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CBS News/ February 16, 2012, 12:35 PM

Dems decry all-male House panel on WH contraception rule

Panelists from the first half of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing: "Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion & Freedom of Conscience."

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Updated: 2:03 p.m. ET

As the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee began a hearing Thursday morning on the Obama administration's rule mandating free contraceptive care for employees at religiously-affiliated institutions, New York Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney had a question for the panel: "Where are the women?" she asked.

"I look at this panel, and I don't one single individual representing the tens of millions of women across the country who want and need insurance coverage for basic preventive health care services, including family planning," Maloney said. "Where are the women?"

The hearing, entitled "Lines crossed: Separation of church and state. Has the Obama administration trampled on freedom of religion and freedom of conscience?" aimed to address the White House's ruling on contraception, and whether or not that rule infringes on religious liberty.

The first panel was comprised of five men: the Most Reverend William Lori, the Reverend Dr. Matthew Harrison, moral philosophy professor C. Benn Mitchell, Rabbi Meir Soloveichik, and ethics professor Craig Mitchell. The second panel did include two women.

The panelists, all of whom opposed the White House rule, largely framed the their objections in terms of religious freedom.

"Religious people determine what violates their consciences -- not the federal government," said Rev. Harrison. "Please get the federal government, Mr. Chairman, out of our consciences."

In his opening remarks, Rep. Elijah Cummings, the panel's top Democrat, argued committee chair Darrell Issa had "stacked" the panel with people who reflected only the Republican perspective, and accused the committee of perpetrating a "massive injustice" by failing to include women in the discussion.

Democrats on the committee charged that Issa "personally rejected" testimony from Sandra Fluke, a woman who had hoped to tell the story of her friend, who she says lost an ovary due to a lack of contraceptive coverage.

"Your staff told us you personally rejected Ms. Fluke's testimony, saying that, quote, 'the hearing is not about reproductive rights and contraception,'" Maloney said to Issa in her opening remarks during the hearing.

"Of course this hearing is about rights -- contraception and birth control," she said. "It's about the fact that women want to have access to basic health services family planning through their health insurance plan."

Democrats on the committee also lambasted Issa for failing to include on the panel any of the religious leaders and institutions who have expressed their approval for the Obama administration's decision.

Washington D.C. Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton walked out of the hearing due to its lack of balance, telling MSNBC it was "one-sided" and a "total romp." Maloney also left the meeting at one point to attend to another obligation, but later returned and continued to participate in the discussion.

Issa said during the hearing that he had not allowed Fluke to speak because she was not "appropriate and qualified." He said, too, that if Democrats had been more prompt about their witness requests he would have allowed them to present a religious representative supportive of the White House's decision.

A spokeswoman for the committee questioned the merit of Democrats' complaints, pointing out that the second half of the hearing included two women.

"The minority is either ill informed or arrogantly dismissive of women who don't share their views," Becca Watkins told Hotsheet in an e-mail. "Today's hearing does in fact include two women, Dr. Allison Garrett of Oklahoma Christian University and Dr. Laura Champion of Calvin College Health Services."

Nevertheless, a number of those who objected to the hearing seized on the lack of women on a panel ostensibly discussing contraception.

Maloney, along with Planned Parenthood, posted a picture of the all-male panel on Twitter.

"This is what @GOPoversight's idea of expert witnesses on #birthcontrol looks like," Maloney captioned the photo, using "wherearethewomen" as a hashtag for the Tweet.

Planned Parenthood released a statement accusing leading House Republicans as being "out of touch" on women's health.

"Where are the women? How can Congress hold a hearing about birth control and not let any women speak?" said Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards, in the statement.

Fluke, a student at Georgetown Law School, told CBS News that the lack of access to contraceptive care at the school was a major concern among women there, and that she had met several women who had personally been affected.

"I think it's touched every woman at Georgetown," she said. "It's something that we really struggle with in our daily lives."

Toward the end of the first panel, Rabbi Soloveichik denied that he and his fellow panelists had come to advance a partisan message. 

"The notion that we're here to push a political agenda could not be more untrue," he said. "We all as Americans care about liberty and equality as the two great pillars of what America is all about."

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Freedom205 says:
The Democratic Congress woman said that this issues is crucial for woman "for basic preventive health care services, including family planning" . . . .this is political speak for WE WANT FREE BIRTH CONTROL! You can already get free birth control without making me pay for it through insurance premiums - 1) dont have sex; 2) Planned Parenthood gives out free condoms! Problem solved, next....
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marilyn4886 says:
I feel like we are back 40 years where the white men ruled and no one ever go a say, it makes me sick that these white people say keep government out of our private lives and then try to make decisions on what we do with our bodies, shame on these power grabbing fools.
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maemiller2 replies:
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As a woman, I am embarrassed by the ignorance of these women who are trying to twist this into 'questioning womens' right to contraception". Women are free to use contraception, and have been for a very long time. That is not the issue.

Anytime the government tells anyone they have to go against their religious beliefs, the government is infringing on the freedom of religion. THAT is the issue.
Freedom205 replies:
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Uhhhhh.....marilyn4886. Did you even look at the picture of who is on the committee?? Look to the man at the right in the picture. HE'S BLACK!! You are a racist!
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Zann-Zel says:
Ben37221 February 17, 2012 1:02 PM EST
Smokey75, to you republicans, logic is an invisible man. One cannot help but question your ability to understand any rational thought. The insurance company will be more than happy to pay for contraceptives rather than pay for the much more costly amount of having a baby.
I don't see the republicans crying over the personhood law being forced through right now in Virginia. Where does the republicans get off thinking it is their right to mandate a woman to undergo an exam that requires ladies to be penetrated as part of the examination-I am not kidding guys. check it out for yourselves. This is what is going on right now in Virginia. Republicans want to take this country back centuries. Your freedom does not give you the right to infrenge on the rights of women and others in the country.
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And in Oklahoma! The red states are gonna go down like dominioes if this isn't stopped! The women in these states need to stand up for their rights!
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dgannaway replies:
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Zann-Zel, your comment has nothing to do with what this is about. And it has nothing to do with contraception. So 98% of Catholic women use birth control eh? Well, that means despite the fact that if they work for a religious employer, they have managed to find a way to get contraception. So your inference that they would be denied access is BS. They already have access NOW. What you want is for them to get it for free at the taxpayer's expense. Which, by the way, if they are low income they can get at Planned Parenthood, no problemo. NO, this is about the government telling a religious institution that is has to violate it's conscience and OFFER the coverage, regardless of whether they have to pay for it. The ISSUE is that they do not want to OFFER it, dopey. Now WHO here is incapable of logic?
Women have had plenty of access to contraception up to this date, they DO NOT need this too. This is ALL about the government getting their nose in religous institutions so they can later force them to do other things against their doctrine. It's all about destroying religion in this country. It is NOT a RIGHT to have free birth control. Sorry, folks that is NOT a "right". Government does not give rights. We have certain ones we are born with and that's it. The rest are NOT RIGHTS, so quit calling them such.
OkLawyer replies:
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Zann, I currently reside in the wonderful world of make believe that we like to call Oklahoma. The women here stand up for their rights? You've got to be kidding. They're the meanest of the mean in this argument. Take our illustrious Governor Mary Fallin for instance. Her sanctimony knows no bounds. Nevermind the three or so highway patrolment who were either reassigned or outright fired due to her adulterous activities with them.You expect a hypocrite of that magnitude to stand up against other self-righteous evangelical, fundamentalist, charismatic nutjobs who voted her into the Governor's Mansion? Not likely.
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Ben37221 says:
If asking religious affiliated businesses to cover contraceptives for women is an attack on religion as you republicans claim, then you republicans have been part of this so call attack. Ask Huckebee-as governor of Arkansas, he signed the same requirement into law, thus requiring religious affiliated businesses to provide contraceptives. As governor of MA, Romney oversaw a similar law. So did the US congress under republican control during the Bush administration for federal workers.
The only attack going on here is an attck on the uneducated, and shallow minded base of the republican party, that is incapable of putting together any rational thought for themselves. These were the same people that the republicans lied to about the dealth panel. Every rational, and common sense thinking human being said to themselves at the time-no one is going to believe this dealth panel nonsense. The result of the 2010 election tells us how stupid and easily deceived the republican base is.
I would argue that these incidents tell us more about the moral compass of the republican establishment than it says about the not too smart republican base-how far republican establishment are willing to go to manipulate these very vernorable sigment of the population(republican base) to vote against their own interest.
The republican party talk morality, yet they are the most morally bankrupt people in the country. The party that like to talk about the constitution, yet quick to take the right of others away. Women are not stool for you to put your feet on. This is 2012.
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Freedom205 replies:
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Wow! You pulled all the Lefty arguments out of the old standard talking point bag I see (except saying your opposition is racist). You will never get to debate the issues when you resort to name calling, insults, and claiming that you must obviously be more intellegent than your opponents because your belief systm is "rational" to you. 69% of America (yes, liberals are thankfully out numbered) think they are the rational ones compared to your ideology. Way to tick of the "69." We should march on the Whitehouse, hold signs reading , "we are the 69" and demand that the President make you issue an apology to us for your insulting, mean, insensitive, demeaning and disturbing comments. But, alas, Democrats dont hold themselves to the same standards as the "69" because you are just SOOOO much smarter than us.
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nancy_naive says:
Catholic clergy will preach the "unnatural" state of homosexuals while struggling unnaturally to avoid sex. Ol' Father Patrick chokes the chicken, flogs the dog, and is wracked with guilt. When finally, he cannot stand it any longer... BEHOLD an altarboy.
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benunhappy says:
I agreed with OBAMA and stand firm in my RESOLVE that Equality is what our CONSTITUTION stands for...LIBERTY FOR ALL!!!NOT to be degraded by ANY religous faction; WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES must PROTECT OURSELVES because these factions will try to RULE your conscience.Let No Man political nor religous tell you what is good for your health for they have not you in thier best intrest.
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JR219 replies:
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Please explain how the church is telling me what's in my best interest? I'm not Catholic. Explain how their perspective harms me myself? Answer is it doesn't. And since you have tunnel vision please keep in mind. Anyone working for say a Catholic hospital KNOWS WHO THEY WORK FOR. If they disagree with their employer then they are free to find a new one. You have no evidence to prove that the church's opinion restricts people.
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JR219 I guess you live in a fantasy land where people can just quit jobs and immediately find a new one?

That is just plain ignorant.

Also -- when the Catholic Hospital hired the person, they accepted their work in return for a wage and benefit package... so you think the employer can just say "nevermind" and NOT be considered in breach of the contract?

This is about labor law, not religion. Period.
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Smokey75 says:
by Zann-Zel February 17, 2012 10:54 AM EST
Prevention costs less.
The Insurance companies picked up the cost - not the Catholic church - and gladly because like I said, Prevention costs less.
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Man are you naive! You really think the insurance company is just going to eat that added cost and not pass it right back to the church?

All I can say is liberals are truly too stupid to survive in business. Kind of explains why only about 1 in 100 ceo's claim to be liberal and not one run their business with liberal mentality.
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Zann-Zel replies:
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sigh. Listen and try really hard to follow along here......a pack of birth control pills, even 12 packs of birth control pills over a year costs WAY LESS than a birth. The insurance company isn't "eating" anything - they are saving money.
Same with the costs of a mamogram vs. late stage breast cancer treatment.
Zann-Zel replies:
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Lets just skip all tests, hey lets just not go to the doctor at all, when we die, we die. Its so simple : /
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occupy_cbs says:
Just 'think' how much cheaper contraceptives are than abortions or childbirth!

YOU and YOUR ILK have lost this edition of the GOP culture wars!

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Zann-Zel: "Prevention costs less."
The Insurance companies picked up the cost - not the Catholic church - and gladly because like I said, Prevention costs less.




Of course PREVENTION costs much less, but they will never understand!
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JR219 replies:
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So can "Men's health care" include procedures to kill women in their lives they don't like? It's unfathomable that we are in a day and age where "sane" people consider murder "health care"
Zann-Zel replies:
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Cancer screanings don't kill people.
Birth control pills don't kill people - they do Prevent People! But they don't kill them! Good Lord with that way of thinking you people will be trying to declare every EGG and every SPERM to be a 1/2 person - and they should at least be afforded 1/2 the rights of full persons! LOL! Careful though cuz once you go down that road every teenage boy would be a criminal!
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Smokey75 says:
It had nothing to do with women!!!!!!!!!

It was about religious freedoms! God liberals are to stupid to debate with.

No women's rights are violated if a church doesn't pay for contraceptive!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please explain to me how you think women's rights are violated if someone isn't forced to give them something for nothing?
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It isn't about cost's it isn't about abortions!

It is about having religious freedoms to say we don't believe in contraceptive so we should not be forced to pay for contraceptive.

Not a one of the church employers are saying a women can't work for them if they take contraceptive they are just saying they don't want to be forced to pay for it.

That is what freedoms are about!
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occupy_cbs replies:
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Arguing with you ultra-conservitards that refuse to understand this is just the latest edition of the republican culture wars, is silly, and I will not devote another second to your silliness!
Zann-Zel replies:
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Smokey you're way behind here. A deal was reached - the Catholic church will NOT be forced to pay for contraception. The insurance companies themselves will gladly pick up that cost, since it ultimately saves them money. Its been solved already, so why all the continued anger?
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