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The White House in recent days has rolled out statements of support for health care reform from a handful of notable Republican leaders. They have come mostly from Republicans with waning influence and fading careers, but they have been recognizable GOP names nonetheless. But as Democrats continue to haul their reform proposals through Congress with virtually no congressional GOP support, do these statements matter to anyone?
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, former Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson (from the Bush administration) and former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist are some of the Republicans who have given recent statements of support for health care reform. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, formerly a Republican and now an independent, joined them.
Former Senate Majority Leaders Bob Dole, a Republican, and Tom Daschle, a Democrat, released a statement Wednesday reiterating their support for bipartisan health care reform. The two men, along with former Republican Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker, produced a bipartisan reform proposal in June.
But the remarks from these former GOP heavyweights have been filled with caveats as to what kind of reform they would like to see. Furthermore, they stand in stark contrast to statements from both Democratic and Republican Washington "outsiders" who have expressed serious reservations about health care reform.
That has not stopped the White House, though, from holding them up as a mark of President Obama's "bipartisan" approach. Culling "outside-the-beltway" Republican support served Mr. Obama well during his presidential campaign, and it could do the same in the health care debate.
"This is an effective tactic to influence general public opinoin, especially among persuadable independents," University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato told the Hotsheet.
That said, "it will have no discernible impact among Republicans in Congress," he added.
CBSNews.com Special Report: Health Care
White House officials asked Schwarzenegger and Bloomberg to put out their recent statements of support, the Los Angeles Times reports.
In his daily press briefing on Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Republicans in Washington are "wildly out of step with their constituents who want something to happen on health care this year."
"There are people that have been outside of the cocoon of Washington dealing with rising health care costs … that are actively encouraging the process that's working to take place," Gibbs said, referencing Bloomberg and Schwarzenegger.
Health Care Progress Report: October 5
A closer look at the comments from these Republican outsiders shows their opinions may not differ greatly from those of Republicans in Congress. Frist, for instance, told Time magazine he is in favor of stricter regulations on insurance companies to protect consumers as well as a mandate for all Americans to acquire health care. He said, however, that the legislation currently under consideration does not do enough to control costs. Republicans and Democrats in Congress have agreed there should be more consumer protections in the health insurance industry, while the individual mandate has not come down as a partisan issue, with support and opposition from both sides.
Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), pointed out to the Hotsheet that McConnell has given 42 speeches in support of health care reform on the Senate floor since June -- but that doesn't mean he is supporting the Democratic bills.
"There is strong bipartisan support for addressing health care," Stewart said. "Similarly, there is strong bipartisan opposition to what some Democrats have proposed."
Indeed, both some Democratic and Republican governors, for instance, are concerned about the additional Medicaid burden the Senate Finance Committee's bill could place on state governments.
"I can't think of a worse time for this bill to be coming," said Tennessee's Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen reportedly said.
Yet for all the influence governors and outside parties may try to wield, most congressmen -- with a few critical exceptions -- can be relied on to follow the party line on the issue, Sabato said.
"The die is cast. Republicans are not going to vote for health care reform," he said. "Obama wants to present health care as having bipartisan support for public relations purposes for the general electorate."
Even though the White House has not been able to influence Republican minds in Congress, the Obama administration is still trying to portray itself as bipartisan, with this outside support as well as through snatching up available Republicans for cabinet positions, Sabato said.
"They're trying to make the case Obama is running a bipartisan administration outside of Congress," he said.
The tactics may be having some impact. In a recent CBS/ New York Times poll, 60 percent of Americans said the president is trying to work with Republicans, while only 30 percent said the Republicans are trying to work with the president.
Support from the likes of Schwarzenegger and Bloomberg may also give cover to one key Republican -- Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) -- who may be the only GOP senator to ultimately vote for Mr. Obama's plan.
"The idea here is to at least send a message to Republicans that there are Republicans out there that are on the side of the White House, and to send a message to folks on the fence, specifically Olympia Snowe," CBS News Political Director Steve Chaggaris said.
It wouldn't make sense politically, however, for other Republicans to compromise, Sabato said.
"Their stratgety is focused on 2010," he said. "In order to produce a big base turnout, which is key to the midterm elections, they must strongly oppose the health care proposals, and it will probably work. If you want to de-energize the Republican base, just compromise with Obama."
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The White House in recent days has rolled out statements of support for health care reform from a handful of notable Republican leaders. They have come mostly from Republicans with waning influence and fading careers, but they have been recognizable GOP names nonetheless. But as Democrats continue to haul their reform proposals through Congress with virtually no congressional GOP support, do these statements matter to anyone?
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, former Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson (from the Bush administration) and former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist are some of the Republicans who have given recent statements of support for health care reform. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, formerly a Republican and now an independent, joined them.
Former Senate Majority Leaders Bob Dole, a Republican, and Tom Daschle, a Democrat, released a statement Wednesday reiterating their support for bipartisan health care reform. The two men, along with former Republican Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker, produced a bipartisan reform proposal in June.
But the remarks from these former GOP heavyweights have been filled with caveats as to what kind of reform they would like to see. Furthermore, they stand in stark contrast to statements from both Democratic and Republican Washington "outsiders" who have expressed serious reservations about health care reform.
That has not stopped the White House, though, from holding them up as a mark of President Obama's "bipartisan" approach. Culling "outside-the-beltway" Republican support served Mr. Obama well during his presidential campaign, and it could do the same in the health care debate.
"This is an effective tactic to influence general public opinoin, especially among persuadable independents," University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato told the Hotsheet.
That said, "it will have no discernible impact among Republicans in Congress," he added.
CBSNews.com Special Report: Health Care
White House officials asked Schwarzenegger and Bloomberg to put out their recent statements of support, the Los Angeles Times reports.
In his daily press briefing on Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Republicans in Washington are "wildly out of step with their constituents who want something to happen on health care this year."
"There are people that have been outside of the cocoon of Washington dealing with rising health care costs … that are actively encouraging the process that's working to take place," Gibbs said, referencing Bloomberg and Schwarzenegger.
Health Care Progress Report: October 5
A closer look at the comments from these Republican outsiders shows their opinions may not differ greatly from those of Republicans in Congress. Frist, for instance, told Time magazine he is in favor of stricter regulations on insurance companies to protect consumers as well as a mandate for all Americans to acquire health care. He said, however, that the legislation currently under consideration does not do enough to control costs. Republicans and Democrats in Congress have agreed there should be more consumer protections in the health insurance industry, while the individual mandate has not come down as a partisan issue, with support and opposition from both sides.
Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), pointed out to the Hotsheet that McConnell has given 42 speeches in support of health care reform on the Senate floor since June -- but that doesn't mean he is supporting the Democratic bills.
"There is strong bipartisan support for addressing health care," Stewart said. "Similarly, there is strong bipartisan opposition to what some Democrats have proposed."
Indeed, both some Democratic and Republican governors, for instance, are concerned about the additional Medicaid burden the Senate Finance Committee's bill could place on state governments.
"I can't think of a worse time for this bill to be coming," said Tennessee's Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen reportedly said.
Yet for all the influence governors and outside parties may try to wield, most congressmen -- with a few critical exceptions -- can be relied on to follow the party line on the issue, Sabato said.
"The die is cast. Republicans are not going to vote for health care reform," he said. "Obama wants to present health care as having bipartisan support for public relations purposes for the general electorate."
Even though the White House has not been able to influence Republican minds in Congress, the Obama administration is still trying to portray itself as bipartisan, with this outside support as well as through snatching up available Republicans for cabinet positions, Sabato said.
"They're trying to make the case Obama is running a bipartisan administration outside of Congress," he said.
The tactics may be having some impact. In a recent CBS/ New York Times poll, 60 percent of Americans said the president is trying to work with Republicans, while only 30 percent said the Republicans are trying to work with the president.
Support from the likes of Schwarzenegger and Bloomberg may also give cover to one key Republican -- Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) -- who may be the only GOP senator to ultimately vote for Mr. Obama's plan.
"The idea here is to at least send a message to Republicans that there are Republicans out there that are on the side of the White House, and to send a message to folks on the fence, specifically Olympia Snowe," CBS News Political Director Steve Chaggaris said.
It wouldn't make sense politically, however, for other Republicans to compromise, Sabato said.
"Their stratgety is focused on 2010," he said. "In order to produce a big base turnout, which is key to the midterm elections, they must strongly oppose the health care proposals, and it will probably work. If you want to de-energize the Republican base, just compromise with Obama."
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Perhaps the problem is the gorillas...?
There is no bipartisanism in the democratic partys game, they have a majority for now and they will use it to pass all the legislation they can shove through as quickly as they can, the less that is read, the better they like it.
You mean like the Repeal of the Glass Stegal Act in 1999, which deregulated the banks and allowed Commercial Banks and Investment Banks become one again? Who was that who signed that into law? HINT: It was a democrat not a republican
by bqqkn October 8, 2009 1:36 PM EDT
Ooh, ooh, I know. Who is Bill Clinton!
Was it veto proof?
So Clinton couldn't have vetoed it, even though he wanted to, correct?
He could have vetoed it, but he didn't
You know what, Why don't you look at some of the facts where Democrats got kick backs from the Mortgages. Don't sit there at your desk and play stupid. The Toxic Mortgages were the responsibility of both parties to watch. The democrats had kickbacks too. So I would watch how you word things. I could see if the Democrats had nothing to do with it, but in reality they did, and we both know that
YOU are the imbecile blaming the democrats for "all of our problems" that started "when they took control" - NOT ME.
I'm merely pointing out the fact that the meltdown happened in 2007 and 2008, because of stupidity and ultra-lax regulation enforcement, that happened YEARS before, under the republicans watch.
Maybe next time, you'll think before you type.
Yes but Hungry,
The Disaster began AFTER the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006. The democrats had a chance to correct it but they choose to ignore it.
Why don't you tell us how the democrats time traveled backwards in 2007, that caused all of those garbage mortgages to be written from 2002 - 2008?
The bill sponsored by Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt would require both the health insurance industry and malpractice Insurance industries to play by the same, good-competition rules as other industries...and...would strip them of various Sherman Anti Trust exemptions for violations, such as price fixing, bid rigging and market allocation.
Sorry, but I thought Obama was in charge when the money was handed out left and right to the financial institutions. Like I said one foot in front of the other. Baby steps. By the way, looks like your cap locks is stuck.
You thought wrong - AGAIN.
Henry Paulson doled that money out - LAST SEPTEMBER.
Care to guess again?
Instead we have someone in there that has never run a state, let alone a country. And you voted for them...... PILS, you kill me. LOL!! : )))
Bush ran a company, a baseball team, a state, and a country, and look at what a disaster that turned out to be.
The Disaster began AFTER the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006. The democrats had a chance to correct it but they choose to ignore it.
The Disaster began AFTER the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006."
Is that when Bush blew $1.5 trillion on two tax cuts for the rich?
Is that when we went into Iraq unnecessarily?
I don't care who voted for or supported it - both were Bush's babies, and they have been very expensive disasters.
.
45000 Americans are dying every year so you
republi'con's can make a political point
by Mortarman29 October 8, 2009 11:46 AM EDT
Silly.
45,000 people die every year due to a lack of health insurance, and a neo con thinks that is "silly".
I hate to admit it, but I'm not surprised by the right's extremist "let them die" views anymore. It's come to be expected.