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CBS News/ August 21, 2012, 1:37 PM

Ryan jabs Obama over 2008 "guns and religion" comment

Republican vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan

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Updated 5:25 p.m. ET

(CBS News) CARNEGIE, Pa. - Vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on Tuesday mined another sound bite from the 2008 election to fire up crowds, adding to the list of controversial statements from the last race that Republicans have used to try to win votes in western Pennsylvania and eastern Ohio.

Speaking to more than 2,000 people at a steel company outside Pittsburgh, Ryan reminded people how President Obama described their behavior at a private fundraiser in San Francisco four years ago.

"Remember this other time where he was caught on video saying, 'People like to cling to their guns and their religion?'" Ryan asked. "Hey, I'm a Catholic deer hunter. I am happy to be clinging to my guns and my religion!" The crowd responded with enormous applause.

He was referring to remarks - on audio, not video -- that Obama made a private fundraiser in 2008 that were captured by a Huffington Post blogger. "It's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama said in reference to Midwesterners who had lost jobs several decades ago and never seen them return.

Ryan also criticized Obama's economic philosophy by invoking "Joe the Plumber," a man named Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher whom then-candidate Obama famously told in 2008 that spreading wealth around was good for everyone.

"It's this belief that the economy is some fixed pie, that there's only just so much money in America, it's fixed, and that the job of the government is to redistribute the slices of the pie," Ryan said of Obama's philosophy. "That's not true. The job of the government is to set the conditions for economic growth so we can grow the pie and everybody can get a bigger slice of the American pie through economic growth, through opportunity, through achievement, upward mobility. That's where prosperity comes from."

Romney similarly tried to evoke memories of the last election campaigning in Beallsville, Ohio, when he reminded voters in coal country that in 2007 then-Sen. Joe Biden, a candidate for president, said air pollution from coal was more likely to kill Americans than a terrorist attack.

Ryan, who has focused on foreign policy and healthcare in recent campaign events, returned to his economic comfort zone today by offering a defense of his ideas about how to encourage prosperity.

"There is no other system that has done more to help the poor, that has done more to rise people out of poverty and onto lives of self-sufficiency than the American system of freedom and free enterprise and there is no rival for it anywhere in the world. We are proud of that," he said.

But he also tried to warn voters about the health care law, that about half of the 38 percent of Pennsylvania seniors that had selected Medicare Advantage would lose their insurance within five years under the law. He said it represented about a $3,600 cut in benefits for current seniors, and that one in six hospitals and nursing homes would either go out of business or cease taking Medicare patients.

What Ryan didn't mention is that even if Medicare Advantage plans disappear in the coming years, seniors currently enrolled in those plans could get insurance through traditional Medicare. Democrats also have said Ryan's plan to offer vouchers for either traditional Medicare or private insurance will raise costs for seniors by thousands of dollars.

Speaking on the other side of the state later on Tuesday, Ryan told voters in West Chester, a Philadelphia suburb, that impending defense cuts could put as many as 44,000 jobs at stake in the state.

He said the defense cuts -- which were part of a deal brokered by members of Congress and the White House to raise the debt ceiling - were solely the responsibility of Obama. An Associated Press "fact check" in July after Romney made a similar claim said that Romney "ignores the central role that Congress played last summer in setting the stage for such a massive cut in the Pentagon's budget."

"When these budget negotiations went down the pike, the president insisted that these irresponsible defense cuts be a part of this package. Then he insisted if you want to undo them, we need a trillion-dollar tax increase on successful small businesses. So you either lose defense jobs in Pennsylvania or put small businesses further in a competitive disadvantage to compete in the global economy and lose small business jobs," Ryan said.

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infantryman1968 says:
Ryan jabs Obama over 2008 "guns and religion" comment


LOL!


Keep your powder dry Amercia. If Obama loses the election his followers are going to make us pay for it.
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WeHappyFew says:
No President or Congress would ever could ever take away your second amendment rights.

This hysteria is a massive piece of distraction theft while successive administrations take away your freedom by the back door. Gun bans in the US are a physical and practical impossibility and the point in which it could possibly be enforced it would be military force full scale civil war which any government could try at any time, Amendment or no.

It would be useful for the uneducated loudmouth rednecks to see that it very easy to get ones hands on weaponry and ammunition, legally or otherwise. At the same time US governments have been taking great strides into your privacy with monitoring, tracking, information gathering, travel restrictions, searches dismissing your rights to peaceable protest and blacklisting you if you do, all the while closing down government transparency and accountability. All in the name of Homeland Security.

Most right wing idiots don't realise if they don't become involved at the intellectually challenging end of societal emancipation like social equality, government accountability, or cyber-freedoms then once those in power have the country on lock down, having the technology and intelligence to take your guns becomes routine.
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Scimajor says:
"Hey, I'm a Catholic deer hunter. I am happy to be clinging to my guns and my religion!"

Yes and you and the majority of voters cling so hard to religion that you would refuse to vote for a candidate who didn't share your religion. There are words for that ... intolerance and bigotry.

Hey "sportsman"! Cling to your gun and go kill a deer with your 303 that fires a bullet at supersonic speeds at distances where without a scope it's difficult to even make out the deer's eyes. It's very sporting of you.

Killing animals for fun is just so .... fun .... or is it just plain sadistic. I confuse those two words all the time.
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wfw3536 says:
Obama's comments of 2008, plus his comment that small business owners do not deserve credit for their hard work shows the Amercan people how out of touch this president is with most folks, except his hollywood friends.
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wfw3536 replies:
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Obama4all--------------Sad you probably never ran a business or even had some position of authority to understand how out of touch Obama's business comment is when they are the job creators in our country. You probably never spent 24/7 worrying about making a payroll or how you couldn't affort to pay yourself anything for the month because of this terrible Obama economy. But then you're limited argument is to call someone stupid. So typical of a liberal.
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TimeToEvolve says:
Earth to half brained Lyin' Ryan: Obama's point was that you and your party have no plans or ideas to help 99% of Americans and have no clue as to how to govern. So The Republicons have to keep going back to the same Gays, Guns, God and Groins to energize their base.
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jay1jay1 says:
Lyin Ryan trying his art of deflection.
Except he's still backwards, they're trying to win on the attacks from the McCain campaign.
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sandy 1027 says:
This election is about jobs, BUT also policies and which candidate is looking out for the best interests of the public on a broad range of big issues.Romney-Ryan have shown more of a concern for Wall St., and not Main St. on Medicare,taxes, education, veterans issues, just to name a few that affect just about everyone in this country .Ryan's smile and folksiness don't change the fact that he will make these same people pay higher income taxes , while he gives additional tax cuts to the wealthy; and eventually voucherizes,and cuts their Medicare benefits ( causing them to possibly pay as much as $500.00,more a month for care).They will eventually privatize their Social Security, gambling with their funds on a profligate, deregulated Wall St.They will cut education funding for their children, of all ages,and make it too expensive for those wanting to go to college to do so. Romney's out-of-touch,"Let them eat cake"answer to these struggling students ?:"Borrow it from your parents"-( who probably don't have it).Romney also said "Let Detroit go bankrupt"( but of course not Wall St.) ;and just for the record :Romney and Ryan are no friends of union rights.Similarly, his solution to the housing crisis ?:"Foreclose on the houses, and rent them out."Romney-Ryan's policies prove who is really on the side of the people of Pennsylvania ( and the majority of Americans), and who isn't; and it isn't Romney and Ryan.
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RollotheNorman says:
The RepubliCONs are caught in a 2008 timewarp. Ryan and party keep regurgitating the sameo-samoe attacks that RepubliCONs voiced over and over again in 2008. No doubt Obama as Muslim and Kenyian will recycle next. And Willard *Says* Obama doesn't want to talk about jobs and the economy. Oh, the irony.
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RollotheNorman replies:
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Hey, American, it is Ryan doing the talking here. Duh. Yeah we here that crap alla the time from Willard, but it's his campaign that refuses to talk about achievements and records.
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clydealan2 says:
Let's hear it one more time for trickle down economics.
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RollotheNorman replies:
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LOL. 70% of the economy is consumer buying, and Neanderthal flat-landers like Ryan don't believe in Keynesian economics.
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BFR50 says:
Yes Obama being a Marxist Communist indocrinted politician and Manchurian Candidate, he would say ant- American things that attack the 1st and 2nd Amedment.
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BFR50 replies:
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Typos
"anti" American and 2nd "Amendment"
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