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July 27, 2009 9:36 AM

In U.K. Military, Gay Pride Shines

By
Daniel Carty
Topics
Gays in the Military
While the U.S. adheres to a "don't ask, don't tell" policy toward gays in the military, its staunchest ally across the Atlantic is nine years removed from dramatically changing its own stance toward gay and lesbian service members – allowing completely open military service without fear of reprisal. And nearly a decade after the policy shift, the U.K.'s Independent reports the British military and its members have grown pretty comfortable in their own skin.

Openly gay service was allowed in 2000 after a two-year court battle involving four service members that was eventually settled by the European Court of Human Rights. Since then, the report details a steady progression toward fuller openness – from initial reluctance on the part of gay service members to "out" themselves, despite the rule change, to eventually marching in Gay Pride parades and moving into military housing with their partners.

And this month's cover of Soldier magazine, the British Army's official publication, features openly gay Trooper James Wharton next to the headline "Pride."

Perhaps most telling of the British Army's success is the fact that, according to the report, senior U.S. military officials are quietly holding talks with their U.K. counterparts on how to best end "don't ask, don't tell," which has seen more than 13,000 service members discharged since its inception.

President Barack Obama has faced pressure from the gay and lesbian community since taking office for not supporting homosexual issues – military service being just one – as fully as he pledged during his campaign.

Rep. Patrick Murphy, a Pennsylvania Democrat and Iraq war veteran, called for the repeal of the military's current "discriminatory" practice of "don't ask, don't tell" earlier this month, noting the Mr. Obama had pledged to sign such legislation if Congress were to act on it.

U.S. public support also appears to be strengthening. A Gallup poll in May found 69 percent of Americans support lifting the ban on gays in the military. But the military has been noncommittal on the issue.

In the U.K., the report notes the military has met the transition with "surprising ease," with the only resistance coming from older senior non-commissioned and warrant officers. Even then, discriminatory incidents have been rare, officials say.

"I would be lying if I say there was no bullying that happened but it is certainly less than other offences such as racial or sexual harassment," Lieutenant Colonel Colin Bulleid of the British Army Equality and Diversity Policy Branch told the Independent.

"There has been no overt homophobic hate wave. We occasionally get the odd prat who behaves inappropriately. But he gets stamped on when he gets found out. We have a reasonably good complaints system."

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by SJames6621 September 19, 2010 12:39 AM EDT
Anywhere but America.

America is a disgrace on the issue of loving and accepting our gay citizens. The whole rotten scene is due to two primary groups.

First is the catholic Hierarcy (totally separate from majority support for gays amongst the laity). We have a pope who grew up in Nazi Germany, and has said that gays will bring the end of humanity. A clear license for nut case religious zealots to go kill and in particular terrorize gay people into the ghetto closet of shame and fear.

And of course, this is the church of Adolph hitler still unexcommunciated. Who often talked about christian values, and had all his soldiers wearing a belt buckle saying in German "God is with us"

And the church that UNexcommunciated a bishop williamson, a holocaust denier.

And then there are the so called talibangelicals. They are the people who gave America slavery, the KKK, and then segregation. Who now have a new group to hate - the gays.

There are scads of good christians. but there are scads of christian churches that are the curse of humanity. It is as simple as that.
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by vuenbelvue July 30, 2009 3:58 PM EDT
Do a anonymous census of males and females in the military. The Pentagon should be able to devise one that would not let out information on any unit or person.
Hetero Male
Hetero Female
Bi Male
Bi Female
**** Male
**** Female
The 13,000 expelled from service may include people that used that as an excuse to get out of the service for whatever reason. Instead of accepting someone's numerical guess at the sexual identities of soldiers, for once and all actively ask all active and inactive members of all branches and all ranks. I hope this comment doesn't attract attacks and accusations. I would just think that if actual numbers were available this can be resolved.
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by TheMasses2009 July 27, 2009 12:20 PM EDT
Gays and Brits go hand in hand.

Hey, a pun!
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by mensarino July 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT
Good for the Brits.It is we who should be leading the way on this.It is sad that we have lagged behind due to petty prejudices and ignorance.
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by Proud2ServeUk July 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT
If anyone would like to find out more about how the British Armed Forces have taken the change in the law a decade ago in their stride, and how out and proud servicemen and women are serving alongside their US colleagues in Afghanistan on a daily basis, you could visit the Proud2Serve.net website and forum.

There are over 1000 registered users in our online community and support network, of whom the vast majority are currently serving in the Royal Navy, British Army and Royal Air Force.

www.proud2serve.net - serving Britain's Armed Forces
by cs4466 July 27, 2009 11:21 AM EDT
Just goes to show that the policy of Don't Ask, Don't Tell is discriminatory and unnecessary. Only the Religious Reich and the bigots stand in the way of civil equality for gay and lesbian Americans. The time has come to do away with this policy.
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