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CBS News/ June 13, 2011, 11:07 PM

GOP candidates split on federal marriage amendment

The seven Republican presidential candidates onstage at a debate in New Hampshire Monday night split on whether they support passage of a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman, while one - Rep. Michele Bachmann - seemed to trip over the question.

Within the context of New Hampshire's law allowing gay people to marry, Bachmann was asked what influence she would use as president "to try to overturn these state laws despite your own personal belief that states should handle their own affairs whenever possible."

"I do believe in the 10th amendment and I do believe in self-determination for the states," Bachmann responded, adding that she also sees marriage as "between a man and woman." Later, she said that she doesn't "see that it's the role of a president to go into states and interfere with their state laws."

The comment generated applause and was taken by debate moderator John King as Bachmann saying she would not interfere with the New Hampshire gay marriage law. Later, however, the Minnesota Republican clarified her position - saying she did back a federal marriage amendment.

"I do support a constitutional amendment on marriage between a man and woman, but I would not be going into the states to overturn their state law," said Bachmann.

Two of the candidates - Herman Cain and Rep. Ron Paul - suggested they opposed a federal marriage amendment. (Cain said it should be up to the states, while Paul stressed the federal government should not be involved in marriage at all.)

Newt Gingrich said that if the Defense of Marriage Act - which the Obama administration is now declining to defend in court - is overturned, "at that point you have no choice but a constitutional amendment."

Both Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty said they backed a constitutional amendment. So did Rick Santorum, who also suggested that the position didn't constitute overriding states' rights.

"The constitutional amendment includes the states," he said. "Three-quarters of the states have to ratify it. So the states will be involved in this process. We should have one law with respect to marriage. There needs to be consistency as something as foundational as what marriage is."

The candidates were also asked whether they would try to reinstate the "don't ask, don't tell" policy barring gay men and women from serving openly in the military. Cain said that he wouldn't have overturned the policy, but "now that they have changed it, I wouldn't create a distraction trying turn it over as president."

Paul said he would not work to overthrow the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," saying individual rights are paramount. He said behavior should be what matters, "not the person who belongs to which group."

Pawlenty declined to answer - saying he would defer to military commanders - while Romney chafed at the question, saying "we ought to be talking about the economy and jobs." He then declined to answer the question as well, though he said he believed the policy should not have been overturned in the first place.

Gingrich signaled that he opposed overturning the policy, but like Pawlenty said he would defer to military commanders. Bachmann said she supported the policy - but also said she would confer with military commanders.

The only unequivocal answer to reinstate the policy came from Santorum, who is known for his social conservatism.

"The job of the United States military is to protect and defend the people of this country," he said. "It is not for social experimentation. It should be repealed." 

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Kat973 says:
Rep. Michelle Bachman did indeed trip over the question of a federal marriage ameandment. A foolish move when I'm sure she is deeply aware of the importance of speaking clearly and clarifying her positions early on. After all, this is a sure fire issue. I happen to think she needed more time for her exploration committee to gather details about the major importance of this issue. She can come across as a bit naive at times, but compassionate. I believe she has spoken about her deep respect and admiration for her gay friends (but I can't find those press reports online, right now. Romney doesn't seem to come up much either, though he is a grounding force who is compassionate, although obviously much more conservative than Bachman. Even so, Bachman and Romney have surprising similarities and get along well. Seems rumors have led to the impression that Bachman is seeking change, when I personally believe she values marriage between a man and a woman. I think Bachman craves a stronger link to the gay community. She shares similar values. Her motivation is not centered around the marriage issue).
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Kat973 replies:
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***! Ignore what I just wrote (it doesn't make sense to me, either).
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justme2012 says:
In 50 days when Obama's predicted economic catastrophe hits the fan, people are going to be too worried about feeding their families to worry about if gays are married or not.
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jimbom121 replies:
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Yawn...tell it to the House. They are the ones holding it up...but telling their Wall St donors not to worry.
justme2012 replies:
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Obama is the POTUS

Obama is MIA

Obama is a failure

But he did go to wall street last week and started making them promices again... time to ask them for campaign money!!!
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WeHappyFew says:
No Pawlenty, the amendment states that the government will have no religious identity and will not interfere in the religious choices of others. NO governed country on the planet, at the time of American independence, had no a state religion. To try and make out that the constitution was designed to protect Christians against an atheist government is laughable. It specifically prescribed an atheist government for the equal protection of ALL faiths.
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marcm1 says:
The two sure fire issues to loose the independent vote for Republicans (which they need to win) are gay rights and abortion. The correct answer to any question about those issues should be " That is an issue each American has to confront on a personal level. The federal government has no right to peer into or try to control Americans personal lives." I was dishearten to see either issue enter the debate. We has a country have far more pressing issues to expend our energy on.When the Republicans and/or Democrats have solved this countries economic woo's then America might have the stomach to listen to their puppet masters agendas.Even then I think we all have had enough from both far sides.
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marcm1 says:
The two sure fire issues to loose the independent vote for Republicans (which they need to win) are gay rights and abortion. The correct answer to any question about those issues should be " That is an issue each American has to confront on a personal level. The federal government has no right to peer into or try to control Americans personal lives." I was dishearten to see either issue enter the debate. We has a country have far more pressing issues to expend our energy on.When the Republicans and/or Democrats have solved this countries economic woo's then America might have the stomach to listen to their puppet masters agendas.Even then I think we all have had enough from both far sides.
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ChaseC2005 says:
While I both understand and respect the time constraints, these are people's rights the candidates are being questioned about and the answers provided (especially Romney's) sound like they are ordering their morning coffee in relation to many of the other answers. This is an important issue to millions of Americans and life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is nothing to be blas? about especially at a debate in New Hampshire where same-sex marriage is legal.

Rep. Bachman 'believes' that the best way to raise children is by a man and woman but she was raised by a divorced mother and is now a candidate for the U.S. Presidency. I 'believe' before a statement like this is made she and other opponents to equal rights for gay Americans should further educate themselves on the subject. For example, there is a study done, and a resolution consequently approved, by the American Psychological Association that states "research has found that the factors that predict relationship satisfaction, relationship commitment, and relationship stability are remarkably similar for both same-sex cohabiting couples and heterosexual married couples" and that this similar stability "would be enhanced if partners from same-sex couples enjoyed the same levels of social support and public recognition of their relationships as partners from heterosexual couples do." Her statement also likes gay relationships to "troubled situations" which runs counter to this extensive study. Surely she wouldn't suggest that lower class couples shouldn't have equal rights to marry or adopt children (by her reasoning maybe so).

Additionally, she received an ovation after stating she doesn't feel it is in the Presidential role to interfere with state laws (such as New Hampshire's legalization of same-sex marriage); yet, in her rebuttal toward the end, Rep. Bachman claims she supports a constitutional amendment to define marriage. The applaud was repeated after Herman Cain's answer deferring the decision on the right to marry to the state. An increasingly larger number of polled voters support gay marriage; regardless, this issue likely will not be decided in state or federal legislative or executive branches but rather in the Supreme Court. DOMA denies over 1,100 rights to gay American citizens including social security survivor benefits and hospital visitation rights. Moreover, this act goes against the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution and Republicans are only pushing up the time table for a Supreme Court ruling on it. Like Speaker Gingrich, Bill Clinton was a strong supporter of DOMA and signed it into law; however unlike Gingrich, he now speaks out on it's discrimination.
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slatep says:
There should e no law passed against civil ceremonies for gays and lesbians.

One more case of Congress sticking it's nose in somebody elses business.

CONGRESS: Keep your noses in your own troughs.
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ThomasAlex replies:
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The 10th Amendment does not override the 14th Amendment of Equal Protections of the law.
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