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Stephanie Condon /

CBS News/ October 28, 2009, 6:04 PM

Sen. Evan Bayh May Vote to Block Health Care Debate

Sen. Evan Bayh, a moderate Democrat from Indiana, said Wednesday that he may not be able to support a motion to proceed with the health care debate on the Senate floor, depending on what is included in the bill Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) brings forward.

Bayh told CBS News' Bob Schieffer on Washington Unplugged that he would not vote to proceed with the debate "if there are things in the bill I think are just beyond the pale."

"Some people argue that we should vote to go forward on a bill even if we don't like it," he said. "As we get further along in this, I view procedure and substance as being largely one and the same. I'd like to move forward, but some of that's going to depend on is it fiscally responsible."

Bayh said he didn't "think that's even worth starting a discussion on" provisions "that would explode the deficit... or would dramatically increase the premiums that ordinary families are paying."

When a bill is introduced on the Senate floor, any member may object to the "motion to proceed" with debate. In that case, it takes 60 votes of approval to proceed with the debate and consider amendments to the bill.

If there are provisions in the bill that are unacceptable, "I think your maximum leverage for getting them corrected is now," Bayh said. "It really is one of these things where I've just to look and see what's in there."

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Given his current knowledge of the bill, Bayh said, "There are a couple elements in the bill that might actually increase premiums that typical families are paying… that's just not a direction in which we should go."

Bayh said he has asked the Congressional Budget Office for an analysis of those elements.

Yesterday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), a member of the Democratic caucus, said he cannot support a bill that includes a government-run health insurance plan, or "public option." Bayh said today, however, that he is less focused on that issue.

Reid is going forward with a plan to include a public option from which states could opt out. Bayh said he would like to see more independence given to the states, but "I do think there's flexibility there now to allow states to consider their own specific circumstances."

In spite of the continuing controversy over the public option, Bayh said it was "highly likely legislation will be passed," and that if proponents of the public option are obstinate enough, they could pass it through the procedural loophole called "reconciliation."

"There are some pretty strong reasons not to go there... but if the people (who) want the public option in its fullest form are just adamant about that, they can always get that with 50 votes," he said.

Bayh told Schieffer that President Obama was wise to take a comprehensive approach to health care reform, rather than addressing issues on a piecemeal basis.

He added, "This is something we need to tackle, but we need to do it in a responsible way."

You can watch the interview above, along with a discussion with CSIS Senior Fellow Rick "Ozzie" Nelson about the deadly car bomb that struck a busy market in Peshawar, Pakistan, as well as coverage of some Capitol Hill hoops.

"Washington Unplugged" appears live on CBSNews.com each weekday at 12:30 p.m. ET. Click here to check out previous episodes.
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ReportWholeTruth says:
Wow ... totally amazing that this reporter totally failed to mention the fact that Senator Bayh's wife sits on the board of directors for some of the largest health care interests in the US and that his family has received over 2 million dollars since Senator Bayh was elected to office. Shouldn't this reporter mention this obvious conflict of interest? I am totally against the health care bill because it is un-Constitutional for the government to force citizens to pay for health care. Nowhere in the Constitution are they granted this permission. However, despite my belief on the health care debate ..... I find this article lacking in truth due to omission of facts. Senator Bayh could not possibly make an judgment that is free of conflict of interest on this issue. His family's income is tied to the industry and it is obvious he is in no place to make a major decision on this bill. If he was an honest politician he would abstain from voting.
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deke44 says:
Evan most certainly is not a Birch. In fact Birch must have failed as a father to bring up a son so uncaring for others and so greedy for himself. How much money have Evan and wife received from health industries? How many votes has Evan cast that helps the industry and hurts the public because his wife is employed by the health industry?
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kiwisuz says:
Humongous heath care bill? After trillions was spent on war? You selfish maggot of a human. You can't see the human suffering around you, because you live in egocentric
world. What goes around, egotistical one, comes around. You will be kicked when you are down.
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stuart-johns2 says:
Funny how CBS has this story saying this and yet on the Top News section they have the thread, "Dems Unite on Healthcare".

Great job CBS.
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stn_sage replies:
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The Bayh story was done on Wednesday, the 'Unite' story was done on Thursday, things change from day to day!

There are reasons why you leave a story on-site for more than just 24 hours before you pull it! Most stories should be left on-site for at least a couple of days to give a wider crowd a chance to read it!

I think your insinuated criticism is invalid...in this case.
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earlysaid says:
What idiots these democrats are who say they are conservative but are really republicans who care more about what the health care industry wants than about the American people having decent and affordable health care. This is NOT about the health care industry. This is for the American people having affordable health care, to end the out of control health care expenses and to help those who have no health care insurance abtain health care insurance. I am sick of people like Landrieu, Lieberman, Bayh, Snowe, Nelson and any of the others who side with the health care industry against what is best for America's people.
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stn_sage says:
I like the fact that these "moderate" Democrats and various U.S. Congressional politicians are coming out and voicing their disdain for and refusal to act on a health care bill for the public!

Yes! Because it's like turning a light on in the basement and 'watching all the cockroaches scurry across the floor'! They're exposing their TRUE
feelings! That, they don't give a 'tinker's d*a*m*n' about the public!

And, that's OK! Because, hopefully, come NOV 2010, some of them, both Dem and Rep incumbents, will get THEIR 'pink slips' from the public for the lousy jobs they DON'T do!
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stuart-johns2 says:
Oh please! This is political posturing at its best. Grandstanding! And Ferrell-2 and YankeeJoe don't see that.

Hey Ferrell-2, you know what's humongous? The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. I bet you and YankeeJoke voted for them though.
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Ferrell-2 says:
We can only hope and wish that other Democratic Congressmen have the sensible outlook as Evan Bayh on this humongous health bill.
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