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CBS News/ July 25, 2011, 10:49 PM

Obama takes debt case to American people

President Obama delivers a national address about the stalemate over the debt ceiling on July 25, 2011.

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Updated: 10:31 p.m. ET

With just eight days left before a possible economic catastrophe, President Obama on Monday took his argument for a "balanced" debt limit agreement to the American people, arguing in a prime  time address that voters should call their members of Congress in support of a deal that "asks everyone to give a little without requiring anyone to sacrifice too much."

Transcript: Obama's remarks on debt fight
Transcript: Boehner's remarks on debt fight

Speaking from the White House, the president lambasted Republicans for what he cast as a refusal to compromise, arguing that the nation faces a possible "deep economic crisis -- one caused almost entirely by Washington."

"Republican House members have essentially said that the only way they'll vote to prevent America's first-ever default is if the rest of us agree to their deep, spending cuts-only approach," Mr. Obama said. "If that happens, and we default, we would not have enough money to pay all of our bills - bills that include monthly Social Security checks, veterans' benefits, and the government contracts we've signed with thousands of businesses."

"It is a dangerous game we've never played before, and we can't afford to play it now," he warned. "People are fed up with a town where compromise has become a dirty word."

Mr. Obama continued to ask Republicans to accept revenue increases for the wealthiest Americans, saying they and large corporations should "give up some of their tax breaks and special deductions."

Arguing that Republican leaders were acting outside of the interests of their constituents, Mr. Obama called on voters to "make your voice heard."

"The American people may have voted for divided government, but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government," he said. "So I'm asking you all to make your voice heard. If you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your Member of Congress know. If you believe we can solve this problem through compromise, send that message."

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Invoking the words of former President Ronald Reagan, Mr. Obama asked Americans to consider the two sides of the argument: "Would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates by raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share, or would you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates, and higher unemployment? And I think I know your answer."

House Speaker John Boehner, responding in a nationally televised statement directly following the president's, accused Mr. Obama of creating a "crisis atmosphere" over the debt limit negotiations, and challenged him to sign a recently-unveiled two-step GOP plan.

"Obviously, I expect that bill can and will pass the Senate and be sent to the president for a signature," Boehner said. "If the president signs it, the crisis atmosphere he has created will simply disappear."

"You see, there's no stalemate in Congress," Boehner argued. "The House passed a bill to raise the debt limit with bipartisan support, and this week while the Senate is struggling to pass a bill filled with phony accounting and Washington gimmicks, we're going to pass another bill, one developed in support of the Washington leadership of the U.S. Senate."

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The speaker left out some important context, however.

The bill that has already passed - the 'Cut, Cap, and Balance' Act - would require deep cuts in entitlement programs, and it is virtually unthinkable that it could pass the Democrat-led Senate. And the bill he says will be passed this week is no sure thing, with Conservative Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, leader of a fiscal conservative faction, saying he opposes the new bill and that "only a Balanced Budget Amendment will actually solve our debt problems."

Nevertheless, Boehner derided Mr. Obama's much-touted "balanced approach," which he said, "in Washington means, we spend more and you pay more."

"The sad truth is the president wanted a blank check six months ago and wants a blank check today," Boehner added. "That is just not going to happen."

Boehner said in his remarks that "the United States cannot default on its debt obligations," echoing Mr. Obama and Democrats' insistence that the debt limit be raised. But he cast the president and his party as unwilling to compromise by passing the House GOP legislation, saying "the president would not take yes for an answer."

"Even when we thought we might be close on an agreement, the president's demands changed," Boehner said, a possible reference to Mr. Obama's call for greater revenues as part of a "grand bargain" deal that would have reduced the deficit by up to $4 trillion. Boehner walked away from that effort Friday.

Senate Democrats on Monday unveiled a plan that would cut spending by $2.7 trillion in exchange for an increase to the debt limit that would last through the end of next year. The plan circumvents the main objections to a deal from the left and the right by both avoiding cuts to entitlement programs and declining to include revenue increases.

The proposal includes $1 trillion in reductions tied to spending cuts from winding down the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, however - something critics say should not count in the total savings. 

Other savings in the Democratic plan would come from a $1.2 trillion reduction in both defense and non-defense discretionary spending, interest savings worth $400 billion, and savings of $100 billion largely through reducing fraud and abuse in government programs, cutting $10-$15 billion in agriculture subsidies and saving $30 billion in Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac reforms. The plan would also create a bipartisan committee to seek out future savings.

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Mr. Obama called that plan a "much better approach" than a Republican alternative, but, somewhat surprisingly at this late stage in the debate, he essentially called for a reset to the sort of "grand bargain" approach he had previously pushed, one that included both entitlement cuts and revenue increases. That plan, he said, would "reduce the deficit by around $4 trillion and put us on a path to pay down our debt."

"I have told leaders of both parties that they must come up with a fair compromise in the next few days that can pass both houses of Congress - and a compromise I can sign," he said. "And I am confident we can reach this compromise."

The Democratic proposal amounts to a punt on that "grand bargain" sought by Mr. Obama. After Boehner abandoned those negotiations on Friday, Republicans and Democrats worked separately over the weekend in efforts to craft an alternate deal.

The Republican plan, unveiled by House GOP leaders on Monday, mandates immediate cuts and caps in discretionary spending, potentially saving $1.2 trillion over a decade. In exchange, the debt ceiling would be raised by less than $1 trillion, enough to last the nation through the end of the year. The spending caps would trigger automatic across-the-board spending cuts if not met.

The GOP plan then creates a 12-member "Joint Committee of Congress" that would additionally identify $1.6 to $1.8 trillion in deficit reduction over a decade. The House and Senate would consider those savings in an up-and-down vote, without amendments. If the plan passes, President Obama could then request a separate, $1.6 trillion debt limit increase.

During a closed-door meeting with his caucus Monday, Boehner suggested that Democrats lack the votes to pass the Reid plan. He said the GOP plan has the necessary votes, by contrast, and that the president will thus be forced to sign it. Boehner also called on his caucus to stick together to achieve Republican goals.

Democrats call the House Republican plan a "non-starter" because it would require another debt limit fight before the end of next year.

"Does anyone think it would be a good idea to do this all over again in six months?" Sen. Charles Schumer of New York said Monday.

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, in unveiling the Senate Democratic plan, called on Republican leaders to buck conservative "extremists" and rally behind his plan. Schumer said Republicans "can't refuse" the offer, since it reflected spending cuts Republicans have backed and did not include revenue increases.

"If they refuse this offer, it simply means they want a default, for any reason," said Schumer.

The Obama administration has said that without congressional action, the U.S. will breach its limit on borrowing next Tuesday, August 2. That could cause the U.S. to default on its debt as well as a host of other negative outcomes, including the suspension of Social Security checks, military pay and other obligations, and potentially cause global financial chaos.

Credit ratings agencies have warned that they are poised to withdraw the United States' triple-A credit rating without guarantees that it will not default, and they have also suggested that the credit rating is in danger without a significant deficit reduction effort. That would potentially mean an increase in the cost of borrowing both for the U.S. government and for Americans seeking home and car loans and a higher interest rate for those seeking to pay off credit card debt.

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raiderontop1 says:
Today is Vetrans Day, to all you politicly correct people, you are luky to live in a country that lets you state your mind. You get that rite from brave men and woman, that leave home to battle the people who want to take that freedom away. Please could you, for one minute of your time, give a silent, thank you.
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mijares78 says:
Enough with tax breaks for the rich. They can afford to pay extra taxes. Boehner, how can you not support the president? Shame on your proposal.
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raiderontop1 says:
What is wrong with all of you people ? America is the best and safest place in the world. As a Vetran, I support my camander and chief and he is trying to help all of us in the middle class, is it not clear enough or do we trust the greedy ones that put us in this state.
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Solurius replies:
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I'm amazed that you served. If you don't know it's COMMANDER IN CHIEF, him being the one you indirectly served under. But I definitely agree with your comments. This isn't a Republican or a Democrat problem. Both parties have contributed to this economic state but, as with any war, it costs money. When Bush jr took office we had a surplus, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid were sound and all was mostly right with our world. Then came the terror of 9/11/2001 and all that changed. We declared war on terror and Dick Cheney declared war on Iraq. Instead of having Seal teams searching out the perpetrator of these crimes, we engaged in an invasion of two foreign sovereign states. Now we have a quandry. How to get out of these wars. Our President is attempting to scale things down. Oh, and yes, I also served.
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Octorama says:
Nearly 30% of people bet on U.S. default. What do you bet?

http://octorama.com/desktop/show.php?id=1262
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RobAla says:
Just because President Obama calls taxing Americans more "balanced", it does not make it so. It is destructive to the private sector businesses, the real source of jobs. There is nothing "balanced" about maintaining a bloated federal government at the expense of even fewer jobs in the private sector. This is about as loop sided as it gets.
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RobAla says:
Usually, when Washington talks about cuts to government spending, it is only talking about cuts to the automatic increases in federal government spending. Most federal programs have built in 7-8% increases, which is about twice the inflation rate (around 3%). I have a novel idea. Whey can't we just do the following?
1) Have no (that means 0%) increases in federal spending unless we reach a balanced budget and can afford it.
2) Have no tax increases.
3) Look for government waste and get rid of it.

I wonder how long it would take to bring federal spending under control without increases in taxes and any REAL cuts to the federal government. Has either political party done any analysis along these lines? If not, why not?

We have 2 main problems:
1) A staggering $14.4 trillion national debt, which we are adding $1.5 trillion to in deficit spending each year. How long can we keep this insanity up? This has to stop.
2) We have been maintaining a horrible 9% unemployment rate. It is absolutely irresponsible to further damage jobs in the private sector by increasing taxes. The President and many Democrats in the Senate want to feed the federal government by higher taxes on businesses and investors, which will certainly cost Americans more jobs in the private sector.

Enough of this lousy policies and bad economics! No additional taxes! It is time for the bloated federal government to be put on a diet. Why not just bring the expansion of the federal government to ZERO growth, cut waste, and leave the taxes where they are?

With a staggering $14.4 trillion national debt, and adding to it $1.5 trillion each year, it has to be obvious to even the village idiot that Washington politicians have irresponsibly lost total control of rational fiscal thinking. It light of this, how can anyone in their right mind be against a Balance Budget Amendment to the US Constitution that forces this irresponsible bunch of yahoos to control federal spending?
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clideguitar replies:
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Most of this debt is due to the bank failure's from 3 years ago. (Not to mention 2 wars started by Bush). What were the choices: Let our economy fail or the "Stimulus"?

As for taxes, yes - the tax burden on small business's is at the breaking point. Here is my problem - if the rich and "Corporate" America PAID their fair share we wouldn't have this problem? I don't think any major corporations pay their taxes - they hide all their money overseas. Or, they get BREAKS - Exxon $40 Billion 2 years ago - unbelievable.

Just pay your FAIR share - that's all!
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msbpodcast says:
We need a mechanism to hold plebiscites in this country.

Then they could find out what the people REALLY think rather than the "bought and paid for" shills that borrow all of their funds are being pid to say.

I suspect that John Boehner would find out that most people don't care about his "principles" and would gladly ket his "pals" pay their fair share.
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Jeepsrule says:
I think the Pres ought to do what Clinton suggested a week or two ago, just raise the debt limit and let the courts battle it out. I would support President doing that and it would send a clear message to the GOP that office of the President of the United States is done F**king round.
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Progress4U replies:
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I agree with you 100% and I think he might just take that option to protect the country in the final hour.
Trueamerican1 replies:
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Agree 100%
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clideguitar says:
I'm so embarrassed to an American - this is the first time ever. To see what was meant to be the greatest form of democracy since ancient Greece is now just an embarrassment.

The founding fathers formed our Government with checks and balances with all good intentions. It's now apparent to me that the LESGISTLATIVE branch has failed MISERABLY and continues to inhibit any KIND OF RECOVERY attempt for our economy.

Members of CONGRESS - heed my warning. There will be revolution - just as we saw overseas in the Middle East. If you don't think it cannot happen here in the United States - think again.

To say that our members of Congress are acting like 3 years old is INSULTING to 3 year olds. We the PEOPLE are laughing at you - you are a joke that is not funny.
I'm tired of you BUMBLY FOOLS - democrats and republicans - you're disgusting and
Embarrassing.

This country (the United States of America) in not a joke - it is not play thing - it's not about politics - it used to be about PRIDE and COUNTRY and FAITH - and when I say FAITH it means whatever religion. That's not what it's about anymore - it's all about the all mighty DOLLAR - we've lost our way as a country and a people?

Mr. President, take action. Declare an Executive Order that removes Congress from any action that concerns the deficit and do what you need to do. Everyone will go into a
Hissy fit but will secretly will admire you. Enough of this "PARTISON" politics!!! How is that working out for you???

Bob Jessie
Not proud to be an American
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RobAla replies:
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The President is not King. We have a balance of power among the branches, and the President should not attempt to squash elected representatives. Republicans in Congress are finally doing the responsible thing by pushing a bill that Cuts current outrageous federal spending, Caps future spending by limiting it to a certain percentage of the GDP, and moving the nation toward a balanced budget through a Constitutional amendment. This is the right way of handling this mess.

I would not admire the President for attempting to further undermine the US Constitution by granting powers to himself that do not rightfully belong to him.
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nottellin1 says:
What is really sad is that so many of you don't understand that this has nothing to do with what Obama wants or doesn't want. The issue is do we want to cut spending now, including on Social Sec & other entitlement programs or do we want to cut out all spending inthe very new future when all the revenue the Fed receives will need to be used to service our debt.
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