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CBS News/ March 28, 2012, 3:46 PM

Will the Supreme Court strike down the most popular part of the health care law?

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Supporters of health care reform rally in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, Wednesday, March 28, 2012, on the final day of arguments regarding the health care law signed by President Barack Obama.

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(CBS News) After Tuesday's Supreme Court hearings, it looks like the high court could very well strike down one of the least popular and most controversial aspects of President Obama's 2010 health care overhaul -- the requirement for nearly all Americans to purchase health insurance.

On Wednesday morning, the court considered whether striking down the so-called individual mandate would require striking down the entirety of the law -- or at least other parts of it. If the court were to rule that the mandate is unconstitutional, it's possible some of the most popular aspects of the law would go down with it.

A CBS News/ New York Times poll released this week shows that three in 10 Americans want the court to strike down the mandate but to keep the rest of the law. Those people may not be happy to hear that even the Obama administration argued today that if the mandate goes, two other significant parts should go, too -- the rule barring insurance companies from discriminating against those with pre-existing conditions, and the rule barring insurers from charging more because of a person's medical history.

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The rule barring insurers from discriminating against customers with pre-existing conditions (known to policy wonks as "guaranteed issue") is overwhelmingly popular, even among those who oppose the overall law. The CBS News/ NYT poll shows that 85 percent of Americans support the rule, including 76 percent of Republicans.

Still, the administration argues in its brief to the court that the "guaranteed issue" rule, as well as the rule banning insurers from charging customers differently, are critically tied to the mandate.

"Enacted in isolation [those rules] create a spiral of higher costs and reduced coverage because individuals can wait to enroll until they are sick," the brief says. "As Congress found, the minimum coverage provision is thus necessary to achieve Congress's concededly valid objective of reforming the interstate market in health insurance."

It's important to note the court doesn't have to listen to the administration. And indeed, the conservative justices on Wednesday seemed inclined to throw out the whole bill, rather than parse out so-called "good" provisions from "bad" ones, as Justice Antonin Scalia put it.

"My approach would say if you take the heart out of the statute, the statute's gone," Scalia said. "That enables Congress to -- to do what it wants in the usual fashion. And it doesn't inject us into the process of saying, 'this is good, this is bad, this is good, this is bad.'"

The more liberal justices, however, appeared ready to keep at least portions of the bill.

"There are so many things in this Act that are unquestionably okay," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said. "It's a choice between a wrecking operation... or a salvage job. And the more conservative approach would be salvage rather than throwing out everything."

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While Scalia called the individual mandate the "heart" of the 2010 law, attorney H. Bartow Farr argued that the provisions barring discrimination or price variation based on medical history are the "crown jewels" of the law. Appointed by the court to argue in favor of keeping those two provisions, he pointed out there are other elements of the bill to prevent costs from spiraling out of control without a mandate.

It's up for debate whether the individual mandate is really needed to prevent a "spiral of higher costs," but that's not the primary issue at hand: Rather, the question before the court is what Congress intended.

"The court standard for severability is, 'Would Congress have passed the [health care law] without the mandate?" Robert Alt, a senior legal fellow for the conservative Heritage Foundation, told Hotsheet. "Does [the law] operate in the manner consistent with Congress' intent [without it]?"

Deputy Solicitor General Edwin Kneedler argued that clearly there are parts of the law that can work without the mandate -- including provisions already in place, like the rule allowing children up to 26 years old to stay on their parents' health insurance plans.

Arguing for the other side, attorney Paul Clement said, "You can't possibly think that Congress would have passed that hollow shell without the heart of the Act."

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mary-miami says:
It is unbelievable that there are people that don't care about fellow human beings that have no access to healthcare. The United States has always been a "nation" and nation means caring about your fellow citizens. GOP is selfish, greedy and only cares about making millionaires richer and turning the working class into slave labor. GOP hates anything that brings relief to workers because the rightwing wants to create a two class system of rich and poor; that's why they hate worker rights, equal rights, women rights, environmental protection, living wages...GOP is now determined to crush Medicare and Social Security which is the only thing that protects our working class elderly and lets them live their last years in dignity. GOP rightwing represent the interests of millionaires who think they are better that the rest of Americans. The only party that defends and respects equal opportunity for all is the Democrats. I will vote to re-elect President Obama.
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Zann-Zel says:
What it comes down to is this Mortar.
Right now the average person can work every day of their life and be a totally responsible citizen.
But STILL be unable to pay once ONE disaster hits their family.
Most of us don't have more hundreds of thousands of dollars just lying around.
The Insurance Companies are in control of our health decisions - and that's wrong - we and our doctors should have that control.

If you can show me a way to get rid of ALL insurance companies and bring health care back in reach of the average working American - I'll say you might have a better idea.
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RealWorldNow replies:
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You can start by getting rid of frivolous laws suits with ridiculous awards. Like 5 million for someone getting a hot cup of coffee spilled in their lap. That drives the cost up, oh, wait that's connected to malpractice insurance.... so the circle goes !
Zann-Zel replies:
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A doctor doesn't serve hot coffee....so that case was not malpractice.
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stormerF69 says:
If they kill the mandate there is no funding for the Obamacare plan and it is already scored at being almost double of what the Democrats said it would cost.Now they are at 1.6 trillion and that may double. Anyway how are they going to get the illegals to pay for their health insurance?Fine the Americans but allow illegals to use the system for free?
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Zann-Zel replies:
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When people show up in the ER with no insurance - that could be a way to show who the Illegals are.
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Zann-Zel says:
We have had this discussion a thousand times Zann. I dont know why you keep coming back to it.
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LOL! Why do YOU keep coming back to it? ; )

Mortar. You claim to be all for babies when we're discussing things like Abortion.
But what about when there's a baby born with a pre-existing condition? And the insurance company won't cover it. And the parents don't have the money......then what???
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Zann-Zel replies:
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Some of those babies won't be helped by charity.
They'll die - because the hospital wouldn't treat them, because they didn't have MONEY.

As if the life of a child of a rich man is more important that the life of the child of a poor man.
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Zann-Zel says:
Sorry Mortar - It IS personal.

I understand if you (and those on your side) do not think this is the best way to solve the problem.

I just wish they'd drop the accusations that we want something for nothing. That we want others to pay our way.

That's not what we after here.
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Zann-Zel replies:
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This is only asking you to pay your own insurance Mortar.
Not anyone elses.
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Zann-Zel says:
by Mortar1SG_29 March 29, 2012 12:45 PM EDT
Again, Zann....what right do you have to force someone else to work for you and give you the fruits of their labor to pay for your medical procedure (I am not saying you need a medical procedure or cant pay for it...I am being rhetorical)?
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Very.
By now you know I PAY for my insurance! I pay for my healthcare! I have HAD to since I was 20, I couldn't afford to go without insurance ever! I've had to think twice about changing jobs because if I do I'll have to wait a year to be covered for a pre-existing condition. I've had to pay for the meds in Full out of my pocket for the entire year.

You try every time to switch it around like I want someone to pay for me!
WRONG!
I want others to pay their way!
I want everyone to get insurance so I'm not paying for them when I have to go to the hopspital.
I don't suppose you'll ever acknowledge that point!!!
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Zann-Zel replies:
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Mortar........does it not bother you a bit when you have to pay $5 for a bandaid?
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Zann-Zel says:
Liberty is a good thing Mortar.

But so is Life...Health - without them, Liberty isn't worth much is it? I mean when you're Dead...you really couldn't care less who won the political battles of America.
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Zann-Zel replies:
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A nice inspiring sound bite of the past. But sorry I guess I'm more Human than I am your definition of "American".
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Zann-Zel says:
Mortar1SG_29 March 29, 2012 11:46 AM EDT
I know you are.

But the end result wont be what you wanted, Zann. That is guaranteed!
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We'll see.
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Zann-Zel says:
If they strike this law down.......Obama and the Democrats are going to get re-elected in a Landslide! All the angry people who get kicked off of insurance because of our pre-existing conditions......

And what's next after he gets re-elected and they've struck down the healthcare law? SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA 2012 : )
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Zann-Zel replies:
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Right there with you Mortar!

So do I!!!

OBAMA 2012
Zann-Zel replies:
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You're right......I don't want Civil War.
BUT when the neighbors in America start looking at each other, One family wondering why in Hell another family would vote to take the healthcare that their "pre-existant condition child" needs away from them.......the battle lines will sadly be drawn.

Its okay though. Its about time this country decided whether it was for Life or Death. Health or War.
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nancy_naive says:
They're not going to "kill" any of it. You're about to see a 6-3 decision upholding the entire law.

The merits of the law speak for themselves, and don't for one minute think that the ONLY thing the SCOTUS takes into consideration is what the lawyers argue before them.

The 1-hour verbal arguments is the theatre surrounding the cases that make it before the judges, it's the chance for history to record the words of our country's greatest orators... or not so great.
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