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CBS News/ December 10, 2009, 12:34 PM

Obama Nobel Peace Prize Speech Channels George W. Bush

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As President Obama wrapped up his remarks at the acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize Thursday, it's easy to imagine the members of the Nobel Committee saying to themselves, "wait – we gave it to that guy?"

After all, the general consensus among commentators was that Mr. Obama had won the prize because he represented such a change from his predecessor, George W. Bush, whose rhetoric and foreign policy were anathema to most Europeans.

And yet while Mr. Obama offered a nuanced speech laying out what some have already started to call an Obama Doctrine, he also made an unmistakable argument for the legitimacy of war – sometimes using the sort of phrases that called to mind the very words of the man he replaced.

"Evil does exist in the world," Mr. Obama said as part of a long argument in favor of the concept of a "just war."

That line brought to mind Mr. Bush's repeated invocation of evil – including his argument in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks that "our responsibility to history is already clear: to answer these attacks and rid the world of evil."

President Obama said there are times when "the use of force [is] not only necessary but morally justified"; he argued that he "cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people."

Cue Mr. Bush on the USS Abraham Lincoln, May 2003: "Any outlaw regime that has ties to terrorist groups or seeks to possess weapons of mass destruction is a grave danger to the civilized world and will be confronted."

Mr. Obama also made the case for American exceptionalism, an attitude associated more with his predecessor.

America, he said, "has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms."

"We have borne this burden not because we seek to impose our will," said Mr. Obama. "We have done so out of enlightened self-interest -- because we seek a better future for our children and grandchildren, and we believe that their lives will be better if others' children and grandchildren can live in freedom and prosperity."

To be sure, the speech also included the sort of nuance that we've come to expect from Mr. Obama: He called himself a "living testimony to the moral force of non-violence" and said war is "never glorious" and "at some level is an expression of human folly."

He said he was seeking "alternatives to violence that are tough enough to actually change behavior." He spoke of the "spark of the divine that still stirs within each of our souls."

"He is a subtle guy," New York Times columnist Tom Friedman said after the speech. "It wasn't George W. Bush, you know, 'we're out there promoting freedom in every corner of the world, this is where we are.'"

Yet while the message may not have exactly mirrored the arguments of Mr. Bush, the takeaway, in the end, was not much different: The world is a messed-up place, and America is justified and right in confronting that reality even if that means using military force.

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When the president noted that "in many countries there is a deep ambivalence about military action today, no matter what the cause," he was to some extent directly addressing his audience. "And at times," he continued, "this is joined by a reflexive suspicion of America, the world's sole military superpower."

In no uncertain terms, he said that attitude is wrong.

"A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies," said Mr. Obama. "Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force may sometimes be necessary is not a call to cynicism -- it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason."

It is no surprise that the president came to Oslo to make the case for war: It would have been impossible to ignore the fact that one week ago he made the decision to send 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan, an eight-year-old conflict that critics say has no clear end in sight. But one can safely assume that the members of the Peace Prize Committee did not honor Mr. Obama in an effort to give him a platform to lay out his justification for American intervention abroad.

Yes, this was in part a speech about human rights, about the perils of religious extremism, about preventing the spread on nuclear weapons, and about – in the clearest repudiation of Mr. Obama's processor – the importance of abiding by the Geneva Conventions and not torturing ones enemies. It was, in those portions, the speech the committee might have expected.

But it was also a speech in defense of war – and an argument that America alone should not shoulder the burden for waging it.

"I understand why war is not popular, but I also know this: The belief that peace is desirable is rarely enough to achieve it," he said. "Peace requires responsibility. Peace entails sacrifice. That's why NATO continues to be indispensable. That's why we must strengthen U.N. and regional peacekeeping, and not leave the task to a few countries."

He added: "America alone cannot secure the peace."

The address may have come with the subtlety and nuance that Mr. Bush too-often lacked, and it may have taken a long view in a way that Mr. Bush often failed to do.

But at its heart was a message upon which Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama, for all their perceived differences, seem to wholeheartedly agree.

More on Obama's Nobel Prize:

Obama Offers Treatise on War and Peace
Obama: U.S. Standard Bearer for Peace
Washington Unplugged: Obama In Oslo: War For Peace
Photos: Obama in Norway
Full Text of Obama's Remarks
Video: Obama's Nobel Prize Speech (excerpts)
Analysis: Can Obama Deliver on Nobel Peace Prize Goals?
Who Should Get Obama's Nobel Prize Cash?
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caos123 says:
well, the nobel peace prize was totally corrupted when they gave it to kissinger, responsible for keeping the veitnam war going for years at the expense of many thousands of lives.
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erb0087 says:
RE: "Yes, he makes good speeches, nothing more!"

You wonder what some of these people expect a President to bbe doing... Should he be out chopping wood or finding lost puppies ?

Obama just spent a long period evaluating various plans for the conduct of the war in Afghanistan, and then arrived at a responsible decision.

But some of these folks, who seem to know nothing but the constantly repeated talking points of far right wing radio, come here and recycle them daily.
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erb0087 says:
by gboyd41 December 10, 2009 11:50 PM EST
Yes, he makes good speeches, nothing more! He has no clue as to what it means to be President.
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Previous Presidents -- Teddy Roosevelt, Harry Truman among them -- made good speeches about health care reform.

Barack Obama is about to get it done. It will be a tremendous achievement for just his first year in office, and a testament to his leadership prowess, since health care reform has been but one of many major issues he's been working on.

Yes, Obama makes great speeches. So did Lincoln and Churchill.
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independent_midwesterner says:
Channeling George Bush proves that he is just another celebrity President that has spent more time travelling than be ing president.

He clearly has no new ideas and his economic policies are made by wall street. He will bankrupt america and be a one term president!
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gboyd41 says:
NtheNews- it's Xanax,not Zanax. By the way, some might be of the opinion that a lack of the ability to spell might indicate a low intelligence. Just a hint.
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RatPackSixGun replies:
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Correcting the spelling of others in an oblique attack of the messenger when one does not like the message is even more low brow and ignorant as you accuse another of being. Just a hint.
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Michelle-Obama-Examiner says:
It was one of the best speeches barack Obama has ever given. My favorite line that will go down in history I'm sure.
"I make this statement mindful of what Martin Luther King said in this same ceremony years ago ? ?Violence never brings permanent peace. It solves no social problem: it merely creates new and more complicated ones.? As someone who stands here as a direct consequence of Dr. King?s life?s work, I am living testimony to the moral force of non-violence. I know there is nothing weak ?nothing passive ? nothing na?ve ? in the creed and lives of Gandhi and King."
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gboyd41 replies:
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Yes, he makes good speeches, nothing more! He has no clue as to what it means to be President.
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NtheNews says:
EXCELLENT JOB MR PRESIDENT - EXCELLENT JOB.

The poll that the news keeps talking about only surveyed 1031 people. THOSE OF US NOT POLLED STILL SUPPORT YOU.
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prajaowain says:
Just to add what I said earlier there have been lots of misconceptions about freedom fighters, just as there have been about terrorists. The biggest misconception is that all freedom fighters are terrorists and that all terrrorists are freedom fighters. Lets face the facts here, some freedom fighters are terrorists and commit violent acts and some do not use violence to achieve there goals. Now of course then not all terrorists are freedom fighters but some terrorists are freedom fighters that use violence as a means to attain ther goals. During our American revolution we may have considered ourselfs as freedom fighters but the British may have considered us to be terrrorists. The Romans may have considered the Celtic tribes on the fringes of the empire as being terrorists but the Celtic tribe may have considered themselves as freedom fighters. Do any of you get my point here?
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mljohns00 replies:
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Whether you are a terrorist or not depends on which side you are on. People who commit "terrorist acts" do it not because they are "bad people". They are desparate, fighting for what they believe in, and are using the only tools left to them.
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prajaowain says:
I never said I hated you. Your the one that projected hatred towards me by calling me a terrorist thesevenveils. Like Dylan says," Everybody wants you to be just like them". This is one of the driving forces of terrorism. There are many driving forces of terrorism. Also one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. It is all very relative.
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cattiej says:
Well, now it is time to bring on the draft. Tax everyone for this war, put the tax on everyone's paycheck or retirement check. Let's get the guys who are without jobs and running around the streets at night shooting people into the Marines and Army. We already have so many of our soldiers overseas that if America were attacked there isn't enough of our old soldiers to protect us. If there was a terrible flood, fire, earthquake, hurricanes or other natural tragedy, we don't have enough of our national guard people left to help us. We, ladies and gentleman, are sitting ducks.
We voted for Obama because he told us that if he was elected President, the first thing he would do was to bring home our troops..He lied. I am ashamed of our own government. My ancestors came to America in te 1600's, we in our family, are all Americans. We love our country, we just love the people running it. Do you?
This Nobel Peace prize is now tainted forever. Who ever sent and the committee who selected Obama to be given it, under false and utter lies, must be very unhappy. I would like to know if anyone knows who and how Obama's name was selected.
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NtheNews replies:
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War started around the time our ancestors came to this country - it is not a new or novel concept. I voted for the President also, but he is not a magician; he has to execute a withdrawal strategy first. Even when companies downsize and jobs are lost, the company must have a strategy. The President must withdraw troops a few at a time just like in every other war. He deserves to be have the Nobel Peace Prize bestowed upon him for taking a giant step to get us out of a war. The President is doing what is necessary and he is not promoting Rambo style missions where more lives can be lost. There are sufficient soldiers based on our soil to help defend us. Take your Zanax - The President is not a miracle worker!
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