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CBS News/ November 13, 2011, 12:44 AM

Fact check: The CBS News/National Journal debate

Republician presidential hopefuls, from left to right, Jon Huntsman, Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum participate in the CBS News/National Journal Debate at Wofford College Nov. 12, 2011, in Spartanburg, S.C.

Republican presidential hopefuls, from left to right, Jon Huntsman, Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum participate in the CBS News/National Journal Debate at Wofford College Nov. 12, 2011, in Spartanburg, S.C.

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The post originally appeared on NationalJournal.com. It was written by Yochi J. Dreazen, Sara Sorcher and Kevin Baron

PERRY

Texas Gov. Rick Perry tried to bolster his credibility on military issues by describing himself as a "commander in chief" of sorts - specifically, the commander-in-chief of the Texas National Guard, one of the largest such forces in the nation. Perry is correct in saying that he, as governor, made key decisions about when to call out the Guard in the case of natural disasters in his home state. But Perry's suggestion that he had some say in where the troops were deployed overseas is false. Over the past 10 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Pentagon has had complete control over the National Guard units of every state in the country, including Texas. The decisions about where to send those troops, what types of missions they should undertake, and how long they should remain overseas remained entirely with the president. The view of governors like Perry were irrelevant to those decisions.

GINGRICH

Newt Gingrich incorrectly said President Obama "dumped" U.S. ally Hosni Mubarak "overnight" amid mass protests demanding the end of his 30-year rule. And he said it's ironic that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had received "amazingly soft treatment" as though the State Department was "afraid to make him feel bad." The Obama administration had initially refrained from calling publicly for Mubarak to step down, saying the decision was for the Egyptian people to make. Then Obama called on Assad to step down pointedly-- and the administration imposed a raft of sanctions meant to isolate Damascus from the U.S. financial system by freezing the Syrian government's assets under U.S. jurisdiction, banning U.S. imports of Syrian-origin petroleum and petroleum products, and banning Americans from engaging in any transaction involving the government of Syria.

More analysis from National Journal on the CBS/NJ debate:

Michael Hirsh: No one really measured up
Yochi Dreazen: GOP Candidates take aim at Obama, but also hit Bush
Ron Fournier: GOP Field Hard-line, Isolationist and Unclear
George Condon: Perry Takes a Page from The Gipper

BACHMANN

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann's statement that U.S. intelligence operatives have no place to detain captured terrorists is false. The Bush administration operated a network of secret prisons in Afghanistan and eastern Europe, but it began closing down the European facilities before handing power to President Obama. Under Obama's watch, the U.S. has maintained - and expanded - the size of its secretive prisons in Afghanistan; opened up new detention facilities on the island of Diego Garcia; and opened up new facilities in the African nation of Somalia. In addition, the Guantanamo Bay detention facility remains open, and terror suspects held there continue to be interrogated.

Bachmann also claimed President Obama has been more of a friend to Occupy Wall Street protesters than to Israel. This is a subjective, if not misleading statement. Obama has maintained U.S. aid to Israel, including military aid and sales, and at the United Nations in September said the bond was "unshakable." Obama and his national security leaders like Defense Secretaries Robert Gates and Leon Panetta have consistently lauded U.S. support for Israel, against the Iranian threat. What Republicans want is for the U.S. to take Israel's side in a much more robust way.

CAIN

In explaining his strategy for dealing with Iran, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said the U.S. should rid itself of dependence on Middle East oil. But the U.S. does not accept Iranian oil, due to its economic embargo. Iran is the world's fifth-largest oil producer. The U.S. has not enforced to the fullest extent possible existing laws that could punish foreign companies working with the Iranian oil industry.

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Post-debate analysis with CBS News political director John Dickerson


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invenoveritas says:
CBS NEWS SUCKS!!! After the brutal display of propaganda and favoritism in the national debate, I don't know if it's even worth watching anything on CBS. 89 seconds is what RON PAUL got!!! In over 90 minutes. Easily one of the top 3 frontrunners in the leadership race and he gets roughly 15% OF THE TIME AFFORDED THE OTHER CANDIDATES.

What more can be said...
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Paul_M_Price replies:
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What polls are you reading? Ron Paul among the Top 3? I believe
Romney, Cain, and Gingrich would differ with you.
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PrinceAlexiSB says:
Checking the Checker.

You implied that Mr. Cain thinks that the U.S. uses oil from Iran.

He simply stated that if the U.S. was energy independent, the price of oil would go down, and then Iran would have less money for their nuclear bomb agenda. He never said anything about not using oil from Iran anymore.

Your insinuation that Mr. Cain does not know his facts was wrong and unfair.

It would seem that CBS News needs a new fact checker.
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jimbom121 replies:
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In that case Mr Cain did not answer the question.
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PorkRoast says:
No fact checking needed for Dr. Paul.
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Freedom_Thinker says:
Fact check: The CBS debate was a scandalous farce. Sources: ABC News, Washington Times, The Hill, New York Times, et al.
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jeannettelj says:
The problem is- any republican will believe what ever these people say. They are not interested in facts, only what they want to hear!!
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OrangPuteh says:
It is telling that these wannabes are focused the debate on Iran, NOT AMERICA.

We have destroyed and rather badly rebuilt Iraq, at damnable expense, bombed and partially built Afghanistan. Now these warrior candidates lust to wage war on Iran.

If we took half the military budget and spent it on infrastructure, schools and scholarship, America would actually get something for its money and those things would pay dividends for hundreds of years.

The Military Industrial Mafia is robbing America of its future.

The Republican philosophy of government has failed catastrophically.
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jnstrawn says:
CBS's ability to fact check anything is a joke.
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gep1955 says:
If CBS did some fact checking on Obama you might be considered a reputable news outlet again. You counter what the candidates say with what Obama says but not with the actions he takes on these issues. Anything Obama says is 180* from what he does.
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dzaffina replies:
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you probably have to go to faux news to get a "reputable news outlet."
jimbom121 replies:
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Really? Like what?
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JI_Mora says:
There is no excuse for CBS News limiting Ron Paul to 89 seconds. This is shameful. CBS News has no credibility whatsoever.
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jimbom121 replies:
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Agreed...very poor format.
peterswi replies:
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That's the reason no one watches CBS any longer.
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ZerObamaLameDuckBarack says:
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Dr_Pangloss replies:
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Dude, get off those bad drugs!
Paul_M_Price replies:
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Hope you get into rehab quickly...
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