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CBS News/ April 15, 2011, 2:27 PM

House GOP passes controversial $3.5 trillion budget plan

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House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., touts his 2012 federal budget during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, April 5, 2011.

/ AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite

Updated 3:29 p.m. Eastern Time

The Republican-led House this afternoon passed a $3.5 trillion spending bill for fiscal year 2012 that cuts billions of dollars in federal spending in part by making dramatic cuts to Medicaid and transforming Medicare into a voucher-like program for Americans under 55.

The largely party-line vote was 235-193. Just four Republicans voted against the GOP budget, and no Democrats voted for it.

The politically-risky plan promises to cut more than $6 trillion over a decade compared to the plan put forth by President Obama in February. It would transform Medicaid into a block grant program in which states get a lump sum from the federal government and mandates $771 billion less in federal spending on the program for the poor and disabled over a decade. It also proposes cutting $1.6 trillion in domestic discretionary spending over that same time period, as well as cuts to food stamp programs. 

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has found that because the GOP plan doesn't keep pace with the rising cost of health care, seniors would be paying an estimated 68 percent of their own insurance costs by 2030.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, the Republican architect of the proposal, said on the House floor that the plan "keeps America exceptional."

"It preserves its promise for the next generation," he said. "Colleagues this is our defining moment. We must choose this path to prosperity."

The bill is just an outline for spending, and would not be binding. (It also has virtually no chance to get through the Democrat-led Senate.) But it reflects the GOP firmly staking out its ideological position in the debate over how the United States should address its crushing deficit and debt.

Republicans are focused on reducing spending without increasing revenues - indeed, the House GOP plan actually lowers the top tax rate for corporations and individuals, though some (mostly non-specified) tax breaks would be eliminated. They argue that allowing individuals and businesses to keep more money will help grow the economy at a faster rate.

Mr. Obama cast the plan as "deeply pessimistic" in a speech Wednesday, suggesting that by scaling back the safety net created by entitlement programs it "would lead to a fundamentally different America than the one that we've known." His deficit reduction plan would reduce Medicare spending "by leveraging Medicare's purchasing power," cut Medicare spending $100 billion over a decade, cut military spending $400 billion over 12 years and allow the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans expire. He says the plan would save $4 trillion over 12 years.  Neither the president's plan nor the House GOP plan makes significant changes to Social Security.

"The House Republican plan places the burden of debt reduction on those who can least afford it, ends Medicare as we know it, and doubles health care costs for seniors in order to pay for more than a trillion dollars in tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires," White House press secretary Jay Carney said in a statement after the vote.

The national debt stands at nearly $14.3 trillion, and this year's budget deficit is projected to be $1.6 trillion. Neither the House GOP plan nor the Obama plan would balance budgets by 2020.

Democrats have zeroed in on the proposed changes to Medicare, which many political observers think will give the party an advantage in the 2012 election cycle. Before the vote, House Democrats rallied with seniors holding yellow signs reading, "Hands off my Medicare."

"I ask you what kind of a country are we that a majority - the new Republican majority - would throw our seniors under the bus in order to give more tax breaks to make the very rich, very, very, very rich," said Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL).

On the House floor, Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said that "unfortunately the president has failed to put a serious proposal on the table. And if the president won't lead, we will."

"No more kicking the can down the road, no more whistling past the graveyard," he said. "Now is the time to address the serious challenges that face the American people."

Countered House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, speaking on the House floor: "I want to say to my Republican colleagues -- do you realize that your leadership is asking to you cast a vote today to abolish Medicare as we know it? Because that is a vote that we have. This is not about an issue, this is about a value, this is about an ethic."

Before voting on the Ryan blueprint, House members voted on a Democratic substitute plan that would raise taxes on the wealthy and a plan from conservative Republicans with deeper cuts. Both plans failed. 

Shortly before the final vote, 12 protesters were arrested for singing and making a scene in the House gallery. One protester, who was in handcuffs, said the group wanted the government to protect "clean air" and not corporations.

The vote comes in the wake of a passage of an agreement to fund the government for the remaining six months of fiscal year 2011 that narrowly averted a government shutdown. Lawmakers are already gearing up for a major fight over raising the debt ceiling, with Republicans insisting on major spending cuts in exchange for their votes to raise the ceiling. 

House members quickly left Capitol Hill following the vote for a two-week recess.

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RobAla says:
You are correct, we get the government that we deserve because we vote it in. Unfortunately, we have a host of ignorant voters (or maybe I should say, uninformed voters). The problem with thinking that you can solve the deficit problem by simply taxing the so call "rich" and corporations is this:
1) Corporations don't pay taxes, they pass them down to the American people by increasing the price of goods and services provided. We pay ALL taxes.
2) Taxing the "rich", usually means that we are taxing the job producers. If a "rich" business owner has to use the money that would be used to hire another worker to pay increased taxes - then a job is lost. This means less jobs, and less people paying taxes into the government (unemployed people don't pay much in income tax).
3) Taxing the "rich" generates less business in the private sector economy. If a "rich" person has to use discretionary funds to pay taxes instead of buying products or services - then there is less business - and businesses need less workers. So goes the cycle of the unemployed not paying income tax.

With a $14 trillion national debt, and the fact that we are projected to go in the hole another $1.6 trillion this year, it is obvious that Americans have more federal government than we can afford. We must reduce the federal govern in both size and scope. We are in big trouble.

Nobody is trying to hurt the poor or middle wage earners, and nobody is out to kill Grandma - there are just 2 different lines of thought regarding how to pull this nation out of this horrible mess.

We have two concepts of deficit reduction here:
1) Paul Ryan's Plan: Cut government a lot, requiring far less revenue to run the government. Lower taxes on business, but get rid of the tax loopholes. This enables businesses to be more able to afford additional workers, and additional workers paying taxes will send more revenue to the government. It also diminishes the power of lobbyist to control government, and gives more power back to the people.

2) President Obama's Plan: Cut the federal government only a little, causing a greater need for revenue to run the government. Try to make up the ground by increasing taxes on businesses and those making more than $200,000. It will result in higher unemployment, and that means less people paying taxes. He just hopes to collect more from less people. Without getting rid of tax loopholes, it leaves the lobbyists in power in Washington.

My vote is for option 1. Paul Ryan's plan leaves the Medicare as it is for those 55 and over, but offers options to those younger. We HAVE to do something, as continuing what we are doing is UNSUSTAINABLE (says the CBO and President Obama's Deficit Commission).
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simpleconservative replies:
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Excellant synopsis, my vote is for option #1 as well. We must improve conditions for the productive class in order to increase revenues to the treasury!
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simpleconservative says:
The real issue here is that the savings achieved from by-passing a large federal work force to dole out payments is objectionable to the liberals. The reality is that more money would reach the actual recipients through the block grants and the competition inspired by private companies competing for premium dollars will tamp down rising costs of medicare. In addition folks who pay cash for healthcare services will not be penalized by the need for doctors and hospitals to charge $12.00 for an aspirin tablet just so that they can get a 20 cent reimbursement from medicare!
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theaffluentsociety2 replies:
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why do all other developed nations provide welfare states to their citizens? why do all other developed nations think that it is a given, that government should help provide for the less fortunate, as well as for the economically lucky/best workers? what 'competition' is there in the modern economy, where the banks are regulated, where the Fed and subsidiary banks make all the capital, where people are not self-sufficient, but dependant on social infrastructure like metro and highways? why do 'libertarian' GOP conservatives only care about cutting welfare spending, but dont ever think our military could use some trimming of the fat?
retm-w replies:
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Check insurance rates of differenty health insurers, there pretty much the exact same price, maybe a dollar or two different. There is no competition, insurance rates are fixed, hospital rates are fixed and doctors rates nare fixed. Try and go price shopping for those services in the area you live in.
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nearl451 says:
FUnny thing about budgets is how little they deliver in the yearthey define. This budget for 2012 doesn't deliver squat in 2012...but by 2022. Not unique; always the same game played.

The 2011 budget saves little in 2011.

Tax increases (or elapsed tax breaks, whatever) however, can have near immediate results. All of the Bush tax breaks retired would mean reducing thedeficitby 500 B in 2012 alone.
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jab232 says:
This is the United States of America. People get what they vote for. Those who want to see Medicare turned into a voucher system can vote for Republicans. Those who don't want that can vote for Democrats. The same with taxes. Those who want to see the very wealthy get even larger tax cuts can vote Republican. Those who believe one solution to the deficit is to raise taxes on the wealthy and large corporations can vote for Democrats. And, since this is the USA, we will all live with the results.
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RobAla replies:
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jab232: You are correct, we get the government that we deserve because we vote it in. Unfortunately, we have a host of ignorant voters (or maybe I should say, uninformed voters). The problem with thinking that you can solve the deficit problem by simply taxing the so call "rich" and corporations is this:
1) Corporations don't pay taxes, they pass them down to the American people by increasing the price of goods and services provided. We pay ALL taxes.
2) Taxing the "rich", usually means that we are taxing the job producers. If a "rich" business owner has to use the money that would be used to hire another worker to pay increased taxes - then a job is lost. This means less jobs, and less people paying taxes into the government (unemployed people don't pay much in income tax).
3) Taxing the "rich" generates less business in the private sector economy. If a "rich" person has to use discretionary funds to pay taxes instead of buying products or services - then there is less business - and businesses need less workers. So goes the cycle of the unemployed not paying income tax.

With a $14 trillion national debt, and the fact that we are projected to go in the hole another $1.6 trillion this year, it is obvious that Americans have more federal government than we can afford. We must reduce the federal govern in both size and scope. We are in big trouble.

Nobody is trying to hurt the poor or middle wage earners, and nobody is out to kill Grandma - there are just 2 different lines of thought regarding how to pull this nation out of this horrible mess.
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eddiewano says:
I think we should stop spending so much money on wars. The war on Iraq, afghanistan, the war on drugs. Sell drugs to druggies and use that money to pay back the debt. He he. But seriously, how many mexicans would be alive today if we were doing that???? Killing all these people is ruining the economy.
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RobAla says:
I guess Democrats think we can continue to spend like mindless morons. The CBO and President Obama's Deficit Commission both warn that what we have been doing is UNSUSTAINABLE. This must end. Paul Ryan has started the serious discussion as to what to do about this mess, about what must be done to salvage Medicare. Modified Medicare is better than no Medicare at all!

Thank you.
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retm-w replies:
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And we're supposed to believe ryan, one of the ones that got us into this mess. Same old thing from the republicans, take from the middle class, seniors and poor and give the rich more tax breaks and subsidies.
Trickle down economics and privatizing everything doesn't work, never has never will.
nearl451 replies:
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No. Rob. We Democrats realize that we need totax your butt more, especially considering that Iraq war you wanted.
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slatep says:
I'm beginning to think voting Republicans in in control of the House was a HUGE mistake.
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steeepe says:
Hooray for the rich! They need more tax breaks. After all, they can buy whatever they need and when they spend, we benefit. They don't need no stinkin' government. Shrink it down to nothing except defense and then privatize that, too. Pray for wealth, just like Jesus! Fly the flag over churches! Onward tea party Christian soldiers!! To the bank! Worship Wall Street, you suckers.
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slatep says:
Methinks Paul Ryan will soon need his own squad of bodyguards.
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eddiewano says:
Be careful america. Unregulated markets don't work in the modern world. They are unstable and cause massive depressions if left unattened. Look at the 30's.

Raising tax. Cutting spending.. All these are selling points for party politics. The biggest threat facing the world right now is another stock market crash. High oil prices did it before and they will do it again. Believe it.

Goldman sachs are saying that oil will fall in price right now, at the hight of their last bubble in 08 goldman said the price will go to $200 per barrell, two months later it was $50 per barrell. They have an evil knack of getting it backwards.

Regulate. Regulate. Regulate.

Don't take the speed limits off the roads, and don't let the markets rise so high that they have to crash back down to earth. Its not rocket science....
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