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Brian Montopoli /

CBS News/ February 11, 2011, 1:02 PM

Young Gay Conservatives Say Their Time has Come

20-year-old college student Kevin Zabel, a gay conservative, at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, Feb. 11, 2011.

/ Brian Montopoli

The music was blaring at a party for gay conservatives in Washington on Thursday night, and 22-year-old college student Matt Hissey was declaring victory.

Hissey had been asked about the decision by some social conservatives, including the Family Research Council and Sen. Jim DeMint, to boycott the Conservative Political Action Conference over the involvement of gay conservative group GOProud.

"The whole idea about conservatism is about individual freedom, individual liberty," said Hissey, a GOProud volunteer and a "very conservative" supporter of Sarah Palin. "And they have the total right to disagree with me, but who won the PR battle here? We did. So they are more than welcome to feel that way, and act upon it, and try to lobby their supporters, but they lost in the end."

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The scene at GOProud's booth at CPAC - a confab of 11,000 (mostly young) conservative activists that doubles as a cattle call for GOP presidential candidates - seemed to back up that assessment. A stream of participants walked up to the booth throughout the day to thank GOProud representatives for coming to the conference and, as Hissey put it, "for driving the wingnuts away."

To be sure, social conservatives remain a potent force within the conservative movement: Along with fiscal and national security conservatives, they form one of its three planks, according to the speaker who opened CPAC this year, Rep. Michele Bachmann. On Friday, a group called The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Prosperity was passing out literature explaining why gay marriage is 'harmful" and must be opposed; the American Principles Project, meanwhile, urged speakers to acknowledge that "social issues are fundamental to the fabric of conservatism and the character of our country."

GOProud describes itself as "committed to a traditional conservative agenda that emphasizes limited government, individual liberty, free markets and a confident foreign policy." Marriage questions, it says, should be left to states. In an interview Thursday, the group's executive director, Jimmy LaSalvia, said the social conservatives boycotting CPAC "have chosen to marginalize themselves out of the conservative movement."

"The groups that have chosen not to be here are the anti-gay for pay industry," he said. "They are the ones who raise money by demonizing gay people. And guess what? GOProud are conservative gay people. We are conservatives, we are proud conservatives, we have a solid conservative record, and they're not here because they can't demonize us."

The mood at the GOProud party Thursday night was triumphant; host Andrew Breitbart described the group's success at CPAC as a "turning point" for the conservative movement.

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"There are so many gay people that I've seen at the tea parties who are being doubly bold - there may be some social stigma still to being gay, but there is a bigger social stigma still to being gay and conservative in the gay community," he said. Breitbart said he stands with GOProud, saying, "people simply want to grant gay people their humanity - is that too much to ask for?"

Hissey said it isn't always easy being a gay conservative - but not because of the gay part.

Tyler Whitney, a 22-year-old gay conservative, at a GOProud party in Washington, Feb. 11, 2011.

/ Brian Montopoli

"If I go out to a gay bar or something like that I get completely eviscerated by the crowd, it's crazy," he said. "It's way harder to come out of the conservative closet at the gay bar than, like, out of the closet in general."

Former GOP chairman Michael Steele, who was also at the GOProud party, said he saw "a lot of very proud conservative Republicans who want to express themselves within their party, and we as a party should be very grateful that they want to do that, support that and allow that to happen."

Tyler Whitney, a gay 22-year-old supporter of libertarian-leaning Republican Gary Johnson, said he had seen a big change since he first came to CPAC six years ago. Whitney said there was a strong anti-gay undercurrent at his first CPAC grounded in a "very heavy emphasis on the religious right." Asked if he felt comfortable at that first conference, he said no.

"I felt that a lot of people there viewed me differently," he said. "I feel like I'm being more welcome in the conservative coalition now."

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"There will always be some people that are anti-gay," Whitney continued. "But those people are passing the torch to a newer generation, and the newer generation is definitely more socially tolerant." This year, in fact, the conference even has its first openly gay likely presidential candidate: Former Ronald Reagan consultant Fred Karger.

It's important to remember that CPAC is not the entire conservative movement - it's a group of mostly young activists with a far more libertarian bent than the movement as a whole. (The winner of last year's straw poll was Ron Paul.) And gay conservatives are decidedly not welcome at the Values Voters Summit, a social conservative conference that also attracts mainstream Republican presidential candidates.

The American Conservative Union, which sponsors CPAC, is quick to note that despite its decision to include GOProud as a participating organization, the group "has consistently adhered to traditional family values as our policy," in the words of incoming chairman Al Cardenas. That includes opposition to same-sex marriage. Cardenas also said Friday morning that "it's going to be difficult to continue the relationship" with GOProud in the future because some of the disparaging comments its leaders have made about conservatives who disagree with them.

CPAC chair David Keene says he doesn't have second thoughts about inviting GOProud, however. Any group that agrees with him on 80 percent of issues, he said, is good enough for him. He noted that past conference participants have differed with him on issues like earmarks, legalizing drugs and the Iraq war. "Any movement is a coalition of people," he said.

Kevin Zabel, a 20-year-old college senior and gay conservative, said he feels "completely comfortable" at CPAC.

"I'm a conservative, and to be in a place with 10,000 people who feel the same way is quite refreshing," he said. "I love capitalism, I love America."


Brian Montopoli is a senior political reporter for CBSNews.com. You can read more of his posts here.

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Quban75 says:
Just for being gay means you can't support the constitution of the USA, our founding principals, our military and our standard of living. With the sorry state of straight marriage & being a religious invention, I would be happy with domestic partnerships that include equal rights. I can't relate to the gay Democrats that without much studies adhere with Socialist & Communist principals of the Obama Administration which will limit their individual rights even more. Face it, Socialism is already a staple of this great country, just look at 75% of all American men having been circumcised without their consent at birth. However, we can fight back to regain our individual freedoms from this nanny state.
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ernestmac13 says:
The Republicans were all pro-Latino during the Bush election, they were even downplayed illegal immigration, now that Bush is no longer in office they have come on strong on the whole anti-immigration bandwagon. I say anti-immigration rather than anti-illegal immigration because, they don't seem to have an issue with all the illegals from other countries, who actually make up more than 50% of illegals, they have an issue with tan skinned people coming in illegally, yet they have no problem hiring them in their business, and their gardener, baby sitter, etc. These are the same folks who hire illegals on the farm, and just as the season ends, they call the INS so they can skip on paying the last pay check.
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slappy_mcghee says:
by klgrube1
And the fourth is social conservatism which holds to the basic Judeo Christian values on which our country was founded and on which the Constitution was formed.

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Sorry, but this country was specifically NOT founded on Christian values.

"The United States in is no sense founded upon the Christian religion." George Washington, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" - John Adams

"What has been Christianity's fruits? Superstition, bigotry, and persecution." --- James Madison

"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology." -- Thomas Jefferson

"I looked around for God's judgments, but saw no signs of them." - Ben Franklin

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth." -- Thomas Jefferson

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -- Thomas Paine

"I never once met a religious man who was not a brainless boor." - George Washington

"Revealed religion has no weight with me." Benjamin Franklin

"I do not find in Christianity one redeeming feature." Thomas Jefferson

"This could be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it." John Adams

"I disbelieve all holy men and holy books." Thomas Paine

"The Christian god is cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust." Thomas Jefferson

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson


SOCIAL conservatives are the scourge of freedom and liberty, klgrube.

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klgrube1 replies:
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I won't bore you with an entire set of quotes that clearly show the Founders' intent to base our government on their faith. There is a whole collection here:
http://www.afn.org/~govern/Christian_Nation.html But I will include just one from John Adams:

"The general Principles, on which the Fathers Atchieved Independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite . . . And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all those Sects were united: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.

Now I will avow, that I then believed, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."

Source: John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, June 28th, 1813, from Quincy. The Adams-Jefferson Letters: The
Complete Correspondence Between Thomas Jefferson and Abigail and John Adams, edited by Lester J. Cappon,
1988, the University of North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC, pp. 338-340.

This is such a beautiful statement of faith and its place in the founding of our country. Need I really say more?

It would be incorrect for anyone to say the principles upon which this nation was founded were anything other than having been gounded in the faith of the Framers of the Constitution: Madison, Adams, Jefferson, etc. . . . They all acknowledged their dependence on God for the success of this amazing and scary experiment in Government that had never been tried before.
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JWHII says:
Victory? Hardly.
The word is that GOProud is not going to be invited back next year. The new leadership has said that it will not allow them back.
The victory is with the true conservatives.
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hakori replies:
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JWHII, Yes the victory is with true bigots. Aren't you proud?
klgrube1 replies:
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They should have done that this year! I heard the same thing. That will probably mean booting Grover Norquist from the ACU Board of Directors, though, since he is also on the board of GOProud. They may also need to boot Suhail Khan, an Islamic activist, from the Board as well. How much more corrupt can this organization get? This conference is a sham! Seriously! I can't believe anyone with any real conservative values or even real political aspirations would be associated with it. How could they NOT know better?
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ANDROLOMA says:
Is this what could be called a hissey fit? Here's a better idea: why don't these "gay conservatives" (AKA double disgusting) stop being so heterophobic, so the majority of the population can stop being so homophobic?

"Gay conservatives" for the knee-slapping lulz. An extremely small minority wants legislative representation. What next, equal rights for Eskimos? If these events weren't so sad they might actually be funny.
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jimbom121 replies:
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Who says they are heterophobic? They just want the same rights as everyone else.
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Jaylah54 says:
Why in the world would any gay person support Sarah Palin? That makes about as much sense as poor people voting GOP.

" '...the group "has consistently adhered to traditional family values as our policy,' in the words of incoming chairman Al Cardenas. That includes opposition to same-sex marriage."

Why on earth would you support a group that openly insists on discriminating against you and denying you one of your basic rights as an American citizen?
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ANDROLOMA replies:
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It's heterophobia run riot!
retiredgustav replies:
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You would be suprised how many poor people vote for the gop because their preacher told them too or else they would burn forever. For someone poor and uneducated that is a very strong message.
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atomant59 says:
OOOOH olebasiclady: Your God cares!!! ask any right-wing family values republican christian about what happens behind closed doors. They'll tell you it is their business and it better not involve anyones behind!!!
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olebasiclady replies:
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Just trying to start something, atomat?
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atomant59 says:
klgrube1: You forgot the two most important sides to you conservative platform:

1. No Darkies in the front of the bus.

2. Separate water fountains and bathrooms for the racist, oops I mean races.
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olebasiclady replies:
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atomate59:

Funny. Obama is the only one whose has mentioned bus seating arrangements in the last 50 years. Now you. Both of you must be reverse racists.
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formrusmcsgt says:
Young Gay Conservatives Say Their Time has Come
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I'll be daed and cremated, and my donated organs will have worn out before the repubs ever embrace gays.
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formrusmcsgt replies:
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...make that "dead"....
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atomant59 says:
It must feel much the same as when Michael Steele is at the republican national convention. The republicans want your vote, but they hate your guts. Why are some people so ignorant as to align themselves with the group that would hang them from a tree if they could????
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formrusmcsgt replies:
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Like Hispanics...the repubs all jumped on the SB1070 bandwagon and then expect Hispanics to vote for them.

Absurd.
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