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CBS News/ August 1, 2011, 2:12 PM

Debt deal rankles liberals, Tea Partiers in the House

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Rep. Steny Hoyer, the No. 2 Democrat in the House, will have to get his caucus on board with the president's deal to raise the debt ceiling.

Updated at 2:10 p.m. ET

President Obama has landed a deal with Republicans to make sweeping cuts in government spending in exchange for raising the debt ceiling. The deal was brokered with literally hours to go before the U.S. exhausted its ability to borrow money, but its success in the House is still uncertain.

Progressive Democrats are irate that the bill makes sweeping cuts without any revenue increases, and Tea Party members could hold their ground against any deal that doesn't require stricter spending controls. Over the next few hours, party leaders will be convincing their most ideological members they should hold their noses and pass the bill.

House Democrats may be the hardest to convince the deal is worth supporting. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., head of the Congressional Black Caucus, lamented the plan would put Medicare "on the chopping block" and tweeted Monday morning, "This deal is a sugar-coated satan sandwich. If you lift the bun, you will not like what you see." He added, "This debt deal is antithetical to everything the great religions of the world teach, which is take care of the poor, aged, vulnerable."

On Sunday, as the parameters of the deal started to emerge, Rep. Raul Grijalva, co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, released a statement in opposition to it, saying the deal "trades peoples' livelihoods for the votes of a few unappeasable right-wing radicals."

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Even Democratic leaders in the House, who have been working with Mr. Obama to forge a deal that can pass Congress, gave a tepid response to the outcome.

"This is not a balanced approach," Rep. Steny Hoyer, the No. 2 Democrat in the House, said on CBS' "The Early Show" on Monday. "Revenues need to be on the table, and we haven't done that."

In a statement Monday morning, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi was mum on whether House Democrats would support the deal. "We all agree that our nation cannot default on our obligations and that we must honor our nation's commitments to our seniors, and our men and women in the military," she said. "I look forward to reviewing the legislation with my caucus to see what level of support we can provide."

The plan that finally emerged after weeks of contentious negotiations includes nearly $1 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years, with a similar increase in the debt limit. It creates a special, bipartisan congressional committee of a dozen members to come up with recommendations for $1.5 trillion in further deficit reductions by Thanksgiving.

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If the committee fails to reach that target, or Congress doesn't pass those recommendations by the end of 2011, the debt limit could also be increased if Congress sends to the states a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, a key demand for many conservatives in the debt fight. If the amendment also fails, the deal calls for automatic spending cuts to defense and domestic programs totaling between $1.2 and $1.5 trillion, with an accompanying debt limit increase.

Liberal activists are warning that Congress can't expect that many Democrats to get behind a plan that in their eyes puts Medicare "on the chopping block," as Cleaver put it. As many as 87 House Democrats signed a letter from the progressive caucus earlier opposing any deal that cuts Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits.

Their outrage over the current plan is shared by liberal pundits like New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, who called the deal "an abject surrender on the part of the president."

Progressive economist Robert Reich lamented, "The radical right has now won a huge tactical and strategic victory... And the largest threat to our democracy is the emergence of a radical right capable of getting most of the ransom it demands.

While it's unclear how many liberals will get on board with the deal, it's also possible that a significant number of conservative Republicans could revolt.

As many as 22 House Republicans last week voted against a plan put forward by House Speaker John Boehner. While Democrats roundly rejected Boehner's bill as too extreme, those 22 House Republicans said it didn't go far enough.

After unveiling the deal Sunday night, Boehner and several of his Republican colleagues hailed the deal. "We fought, they caved," Boehner said.

Rep. Don Manzullo, R-Ill., told the speaker, "You scored an eagle on the 18th hole and won the U.S. Open."

The conservative Wall Street Journal editorial page called the deal a "Tea Party triumph," but not all Tea Party members see it that way.

Conservative Rep. Jason Chaffetz of Utah told local station KSL TV on Sunday night that he's inclined to oppose the deal.

"Right now I'm a probable 'No.' I want a solution and not a deal," he said. "We've got to take care of the underlying challenge and not just come up with some cuts that might happen 10 years from now."

Rep. Connie Mack, R-Fla., said on MSNBC Monday morning that he's also going to vote against it. "I haven't heard anything over the last couple of weeks that I could support," he said.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, the leader of the House Tea Party Caucus and a presidential candidate, also released a statement saying the deal "spends too much and doesn't cut enough. This isn't the deal the American people 'preferred' either, Mr. President. Someone has to say no. I will."

The House conservatives have the support of such pundits as Erick Erickson of Redstate.com. "Were I in Congress, I'd vote against it," he writes. "All that said, I think this is it, so we might as well get used to it. Just keep track of who on the right votes against it. They'll be the real heroes."

Update: Activist groups have sprung into action today, urging members of Congress to listen to their political base as they head into today's votes.

On the right, the influential group the Club for Growth is warning members of Congress that the vote on the debt deal will be included in the Club for Growth's 2011 Congressional Scorecard.

"The problems with this proposal are many, but fiscal conservatives should have obvious concerns for the lack of guaranteed future spending cuts, no requirement that a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution be sent to the states, a commission that could still recommend job-killing tax increases, and worse of all, two debt limit increases totaling over $2 trillion within only a matter of months," Andrew Roth, the group's vice president of government affairs, said in a statement.

Meanwhile, the liberal site FireDogLake is asking supporters to call their members of Congress and urge them to "oppose the creation of a 'Super Congress' in the deficit bill."

Referring to the debt deal's proposed deficit reduction committee, FireDogLake says, "The 'Super Congress' is how Congress intends to insulate themselves from taking unpopular votes to cut Social Security and Medicare benefits -- by investing a small group of elites with extraordinary powers, and then tying their own hands from stopping them."

Other liberal groups are also getting involved. Justin Ruben, executive director of MoveOn.org, said the group surveyed its 5 million members, "and the vast majority oppose the deal because it unfairly asks seniors and the middle class to bear the burden of the debt deal. Congress should do what it should have done long ago and what it has done dozens of times before - pass a clean debt ceiling bill."

From CBS Moneywatch.com:

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Truth_Tracker says:
The Super Wealthy got everything they wanted, no questions asked, with the "TARP-Banks-Wall Street-Auto Industry" bailouts. The Super Wealthy got a humongous Welfare Check last December when the Bush Tax Breaks for the Super Wealthy was renewed. And NOW, we are told, they are getting everything they wanted yet again, namely, a complete exemption from having to share in the onerous burden of reducing the deficit, because there's no potential here for a roll-back of their Bush Tax Breaks (Welfare Benefits) for the wealthy.

The U.S. media refuses to even deem this to be significant, probably because THEY benefit tremendously from those "Welfare for the Wealthy" hand-outs and they surreptitiously silence the issue by shifting focus to the "Default Crisis" - with the curt remark "something for everyone to hate," and with the errant national anthem "pass anything - anything is better than default." Well there's nothing in this plan for the Super Wealthy to "hate." The super wealthy are the only ones being rigorously represented in Congress, in the White House or in the media.
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dennisall77 says:
Someone here tell me what the wealthy sacrifice in this deal? Answer: NOTHING

Even Warren Buffet says the wealthy need to pay more.

Who here thinks the wealthy should pay even lower taxes? LOL... so they will create jobs with the savings??? LOL Didn't work when Bush lowered them...
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Mortarman1SG replies:
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No one sacrifices in this deal.
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vista8635 says:
There is no honor amongst predators! The middleclass, senior citizens, and the poor are "between a rock and a hard place."
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dennisall77 says:
Obama has already raised the ceiling 3 times, Bush 7 times, etc. Why is THIS one so special? Because the Repugs want to use it against Obama in the coming election. Seems to be working... the party of Nancy Reagan: Just say NO!
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dennisall77 says:
Remember THESE Republican positions?:

McCarthy: There are 104 known Communists in the Congress

It was just a 3rd rate breakin

I am no crook

There was NO arms deal with Iran

Smoking does NOT cause cancer

Global Warming is a hoax

We are NOT bombing Cambodia

Whitewater needs an expensive investigation

The earth is flat
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dennisall77 replies:
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twice... how quickly you forget! and you must ignore them if you keep voting Repug
dennisall77 replies:
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no digging needed to come up w Repug idiocy.. all in current memory... and they just keep happening...

unnecessary war in Iraq
tax cuts for wealthy that scuttled economy
Katrina fiasco
re-election Bush (huge mistake)
Election of Bush... even bigger mistake
voter fraud in FL
voter fraud in OH
voter suppression attempts all over US by demanding voter ID's
etc etc etc
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documemts says:
I'm rankled. Might have to go to the doctor.
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cattiej says:
Remember the t party people at election time. They are the ones that are probably guilty of treason against Our United States of America. Treason IS when someone or a party wants to overthrow the government. There are our own home grown terriorists..Remember that many of the politicans have been in office for years and have spent this money to put our country in debt...not us, we the taxpayers paid for it..Time to impeach these t party folks as they are tearing our country apart on purpose. We also know that Karl Rove and his Crossroads group are involved in this. Boehner has made some enemies and some of his friends have stabbed him in the back..well, that's Washington for you...wait until some of these greedy, corrupt politicans come back to their districts and then we the people will protest very strongly against their decision to hold our country hostage...yep, they are committing TREASON..Our country is a war and these t party people are NOT protecting our country but protecting the t party people...enough, ENOUGH....
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mountainstates1 says:
How do Republicans think it's okay that rich people don't pay their fair share?? If I were a billionaire I'd be glad to pay my fair share of taxes. I want to live in nation of excellent schools, well-paid teachers, firefighters who don't have to work second jobs, and police officers who can retire from years of difficult service to their communities with a decent pension. Shame on Republicans. They have proven to be truly "un-American"!
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dennisall77 replies:
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Their fair share is in proportion to the extreme benefits they get from this country. They are making millions while most are making a few thousand. Someone making $35K pays around 35%.. .with few loopholes... but the fat cats pay far less than the 39% they begin with due to loopholes and writeoffs that others do not have... job creators? no, they are not... they merely buy another Benz. I think their fair share to start with is more like 45%
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Topkitty27 says:
Paying the bill for G.W.'s and Cheney's war to secure Iraqi oil for his corporate buddies is going to be expensive. If a Republican is elected as President, we will be at war with Iran within 2 years. Wanna bet on who they blame for all the defense spending cuts? I see more no-bid contracts coming Halliburton's way.....
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vista8635 replies:
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There is no honor amongst predators! The middleclass, senior citizens, and the poor are "between a rock and a hard place."
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saturn05 says:
I am so tired of people using the word entitlements as an evil word. There are many who can only survive because of Social Security and Medicare. I don't begrudge them the help at all. I pay taxes so we have social services, Social Security, Medicare, highways, police, fire personnel, education and so on. Call me a socialist, but I believe in helping each other. I don't believe in making the rich richer though. They need to pay their fair share and corporations need to get appropriately taxed. Things are so messed up and you can't blame it on Obama. Bush created so much of this mess and Obama tried to clean up, but no President could have cleaned up the mess left by the Republicans. I am disappointed in Obama though. He has become a moderate Republican and will lose many voted from Democrats due to this. So go ahead and blame Obama all you want, but the republicans are so soulless that they are throwing the elderly and less fortunate under the bus. Hope they can sleep at night. Oh wait, evil never sleeps.
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miami_don replies:
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well said.
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