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CBS News/ December 21, 2011, 9:49 PM

Perry: I don't have problem with drug-testing welfare recipients

Republican presidential candidate Texas Gov. Rick Perry speaks to local residents during a campaign stop at The Button Factory restaurant, Dec. 21, 2011, in Muscatine, Iowa.

/ AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall

MT. PLEASANT, Iowa - Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday he wouldn't be opposed to welfare recipients also being drug tested, joining fellow candidate Newt Gingrich in suggesting that federal aid should be tied to substance use.

"I don't have a problem with before you get any dollars from the federal government that you're drug tested," Perry said in response to a man who suggested the idea in a question to him at a meet-and-greet in Mt. Pleasant, Iowa, that drew over 80 people. Perry pointed out that as a pilot in the Air Force, he himself had been drug tested. "I don't have a problem in the world with that," he said.

Gingrich made waves on the same subject when he told Yahoo News in late November one of the ways to curb drug use in part by making it more expensive. "It could be through testing before you get any kind of federal aid. Unemployment compensation, food stamps, you name it," he said.

The idea of requiring drug tests for people receiving federal assistance has been popular within Republican circles for some time and has come to head as an issue this year as three dozen states saw legislators attempt to tie substance use to benefits. The proposals have been met with controversy by civil liberties groups who say it violates the rights of those seeking assistance from the government.

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HenryMassingale says:
I kind of dis agree, it does not violate The Peoples Right for a fight for a Drug Free America.
What does violate The People's Rights is the death of so many because of Oxy Heroin. A FDA Federal byLaws Governed Drug.
2nd Debit Issue, between Canada and the USA, 1.2 million people died from Oxy Heroin.June 30, 2011, C-Span-3 on TV, the Capital Hill, Director Senator Sheldon, Senate Judiciary Sub Committee for Crime and Terrorism. Announcement Oxy. Heroin, this Heroin Health Care Concept, in 2007 that 27,000 Americans died, from this Opioid. So if this Oxy Heroin is so good for the economy, where is the money ?
Food Stamps for For Drugs, and the children go hungry.
Welcome to a new goal against the hands of Government Officials.
So Perry when was the Last time you had a Drug Test a matter of recorded des Government Officials take Drug Test....
I mean we very well can not have the President Of The United State with his hand on the button while on Oxy Heroin.
No silly not that button the Internet Button, boy I sure would miss my Internet.
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stiff-off bucky says:
YES!!!Definitely drug testing for any one getting benefits from tax $!!!Politicians and police tested FIRST!!!
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gmal4343 replies:
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read the 4th amendment of the constitution on illegal search and seizure.
gmal4343 replies:
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it has already been stopped by a federal judge in orlando.
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slatep says:
Individual states shoul not have to enact a law that those who receive Federal assistance be drug tested.

This should have been enacted as a law years ago; one passed by the Feds making it a law nation wide.
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sandy 1027 says:
One of the reasons that the governor of Florida is so unpopular is because he pushed for mandatory drug testing of welfare recipients.I read a newspaper article,( I think it was in "The Miami Herald") that said that in 7000 people tested , they found only 32 cases that were positive.That's about 1/2 of 1%( a little less ); and because the state agreed to reimburse those whose tests were negative, Florida was losing money.An earlier study had shown that welfare recipients , in fact, had tested positively less frequently than the general population.After seeing what has happened in Florida,I think the idea that there is rampant drug use by welfare recipients has been disproved.
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eteamer says:
Just more GOP trying to bring big government into every facet of our lives. And hey guess what, pot is leagle in some states. Talk about stomping on states rights. GOP=Big government
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dtschuck says:
We're together on this, Rick. I don't have a problem testing people that receive government benefits.....as long as that includes politicians and employees.
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starving1968-3 replies:
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Samlv says:
We don't need to test ALL of them -- just pass a law which makes random testing legal.

They'll get the message.

If you really wanted to take a bite, make exchanging food stamps for cash or mis-redeeming them for cigarettes a federal felony. That's how they get the cash for stuff like weed.
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fedup12 says:
Im not against it.

If they can afford drugs maybe they shouldnt be on welfare.

I agree though. It would be another bloated poorly managed government program. It would take more money to run than it saved.

Which amazes me Perry doesnt see that. Makes you wonder about him.
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dtschuck replies:
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economicterror, you are exactly right. The Right's largest fixation is always on the smallest problem, be it drug testing for the couple percent of users, which may be less than the population as a whole, or passing voter suppression laws to discourage illegal voting, which in 2008, accounted for a couple handful over the entire nation.

In the mean time, Wall Street runs wild, credit card companies are gouging our eyes out and Big Business is selling their soul, and our jobs, to China to make their numbers for next quarter---but not a peep about any of that.....just worried that someone may have smoked a joint or there were two people in Tennessee that voted illegally, though there were thousands of legal residents that were prohibited from voting because they got caught up in the very increaing web of requirements and secret handshakes...just so one can exercise their right to vote.

Shame, shame shame. Everything is about what makes them feel good, not do good.
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ModerateRep1 says:
There are only reasons for someone not wanting drug testing for welfare recipients:


- They are on welfare;

- They would not be able to pass the test.
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smirk5 replies:
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How about this? It'll probably cost more money testing people than it will save from denied payments. And, many people denied or afraid to apply will then steal to feed their families. That will increase the cost of law enforcement and housing additional convicts. It's bad policy and there's no real evidence that it saves society any money.
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We had this "LAW" in Florida for a while. It cost the state approx $1,000,000 to test the applicants, approx 3% failed, som it cost US 1 MILLION to catch approx 107 people!! OH HELL YES!!! LETS WASTE MOTE $$$$$$$$$ Instead, LETS TEST EVERY GOVT EMPLOYEE, and START WITH NEWT, PERRY, PALIN, SANTORUM, BIDEN, OBAMA, et al!!!!!!! FIRST ON MY LIST IS FL GOV RICK SCOTT!!!!!
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BogusPeavy says:
1000 times NO! NOT until ALL recipients of government money are tested OR none are. That would include YOU Mr. Perry and you Newtmiester. Anybody that gets money from the fed for ANY reason. And if they get more than $100,000/year, FULL financial disclosure.

Now we're getting somewhere - and it would be FAIR. How 'bout it??
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ModerateRep1 replies:
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I agree with that wholeheartedly. However, that does not disparage the fact that the people on welfare, particluarly second and third generation welfare, are a drain on the economy and nothing else. We can't sit around waiting for everyone else to jump on the wagon when we need to cut wasted spending NOW.

And YES, I believe the vast majority of politicians are a waste of tax dollars, too. But I'm a public sector employee (parole officer). I have to take drug tests randomly as do hundreds of thousands of public sector employees. I see families every day who, even with every welfare program in the system, who let their kids go without food, shelter, and clothing just because they're junkies or alcoholics. The food stamps, TANF, etc. are used to buy more drugs while the kids go ignored. This is not a RARE occurence either, but a wide spread epidemic stemming from giving people something for nothing.
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And don't forget the farmers, agri-business people, oil company execs, defense contractors, etc., etc., etc....
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