Poll: Americans split on health care ruling

WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 28: Protestors stand outside the U.S. Supreme Court on June 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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(CBS News) A new poll reveals that Americans are evenly split on the Supreme Court's health care decision -- and that, unsurprisingly, opinions are closely tied to political party.

The USA Today/Gallup poll found that 46 percent of respondents agree with the court's ruling that the law is Constitutional, while 46 percent disagree. Seventy-nine percent of Democrats back the high court's decision, while only 13 percent of Republicans do. Independents are divided, with 45 percent agreeing with the court and 42 percent disagreeing.

The poll also provides some insight into how important the issue of health care could be in November. Four out of five surveyed say health care will impact their vote, but only 21 percent say it will be the only factor. Fifty-nine percent say it will be one of several issues taken into consideration.

Gallup found that among the 21 percent of respondents for whom the health care law is the only factor, respondents are nearly twice as likely to disagree with the court's decision than agree with it, 59 percent to 36 percent.

Only 13 percent of respondents said they wanted the entire law to remain on the books as it was written. Twenty-one percent wanted parts of the law repealed. A quarter wanted the government's role in health care expanded beyond the health care law, and nearly a third wanted the entire law repealed.

The poll also found that 64 percent of Americans believe politics played a major role in the decision -- including 80 percent of Republicans. The finding comes despite conservative Chief Justice John Roberts siding with the four liberal justices to rule that the health care mandate is constitutional.

[zeforino]

Assyria equally divided? The protestants & Catholics in Ireland were once equally "divided".

Part of the problem is the "disinformation" ( CIA term ) all over the Media. The Republicans are "better at disinformation"...e.g.: taking the positive term "affordable health care", and replacing it with a negative term : "obamacare"...designed to feed the racist fears which not at all dead in America.

Note carefully the intense hostility towards Mexican Americans,by Republicans, and the G&L population...and how the very term "liberal" has become associated with socialism/communism"..the conservatives "just knew this would happen, as soon as a negro was made president"...they are livid with fearmongering.( vis Limbaugh and Beck )

This "disinformation" was practiced by conservatives when FDR was pushing Social Security through,... and other programs to pull us out of the last Depression. Republicans then fought it viciously then as they are today...with exactly the same tactics.

This time around, hundreds of billions of $$ are spent on this disinformation campaign...a tsunami of lies and half truths.

C.S.Lewis called the half truth the most destructive force on earth.

Because the Media has to report a "balanced view", they , in fact, legitimize False Witness ~ by causing Lying to appear on equal footing with Truth!

What Truth?...the truth that facists voted in a radical party known as the Tea Party, and gave us "Gridlock", which in turn, deepened and prolonged the loss of jobs, homes, businesses, which went out as a wave of depression around the world...thanks, facists.

If I were you, I would pray fervently that the 100,000 gang members in Chicago, and those in L.A. and every other large city...won't turn their guns on you! Of course, you can call 911 , can't you?

Good luck with that mein kampf

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DJ_34_14 June 30, 2012 5:34 PM EDT
"They DO have replacements in mind. Your problem is you don't want to listen. I find it hilarious how you can sit there and say the Health Care issue is on party lines. You obviously don't get out much"



Seriously, making an outright ignorant post like that is ludicrous!


Republicans Drop Talk Of Health Care 'Replace' -- For Now

"I got a call from Speaker Boehner last Friday," said Rush Limbaugh on his radio show Wednesday. "He called a lot of people and he was telling us what the Republican plan is. And it was repeal, repeal, repeal. Regardless of what happens. He made it clear that repeal -- and not repeal and replace, but repeal -- was going to be the focal point for the House Republicans."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/republicans-drop-pretense-of-health-care-replace.php

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DJ_34_14 June 30, 2012 5:34 PM EDT
"They DO have replacements in mind. Your problem is you don't want to listen."



Actually, I listen very well, and I agree with 'occupy_cbs,' since the old GOP line of "repeal and replace" has been replaced with just "repeal" in their most rabid screeching!


Affordable Care Act: The GOP said "Repeal & Replace!" -- Where's the "replace"???

The Republican Party was sweep into control of the U.S. House of Representatives in the 2010, and large part of their campaign was their vow to "repeal and replace" what they call "Obamacare", the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Now that the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the law, they seem to have completely forgotten the "replace" part and are hellbent only on repealing the law. GOP Presidential candidate Mitt Romney vows to repeal "Obamacare" on his first day in office as President. Never mind that Presidents don't get to repeal laws, only Congress can do that. House Speaker John Boehner says "Today's ruling underscores the urgency of repealing today's harmful law in its entirety". He has scheduled another meaningless vote to repeal the law on July 11.

Let's take a look at what the Republicans want to repeal if you vote them into power this November:

Read more about the Benefits in Effect Now:

http://tucsoncitizen.com/baja-democrats/2012/06/30/affordable-care-act-the-gop-said-repeal-replace-wheres-the-replace/

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Poll: Americans split on health care ruling

A new poll reveals that Americans are evenly split on the Supreme Court's health care decision -- and that, unsurprisingly, opinions are closely tied to political party.

Seventy-nine percent of Democrats back the high court's decision, while only 13 percent of Republicans do.



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DJ_34_14 June 30, 2012 5:34 PM EDT
"They DO have replacements in mind. Your problem is you don't want to listen. I find it hilarious how you can sit there and say the Health Care issue is on party lines. You obviously don't get out much"
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Obviously, you either failed to READ the above article or have a huge reading comprehension problem coupled with bad news sources!

Your attacks on occupy_cbs to make an invalid point are simply past ludicrous, since the republicans have NO REPLACEMENT at all for health care reform, and to deny that this issue is not partisan with the rabid screeching of the GOP leaders since 2009, is beyond belief.

Obviously, you just want to be a good little republican patsy and support your party's partisan attacks on any kind of HC reform, but go ahead, leave the attacks behind and post a link to GOP HC reform.

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Smokey_75 June 29, 2012 7:19 PM EDT
"So what facts do you have?"



Obviously the ones that have completely debunked your LIES and DECEPTIONS from the right-wing propagandists:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/

[marychgo]

Buried toward the end of the story is a key fact almost always ignored in discussing the Affordable Care Act: "A quarter wanted the government's role in health care expanded beyond the health care law," in other words, folks so committed to single-payer, "Medicare-for-all" coverage that they'd rather have NO health insurance reform if they have to pay ANYTHING to a health insurer.

Folks like Smokey and Barry-been-inhalin -- and Romney and Boehner and Cantor and friends -- assume that the 46% who oppose ACA agree with THEM that it isn't needed. I suspect that they'll be surprised to realize that at least ten or twelve and perhaps as much as 25 percent of their fellow "opponents" think "Obamacare" doesn't do ENOUGH, NOT that it does too much!

[sjc_1]

That was my point earlier, the GOP wants you to think the data is on their side when it is skewed by the way they took the survey. If you ask, "do you like the ACA" half will say no and half of those want Single Payer or at least a Public Option. Well that is all it takes, the GOP is out distorting the truth to their advantage and not being held accountable for those distortions.

[sjc_1]

I don't think that half the people that oppose it even know what is in it. They were told it is a big government take over and they will not have choice of doctors and so on. No one bothers to check to see if they are being lied to and once they find out they never hold the lying GOP responsible. If you want better government, start by holding the politicians accountable for what they say, just replay the recordings and confront them with it.

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I agree with you sjc, since none of those so rabidly opposed to the PPACA even know that there are several republican ideas that made it into the law in order to garner republican votes. Seems that the more Americans learn what is in the PPACA, they seem to like the individual components such as no lifetime caps, no dropping of customers when they become sick, and no bias against preexisting conditions -- all methods that the for-profit insurance industry used against customers to increase their profits.

While the PPACA is far from perfect, and needed a public option to keep the for-profit insurance industry honest, it could stand some tweaking just like Medicare and Social Security. I still believe we really need SP-UHC like Vermont and Montana have been working on, if we have any hope of restraining costs in our broken system.

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occupy_cbs June 30, 2012 11:03 AM EDT
"Sorry speaker boehner, but you're absolutely wrong in saying that 'repeal' is what the American people want. Truly, only HALF -- and that is a totally republican HALF of America -- wants to repeal parts of this PPACA, so you don't represent or speak for the majority of Americans with your partisan political rhetoric!"




I agree occupy, Speaker Boehner and the republicans do not speak for me either, nor a full half of the American people.

This GOP agenda of "repeal" without anything to replace our health care mess with, only means they represent half of America at best, and probably not even that much today!

[occupy_cbs]

"The USA Today/Gallup poll found that 46 percent of respondents agree with the court's ruling that the law is Constitutional, while 46 percent disagree. Independents are divided, with 45 percent agreeing with the court and 42 percent disagreeing."



In his Majority opinion, Chief Justice Roberts clearly defined the mandate as "personal responsibility" -- something all conservatives give us as LIP SERVICE, while attacking Roberts for not following his partisan fellow conservatives down the political divide.

Funny how a majority of Americans like the individual components of the PPACA, yet this law has divided America into two partisan camps so polarized that it seems they will never come together again, which only means that the political rhetoric and propaganda from the usual suspects includes more LIES and DECEPTIONS than any TRUTHS!

[occupy_cbs]

What bothers me about the rabid right-wingers like speaker boehner, is first they were using the "repeal and replace" political rhetoric, and now the "replace" part of their agenda has been thoroughly trashed -- mainly because they have no health care reform replacement, and just wish to keep the HC debacle in place.

Sorry speaker boehner, but you're absolutely wrong in saying that "repeal" is what the American people want. Truly, only HALF -- and that is a totally republican HALF of America -- wants to repeal parts of this PPACA, so you don't represent or speak for the majority of Americans with your partisan political rhetoric!

We truly need health care reform, and if boehner and the republicans cannot give us their "replacement" for the PPACA, I suggest that our congress works to make the current law, deemed constitutional by the SCOTUS, better for the American people.

[sjc_1]

The Republican half wants to keep all the benefits but get rid of the methods to pay for it, then they say that there is no free lunch and people should pay their way. I have never been able to understand how those people can be SO blind while they lie to themselves, it boggles the mind.

[Kestrel88]

Most people have no clue what's in the law, as the media sadly focused coverage on the process as opposed to provisions when the legislation was being debated.

Polls do show that Americans overwhelmingly support the individual provisions:

-Covering young adults on parents' insurance through age 26
-No denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions
-No lifetime caps
-Establishment of exchanges to make insurance affordable
-Requirement that insurers spend at least 80 percent of premium dollars on healthcare delivery
-Ability to choose plans and doctors

Support for the individual mandate is split, but if most people realized that we all spend an average of $1,000 more a year to cover the cost of uninsured "free riders" who show up in emergency rooms for medical care they can't pay for (talk about a tax!), they'd rethink it.

Interestingly, the individual mandate was a conservative idea that came about when the Republican party wasn't completely off the rails and actually capable of policymaking.