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Brian Montopoli /

CBS News/ July 13, 2011, 3:32 PM

Michele Bachmann in 2004: Homosexuality is "personal enslavement"

Updated 3:59 p.m. Eastern Time

Michele Bachmann's emergence as one of the top contenders for the Republican presidential nomination has meant increased scrutiny for the socially-conservative Minnesota representative. Her beliefs on homosexuality, in particular, have come under the microscope - despite the fact that Bachmann has repeatedly refused to discuss them since entering the presidential race.

Bachmann's beliefs have come under scrutiny because of her past record on gay issues as well as her family's source of income. While in the Minnesota statehouse, Bachmann championed a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. Her husband, Marcus Bachmann, runs a Christian counseling clinic where some patients say they were offered therapy on converting from gay to straight; hidden camera footage taken by a gay rights group shows a counselor at the clinic telling one man that "God has created you for heterosexuality." Marcus Bachmann is on record comparing homosexuals to "barbarians" who "need to be educated," but he has denied that his clinic engages in such therapy, which mental health professionals say is ineffective and harmful.

Bachmann's campaign - and Bachmann herself - has declined to answer repeated requests from CBS News for an explanation of her beliefs about homosexuality. But in 2004, when she was a state senator, Bachmann gave an hour-long speech outlining her opinions at the time.

Audio from the speech was posted earlier this year by an anti-Bachmann website called dumpbachmann.com, which identified the venue as the EdWatch.com National Education Conference. Bachmann is introduced by name in the recording, and there is little question that she is the speaker. CBSNews.com has excerpted a few of the more controversial comments in the video above; you can listen to the full speech here.

Some of Bachmann's comments from the speech have been reported by mainstream media outlets, including Bachmann's characterization of homosexuality as "part of Satan." Yet others have attracted little notice.

Bachmann says in the speech that she is not "bashing" people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender, saying "we need to have profound compassion for people who are dealing with the very real issue of sexual dysfunction in their life, and sexual identity disorders."

"It's sad," she continues. "Any of you who have members of your family that are in the lifestyle - we have a member of our family that is - this is not funny. It's a very sad life." Bachmann has a stepsister who is gay.

She goes on to say that it is "profoundly sad to recognize that almost all, if not all, individuals who have gone into the lifestyle have been abused at one time in their life."

Bachmann argues that legalizing same-sex marriage - which she describes as "bringing it into the mainstream if you will, giving it a legitimacy" - will impact all Americans, "particularly the schools." She says it means teachers will be forced to teach "sexual identity" in a way that suggests homosexuality is acceptable.

She says "children would have to be taught a falsehood because they're in a captive audience in the public schools, they couldn't get out."

Later, Bachmann says being "involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle" amounts to "personal bondage, personal despair and personal enslavement." She also describes homosexuality as "sexual anarchy." She goes on to lament efforts by gay rights advocates to convince Americans that homosexuality is "just another thing, with a shrug of their shoulders."

Bachmann complains that people with her views have been cast as hateful in the media while supporters of "the gay cause...come off looking very insightful and very thoughtful." She goes on to point out that gay rights efforts get donations from companies like Proctor and Gamble, saying she no longer uses the company's products because it encouraged its employees to work on behalf of same-sex marriage.

Bachmann also complains about claims that homosexuality is immutable, saying, "you need to know there is not one scientific study anywhere that has shown that this is an immutable physical characteristic."

She tells her audience that the popular television and music are being used to push gay rights, complaining that "there's no shortage...of gay characters on TV." Even straight characters, she says, are shown experimenting with homosexuality.

She then ticks off shows that feature LGBT characters, like "ER," "Two and a Half Men" and "Will and Grace," adding, "not coincidentally, many of these shows are very popular with kids."

"Today under 'Will and Grace,' the attitude is, 'hey, I'm gay, so what?'" says Bachmann. "It's the apathy factor that's set in."

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., gets a hug from her husband Marcus following her formal announcement to seek the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, Monday, June 27, 2011, in Waterloo, Iowa.

/ Charlie Neibergall
Bachmann then weighs in on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," complaining that the premise reflects a double standard.

"It's even entertaining to tell a straight man that they should change, but tell a gay man that he should change, and that is considered homophobic blasphemy," she says.

Bachmann goes on to point to what she sees as a gay agenda pushed by George Michael, Melissa Etheridge and in a kiss between Britney Spears and Madonna on an MTV awards show. She then says the problem also exists in local communities, showing a clip of  an "elementary teacher teaching his students about gayness."

She says the pro-gay message being sent to kids amounts to "child abuse," adding, "You don't think that's intentional, the message that's being given to these kids?"

"We've all but lost the generation that is under 30 years of age," says Bachmann. "Some would say even under 40 years of age. Because this generation has already shrugged its shoulders, gotten on the boat of apathy and said, 'Yeah, hey, what's wrong [with being gay]? It's just another choice.'"

A Bachmann spokesperson did not respond to an inquiry over whether Bachmann stands by her 2004 comments.

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Michele Bachmann on the campaign trail

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mnmsf says:
Hey, can we throw her away? Or crack her like the nut she is?
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phillipwilde says:
Michele Bachmann is an ignorant fearmonger. I am a 23-year-old gay man who was never sexually abused. I grew up in a conservative environment in central Texas, where I was taught that homosexuality was wrong. That did not stop me from being gay.
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trumpetstuff says:
Ms. Bachmann - I don't know if you still stand by what you said about GLBT people back in 2004. I certainly hope not, but I'm definitely not holding my breath.

You don't speak for how our lives are. You can only speak for yourself. We speak for ourselves, thank you. You don't have to like us; that is your choice. But we exist, and you can't change that. Please get over it.
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Lindag10 says:
by JV1970 July 15, 2011 1:46 PM EDT


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Everything I've said is absolutely true. With all of this I don't know how you can tell me that I'm wrong!

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Classic JV. ROTFLMAO
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hsinco-2009 says:
If she won't answer questions now on the subject or any other subject, we have to look at past statements to judge her worthiness for office.

Looks like its back to MN and the submissive position in her marriage.
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Theowyn1 says:
by JV1970 July 14, 2011 9:44 AM EDT
"America needs to take a hard right because for the last thirty or forty years it's been turning entirely too much to the left! There's no morality left in America!"

You're wrong. I've never said that in a post before. I will disagree with people, but I've never said flat out, 'you're wrong'. But you are.

Morality is alive and well in America; you just might not recognize it because our mores have changed. We are a far less sexually repressive society than we were 30 or 40 years ago, and News Flash! We're not going back! That doesn't make us immoral. Times and societies change.

Look at the Bible and what was considered acceptable in those societies: polygamy, slavery. And if a man's wife was infertile, he could just go have sex with her servant instead. All with God's blessing.

I don't know many women today who would consider it okay for her husband to knock up the maid. It certainly wouldn't be considered moral. So I'd say we've come a LONG way up the morality ladder.

As long as we continue to make respect, compassion and equality for all priorities to strive for, we'll continue to make progress. The only thing that will hold us back is fearful reliance on ancient and repressive taboos.
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Look at the Bible and what was considered acceptable in those societies: polygamy, slavery. And if a man's wife was infertile, he could just go have sex with her servant instead. All with God's blessing.

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Yeah. Thank God Jesus came along and taught us that love for one another is more important than any set of rules!
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Theowyn1 When I was a child there was no sex on television. The television programs were clean and you didn't need filters on your tv to keep kids from hearing filthy language or watching porn. There was no filthy language or porn on tv. We watched such programs as Father Knows Best, Leave It To Beaver, The Nelsons, the original Mickey Mouse Club with Annette Funicello, and My Three Sons. Shows that could be trusted to be clean. Those kind of shows don't exist anymore.

Also since the Supreme Court took prayer and Bible reading out of our schools the crime rate has been steadily going up. People aren't teaching their kids morals or right from wrong anymore. It's dangerous to walk alone anymore especially after dark.

Everything I've said is absolutely true. With all of this I don't know how you can tell me that I'm wrong!
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abby_del_abbey says:
I think given the chance Bachmann would enslave every American to her extreme righteous right wing theocracy. She scares me more than any gay person ever could.
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nancyl62 says:
OMG so many choices and yet so little time.
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turkeysub3000 says:
I would call Michelle Bachmann a C**t but she lacks neither the depth nor the warmth for such an honorary title.
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inthelandofdollarbill says:
This bores me. She like Jesse Jackson, doesn't have a chance, never did and never will.
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