August 14, 2009 7:15 PM

Gun Rights Don't Apply In Domestic Violence Cases, Appeals Court Rules

By
Declan McCullagh
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Last year's U.S. Supreme Court ruling on the Second Amendment did not, contrary to what you may have heard at the time, resolve very much.

Unanswered are questions about carrying firearms in public, gun sales on government property, firearm registration, guns in government housing, handgun restrictions that aren't exactly the same as the District of Columbia's, zoning and gun stores, and so on. And so far, at least, lower courts have been overwhelmingly hostile to gun owners' rights.

The latest example is a decision late Thursday by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit, which said that a criminal defendant may not be allowed to present a Second Amendment defense to a federal jury in Utah. It came after the appeals court granted an extraordinary emergency appeal, called a writ of mandamus, from the Justice Department after the district judge agreed to allow those jury instructions.

The defendant, Rick Engstrum, has an earlier misdemeanor domestic violence conviction and has been charged with possessing a firearm in violation of a federal law that applies to anyone "who has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence." He has pleaded not guilty.

(The prosecution arose when Engstrum broke up with his girlfriend, who subsequently told police that he had a gun in his bedroom. Engstrum voluntarily showed police the gun, which he inherited from his father; there's no evidence he has ever used the firearm, let alone threatened anyone with it.)

Engstrum, reasonably, wanted to argue to the jury that the Second Amendment renders that law invalid, at least when applied to people who show no risk of future violence. (Remember, this is a Utah jury, which raises the odds that jurors are familiar with the right to keep and bear arms, and may even have heard of the concept of jury nullification.)

The Justice Department rejected this idea out of hand. By a 2-1 margin, a Tenth Circuit panel agreed, concluded that the Second Amendment didn't apply, and prohibited those jury instructions. "If the case proceeds to trial, the district court is directed not to instruct the jury on this Second Amendment defense, including not giving the proposed jury instruction," they wrote.

The two judges who slapped down the Second Amendment defense were both Republican appointees. Paul Kelly was a George H. W. Bush appointee, and Harris Hartz was a George W. Bush appointee.

More interesting is the dissent, written by Clinton appointee Michael Murphy. (An aside: Murphy spent much of his life in Wyoming and Utah, while his colleagues spent most of their careers in New Mexico.)

Murphy wrote:
This court has not yet passed on the constitutionality of (the federal law dealing with domestic violence) in light of District of Columbia v. Heller. That opinion's recognition of an individual right to bear arms for the defense of self, family, and property, raises substantial questions about how (the law) may be constitutionally applied...

This case presents novel constitutional questions, and I would prefer further briefing before deciding them. I express no opinion on whether the district court's approach is correct, but I cannot conclude the government has met its heavy burden of showing that the district court, in light of virtually no guidance from this court or the Supreme Court, is so far afield that the government is clearly entitled to relief... I would grant a stay of the proceedings below and order further briefing on the constitutional question.


Unfortunately, last year's U.S. v. Heller doesn't provide much in the way of guidance to the lower courts. The majority opinion did say, without elaborating, that "nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings."

That was enough for a federal district judge in Maine, in U.S. v. Booker, to rule that the domestic violence prohibition was constitutional. (Plus, a 2009 Supreme Court decision raised no objections to the domestic violence statute, but without evaluating it in terms of the Second Amendment.)

Douglas Berman, a professor of law at Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law, said on Friday that the panel's decision "shows significant antipathy toward serious consideration of Second Amendment rights."

"Anyone seriously committed to the Second Amendment and gun rights getting serious constitutional respect should be seriously disturbed by how willing and eager lower courts have been to accept federal prosecutors arguments that Heller is of no consequence for an array of broad and severe federal gun possession crimes," Berman wrote.

The bottom line? Forget the rhetoric on both sides after last year's Heller decision. So far, at least, there seems to be few state or federal gun-related laws -- except, perhaps for a complete handgun ban -- that U.S. courts are willing to strike down as unconstitutional.

Declan McCullagh is a correspondent for CBSNews.com. He can be reached at declan@cbsnews.com.

  • Declan McCullagh is the chief political correspondent for CNET. Declan previously was a reporter for Time and the Washington bureau chief for Wired and wrote the Taking Liberties section and Other People's Money column for CBS News' Web site.

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by s416 August 17, 2009 4:59 PM EDT
They should just put bullets in boxes of Cap'n Crunch
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by alliberty August 17, 2009 12:54 PM EDT
Ever since South Africa instituted gun bans it has the second highest murder rate next to gun control Columbia. Those people in S. Africa constantly live in fear.
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by alliberty August 17, 2009 12:51 PM EDT
How do you know he's a red neck. There are minorities, ghettos and gang bangers in Utah. Maybe your liberal bias can only see red neck as a gun owner doing the drive bys.
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by alliberty August 17, 2009 12:47 PM EDT
Most americans were poor during the american revolution yet they could still buy guns. Most who fought against the crown under Gen. Washington were poor. The guns were not available to th russian peasants so there was no way to know if they can afford them.
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by alliberty August 17, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
According to Nation Fact the top ten countries with the highest murder rates all have strict gun control.
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by s416 August 16, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
I believe I have a second Amendment right to own Scud missiles and Nukes. My militia rights shall not be infringed in any way, or you are Anti-American. An H-bomb would fit perfectly into my arsenal, to add to my cop killer bullets, nerve gas agents, and chemical weapons. Since I am rich, I'm also looking for some Pershing missiles, and to add to my hand grenade , and land mine collection(to scatter on my estate-lest any Liberals try to take away my rights) My rights to own these agents of destruction shall not be INFRINGED, you Commies! LOL
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by alliberty August 17, 2009 12:18 PM EDT
Your funny. There is a differnce between individual weapon for the soldier and crew served weapons for the group such as the squad.
by jimverdolini August 16, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
This is exactly how the existing court behaved after the 14th Amendment. The sitting courts did not like the idea that blacks should/did have the same rights as whits nor did they like the idea that all the precedent on the issue of rights was obsolete so they ignored the 14th. 11 years after the 14th was passed in large part to insure blacks had the same rights as whites in gun ownership to protect themselves and families from the KKK, we had the Supreme Court in Cruikshank decide the federal government has no role in protecting black gun rights, assembly rights, speech rights or voting rights...We are still arguing about incorporating the 2nd amendment against the states as we have almost all other basic protections against government excess. One can lead a court to the Constitution but one cannot make them drink.
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by s416 August 16, 2009 11:24 AM EDT
Canada, Norway, Britain, Sweden, Denmark instituted handgun control laws. From 1970-2009, 150 MILLION people have not been murdered
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by alliberty August 17, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
Cambodia during Pol Pot had gun control, Rwanda during the genocide had gun control. Only countries with gun control in the late 20th century their people were victims of genocide or ruled by dictatorships.No country giving liberal gun rights to its people were never victims of genocide or ruled by a dictator. The Europeans were not murdered because the US military protected them and prevented them from being over run by the USSR who committed mass murder and oppression. Gun control did nothing to save the lives of these people it was our military.
by gunownerdan August 16, 2009 4:06 AM EDT
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money August 15, 2009 11:29 AM EDT
by the_majesty August 14, 2009 8:13 PM EDT
o_the_potus ... I am a man of truth and honor.
I only post truth and facts..............
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Man of truth and honor? You're a rube.

You are comical though. We should keep you around for the entertainment value, if nothing else.
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