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December 9, 2007 4:42 PM

Paul Supporters Protest Giuliani

By
Joy Lin
Topics
Rudy Giuliani
(CBS)
From CBS News' Joy Lin

MIAMI -- "Fascist! Fascist!" shouted a handful of Ron Paul supporters at Rudy Giuliani as he left a hotel and got into his car.

Giuliani donned his signature grin while someone screamed at him and his staff, calling them "traitors to the constitution, all of you!" Another guy yelled, "Pathetic!"

"Sell-outs! Got to war, you hypocrites! Cowards! Where's your support? You don't have anybody!" one protestor continued.

That man was Frank Gonzalez, who noticed Giuliani's "suits" at the hotel entrance earlier while he and others picketed along the South Dixie Highway in Miami. Gonzalez, a self-proclaimed "Ron Paul Democrat" has unsuccessfully run for Congress three times.

What's the difference between a Ron Paul Democrat and a Ron Paul Republican? If there's no difference, is Ron Paul a Republican?

"Good question. What addresses that more than anything is the underlying philosophy," explained Gonzalez. "Ron Paul is, what they were calling until now, a Goldwater conservative, or a Ronald Reagan conservative, but the real definition of what Ron Paul is all about is libertarianism... By that definition, anyone can run, really, in either party – Ron Paul can run as a Republican, I ran as a Democrat, but our issues are identical, with very, very, very few exceptions." He listed abortion as one area of difference, although that could be resolved because Ron Paul believes the federal government "has no business" deciding whether abortion is legal or illegal.

By 3 p.m. – four hours before the debate was scheduled to begin – about 25 Ron Paul supporters were baking under the sun, holding up signs across the street from where the Univision debate would be held. Every minute or so, a car would honk as it passed by.

John Bulten and his wife Penny brought their two children – ages 2 and 7 – to the gathering, which had been organized via a MeetUp group.

Their daughter, Hannah, was wearing a Ron Paul t-shirt she had made as, her father said, "a home school project." Among the many Ron Paul tenets she had painted on the t-shirt were pictures of flowers, grass, and sunshine.

Bulten asked his daughter why Americans should vote for Ron Paul.

"Lower taxes, less government, more protection for our borders, and um…get our troops home" she said.

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by nomorewars December 12, 2007 6:57 PM EST
Ron Paul can win this one, giuliani is nothing more than a globalist and a facist ***.
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by gesshooo December 12, 2007 12:39 PM EST
Weather Ron Paul is a Republican, Democrat, or a rose by any other name, makes little difference. The ideas of freedom and liberty don''t need any other labels. These ideals will work regardless of your political party.
Addressing the underlying philosophy, as Frank stated, is the real question. The idea of small, non-intrusive government, freedom and liberty shouldn''t be pigeon holed into categories as REP. or DEM!
I''ve been a Ron Paul supporter for many years, and personally know Frank Gonzalez. One thing that we''ve always agreed upon is that our freedoms have been violated, and we want them back.
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by ronpaul09 December 11, 2007 8:49 AM EST
WHATS UP WITH PRIMARY QUESTION WITH KATIE COURIC NOT GIVING PAUL ANY AIR TIME YET? I KNOW SHE INTERVIEWED HIM.IF U NOTICE EVEN IN ALL THE WIDE SHOTS OF THE CANDIDATES HES CUT OFF NOT EVEN A PICTURE OF HIS FACE IN THE OPENING CREDITS.ALL OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES EXCEPT DR.PAUL.IS IT COLD IN HERE OR AM I JUST BEING PARANOID OR?..........
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by ronpaul09 December 11, 2007 8:47 AM EST
WHATS UP WITH PRIMARY QUESTION WITH KATIE COURIC NOT GIVING PAUL ANY AIR TIME YET? I KNOW SHE INTERVIEWED HIM.IF U NOTICE EVEN IN ALL THE WIDE SHOTS OF THE CANDIDATES HES CUT OFF NOT EVEN A PICTURE OF HIS FACE IN THE OPENING CREDITS.ALL OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES EXCEPT DR.PAUL.IS IT COLD IN HERE OR AM I JUST BEING PARANOID OR?..........
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by benmcclen December 10, 2007 7:17 PM EST
I notice CBS is not including Paul in the sidebar''s "browse topics" section. what''s up with that?

"BROWSE TOPICS
%u2022 John Edwards
%u2022 Fred Thompson
%u2022 Mike Huckabee
%u2022 Rudy Giuliani
%u2022 John McCain
%u2022 Mitt Romney
%u2022 Campaign ''08
%u2022 Barack Obama
%u2022 Hillary Clinton"
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by fiftytogo-2009 December 10, 2007 5:15 PM EST
I agree that it is hard to control your temper when confronted with a great big problem like fearing that the American Dream of Freedom could be all lost all by having the wrong person win the presidentil election. Oops! but the past speaks for it self, and they say that the truth cuts like a knife. I think it''s time for a change wake up America! Vote for Ron Paul!
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by fiftytogo-2009 December 10, 2007 4:55 PM EST
I think it''s a shame that the most news worth tidbit of information that Joy Lin could find to write about was the information that she choose. I do think that the American and I repeat the American people both young and old are quite bothered by America''s current polital system. We the people are wanting a change, we are tired of being sold and sold out to the world''s money changers. I understand these American''s that want Dr.Ron Paul to become the next Preident. What I don''t understand is any one that does''nt want Dr. Ron Paul to be the next Preident. Maybe Ms. Lin should report about how many nice Ron Paul people she saw that are trying to instill into their children a ray of hope into the world of chaos that they now live in called America.
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by gingerparti December 10, 2007 12:27 PM EST
"By 3 p.m. %u2013 four hours before the debate was scheduled to begin %u2013 "

So, Ron Paul supporters went to see a debate, not stalk 9udy 11uliani. You would scream "fascist" at 9udy, too, if you knew him as well as the NY fire dept or his own children. He is just not a likable guy, maybe because he''s a FASCIST.
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by wgaryjohnson December 10, 2007 9:38 AM EST
Is Ron Paul a Republican? Back in 1976 (when Giuliani was still a Democrat) Ron Paul was one of only six Republican congressmen to endorse the "unelectable" Ronald Reagan. Throughout history, there have been many "Ron Paul Republicans" including Rep. Charles A Lindbergh Sr., Rep. Howard Buffet, Sen. William E. Borah and Sen. Robert A. Taft.
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by akston-2009 December 10, 2007 5:31 AM EST
"We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don"t see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do."

- Rudolph Guiliani (source: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E2D9173CF933A15750C0A962958260)
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