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CBS News/ April 28, 2010, 4:32 PM

Conservatives Say "Don't Ask" Repeal Would Hurt Military Chaplains

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A group of social conservatives and retired military chaplains held a press conference in Washington today to argue that the repeal of the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy would have an adverse impact on the religious freedom and careers of military chaplains.

Allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the armed forces "steals from the chaplain their religious freedom," according to retired military chaplain Col. Rich Young. He argued that chaplains will be "muzzled" if the policy passes and that "soldiers and families [will] no longer have the benefit of the full council of God."

Participants at the press conference suggested that chaplains who oppose gay marriage and believe homosexuality is immoral might see their careers hurt and lose the ability to honestly counsel service members.

Jordan Lorence of the Alliance Defense Fund, a conservative Christian non-profit group, said that repeal would mean that military policy will for the first time be "at odds with the major tenets of the major religions represented in the armed services."

Allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly will "create a crisis of conscience for the chaplains," he said.

If the policy is repealed, it is unclear what, if any, direct effect there would be on military chaplains, who are not permitted to speak out on social issues under current policy. Participants at the press conference suggested conservative chaplains may not be able to be honest in marriage counseling or may feel compelled to leave the service.

Lorence suggested a change would reflect a lack of religious tolerance and mandate a "forced suppression to an orthodoxy that marriage can be defined differently or that certain sexual behaviors are ok and not immoral."

The sentiment at the event does not represent the beliefs of all military chaplains: Captain John F. Gundlach, a retired Navy Chaplain, said in a statement that military chaplains "routinely work with service members whose faith traditions and belief systems are different from ours." He is a member of a group of religious organizations backing repeal.

"The idea that repeal of DADT will infringe on our religious liberty is insulting to all the serving chaplains who professionally minister to and with people of diverse beliefs every day," he said. "It is time to realize that bigotry - not one's sexual orientation - is incompatible with military service. It's time for gay Americans to be able to serve our country proudly and openly, with continued courage, honor, and commitment."

The press conference today was organized in part by the socially conservative Family Research Council, whose president, Tony Perkins, complained in his remarks that he had been disinvited from a prayer luncheon at an Air Force Base because of his beliefs.

If the policy is changed, he said, "the approved gospel will be a politically correct gospel" and chaplains may be forced to counsel same-sex couples. He said the departure of chaplains as a result of the change could leave "an insurmountable void."

"Why would we ask these people to carry the burden of this administration's political agenda?" he asked.

Harry Knox, Religion and Faith Program Director of the gay-rights group Human Rights Campaign, countered that "forcing our men and women in uniform to lie about who they are goes against the core religious tenets of all major faith traditions."

"Telling the truth is an American and a religious value," he said.

The chaplains who held the press conference today sent a letter in conjunction with the event to President Obama and Defense Secretary Robert Gates laying out their case.

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T_J22 says:
when you say that an individual should not openly let know who they are, you the one that is stealing that person believes and freedom.. Intolerance of others is a form of prejudice and narrow mindedness.........
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freemind42 says:
Tell me again why our secular government's military even has army chaplains?
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cleric60 replies:
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Chaplains are for members of our nation's Armed Forces, who value their faith/beliefs/spirituality. I have ministered to members of Wicca faith tradition...very interesting visit.
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amphipoliss says:
If this poses a problem for Chaplins then they should just retire. How Christian is it anyway to treat others some way and then other another way? I guess the treatment of equality toward others is only something Jesus is capable of doing becasue he was indeed a god. Humans can't actually do that.
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HotSpit says:
First of all I don't care to know if you're gay or not, It's none of my business. It used to be shameful now it breeds arrogance. Don't give me this bunk that this should be considered as normal.
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GoodWolf replies:
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No, it's not the norm, but for those with a homosexual orientation, it's completely normal. I don't care about your bigoted value judgments.
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How arrogant!
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mikenyc2 says:
What kind of "chaplain" would demand that people lie? Don't Ask Don't Tell is simply a law that forces people to lie about who they are. I fail to see how lying upholds any religion's beliefs.
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ron64735 says:
You think there's a chance that the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell might force some of the more bigoted chaplains to leave the military? Sounds like a win-win to me.
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cleric60 says:
"Allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the armed forces "steals from the chaplain their religious freedom," First of all, armed force's chaplins are clinically trained NOT TO BRING their own personal or faith-tradition into the room of their patient or
pastoral care visit. Pastoral care is allowing the person being visited to be open about their own feelings, etc. It is NOT the chaplain's duty to "convert" or "change" the person, who they are visiting. They are TO LISTEN. I don't agree with the practice of homosexuality; but I honor and respect the person and that person's emotional and spiritual wellness.
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Zann-Zel replies:
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Well cleric once in a while we agree! : )
GoodWolf replies:
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Just for the record, homosexuality is not a "practice".
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mlgatheist says:
"Allowing gay men and women to serve openly in the armed forces "steals from the chaplain their religious freedom," according to retired military chaplain Col. Rich Young."

This is stupid, at best. This bigot and those like him can continue to believe whatever idiotic things that they want to believe. One can hope that the military will stop them from preaching hate and spreading homophobic ideas. But religious freedom means that you can believe what you want to believe.

Chaplains no longer preach against interracial marriage, even though there was a time that ultra conservatives preachers, especially in the south, did preach against it.

However, it is time that the US Government get completely out of religious pandering. Get rid of all chaplians, military and non-military. A soldier can find a civilian preacher, priest, imam, rabbi, etc. whenever they need one. We should not be using government money for this nonsense.
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CHReed replies:
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While I agree that repeal of DADT wont or shouldn't impact military chaplains your comment about getting rid of chaplains is out of line. Where exactly would a soldier in Afghanistan find a civilan Baptist pastor?
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stn_sage says:
Some people have WAY TOO MUCH time on their hands!
This is a specious argument, at best!
The same claim could be made regarding all the non-Christian and atheist military members who have served, are serving, and will serve, in the future!
Yet, this has never been a concern until now...huh?

With this activity, I'm left wondering, are ultra social Conservatives really interested in doing ANYTHING helpful for America, or just devoted to causing 'hate and discontent', trying to set one group against another, in the hope of running America down and turning it into a third world 'banana republic'?!
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SFer2010 says:
Gee, with the presence of atheists and agnostics in the troops somehow these chaplains are not going to be able to minister if there are gays too?

What a load of horse pucky.

What they're really afraid of is that the "insurmountable void" this siutation would create would be neither insurmountable nor a void.
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