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CBS News/ September 14, 2010, 1:46 PM

Stephen Breyer Questions Right to Burn Quran

During an appearance on ABC's Good Morning America this morning, Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer addressed the recent controversy over a Florida pastor's plan to hold a Quran-burning rally on the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, saying he wasn't convinced the First Amendment would protect such an action if the case were brought to the court in the future.

"Holmes said it doesn't mean you can shout 'fire' in a crowded theater," Breyer told George Stephanopoulos during the GMA interview, referring to Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., who wrote the opinion in a 1919 Supreme Court decision that addressed Freedom of Speech. "Well, what is it? Why? Because people will be trampled to death. And what is the crowded theater today? What is the being trampled to death?"

Breyer, who was on the show to promote his new book, "Making Our Democracy Work: A Judge's View," said that questions about the changing definition of free speech in the internet age will "be answered over time in a series of cases which force people to think carefully."

"That's the virtue of cases," he said. "And not just cases. Cases produce briefs, briefs produce thought. Arguments are made. The judges sit back and think. And most importantly, when they decide, they have to write an opinion, and that opinion has to be based on reason. It isn't a fake."

"It's a 'rickety system,' Breyer added, but it has functioned "fairly well" so far.

Breyer also took the opportunity during his appearance to advise incoming Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan as to handling the pressures of her new job. "Of course, you're nervous. I mean, for quite awhile, your cases now -- they're going to be final. There's no one to appeal to," he said. "She will be nervous. But don't worry about it."

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stdragonsheep says:
This guy needs to be impeached. He has lost touch with American values enshrined in the Constitution and is no longer fit to sit as a judge.
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jpriddle69 says:
It is really unbelievable that a person would have a problem saying they know more than a Supreme Court justice. First of all, the Supreme Court, in many cases showed no knowledge of the Constitution. For example; Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton. Whether a person believes in the practice of abortion or not, the 9th and 10th Amendment clearly disallow the Federal government to be involved in the issue, Article III Sect II of the Constitution allows Congress to limit jurisdiction in these matters and finally, the Court can not make law. Thank God for the strong court in the 1930s that fought FDR's alphabet soup agencies.

The real problem is the justices probably know the truth but they lie. They are slick politicians. The Court is not the final word on the law and the states can nullify any illegal decision.
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Void-Master says:
by URunderarrest September 15, 2010 6:25 AM EDT

...You're trying to say you know more than a Supreme Court justice?...

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Yes.
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tsigili says:
It should be obvious from that statement, that he should not be sitting on the bench.
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abbe91 says:
by PatriotMike2 September 14, 2010 10:00 PM EDT
"I defy anyone to call burning the koran anything but political speech."

I fully agree with you. Political speech. With no doubt you will agree that a church doing so, expressing political speech, should lose its tax exemption status, right ?
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larrryshrine says:
His book is named "Making Our Democracy Work: A Judge's View." He is a Supreme Court justice and should know the law. And the law is that we live in a Constitutional Republic rather than a democracy. Hmmmmm.
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ffoulkes-2009 replies:
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Well, in this Republic, it is perfectly legal to burn a flag or a bible, or a statue of Budah or Christ. You can burn crosses, you can burn effigies...You just can't burn a koran...How does that make ANY sense?
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wdh3007 says:
A supreme court judge who doesn't know if burning the Quran is constitutional or not should not be a supreme court justice.
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p_syrus says:
"Holmes said it doesn't mean you can shout 'fire' in a crowded theater,"
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Frankly I'm disappointed in Breyer. It's a silly comparison to make. It merely gives comfort to those who would seek to have "the sacred" intrude into secular civil life.

The Holmes analog constitutes a situation apt to produce an immediate panic in uncertain & potentially dangerous circumstances with a likely result of pandemonium leading to a probable loss of lives. There is no deliberation, nor time for deliberate consideration of action, but simply a panic response resulting from uncertainty & a falsely implied threat.

The burning of any book, however distasteful & disrespectful it may be as an action, is simply an overblown statement symbolic of personal disapproval. Any "pandemonium" likely to result from it would be as a result of a deliberate and conscious campaign of disregard by those who disapprove of the right of another to express an "unpopular" or contrary viewpoint.

The deliberate suppression of a form of symbolic speech merely to prevent a likely resulting public furor over its unpopularity or the character of its message clearly constitutes a violation of protected speech.
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Void-Master says:
The only legitimate limit to any right is the one that exists naturally. A right stops only at the point wherein exercising it would inflict material harm upon another.

That does not include offending someone. Offending someone does not materially harm them. There is no right to not be offended. If there were then all behavior would be banned as there is always going to be someone who is offended.
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URunderarrest said: "You're trying to say you know more than a supreme court justice"

There you go again. Following your logic, that means you agree with all supreme court justices, no matter which side they may take on a controversial matter. Obviously, you are the one with limited mental abilities.
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Void-Master says:
From the story (regarding shouting "fire" in a crowded theater): "...Why? Because people will be trampled to death. And what is the crowded theater today?..."

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This logic assumes that the theater is not on fire. And if it actually is on fire, does that mean that no one would be trampled?

You see the flaw in this logic? The notion of imposing "reasonable limits" to any right is equally flawed.
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