you compare it to the world and it seems people want to compare some things to the rest of the world if it makes the agendas sound better. But they will say don't compare us with the world on things which are most that make their agenda much weaker if compare.

Obama is taking us into H*ll and fast. Its time to stop this.
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by samthetvcat February 23, 2009 9:43 PM EST
---"...anyone wish to chip in and get SamTheTVCat and willnotyield a hotel room?"---
Posted by inventagod2

EEEW!!!!! I was just trying to make up for being so mean! He must be my dad's age!
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by samthetvcat February 23, 2009 9:41 PM EST
PPS Oh, and I'm good at reading when somebody's silence and withdrawal actually means 20 different things, or when they say one thing but mean something totally different, or when watching football is just watching football.

If it upset you at the outset that I made a tacky joke about George Bush being a 'moron' maybe it would have been more productive to suggest I elevate my conduct and then showed me by example how to better present my ideas rather than suggest suicide.

Maybe you didn't realize I was a girl, but I am and that felt very threatening.
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by inventagod2 February 23, 2009 9:40 PM EST
...anyone wish to chip in and get SamTheTVCat and willnotyield a hotel room?
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by samthetvcat February 23, 2009 9:33 PM EST
PS By the way I don't doubt you have a happy relationship with your wife, and that you treat her well. But she's never beat you in a debate over political or economic policy and maybe that works well for the two of you.

All the relationships I've had work for me because the men I date aren't threatened by that because I respect them, and appreciate how they make my life great, and I accept them for who they are.

Different strokes. I would NEVER suggest you go kill yourself.
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