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Brian Montopoli /

CNET/ October 21, 2008, 12:08 PM

Has Obama Camp "Attacked" Joe The Plumber?

In a speech in Pennsylvania this morning, John McCain said that Barack Obama and the Obama campaign have been attacking Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as "Joe the Plumber," the Ohio man whom McCain repeatedly referenced during the third presidential debate and has been citing on the campaign trail.

"Now, Joe didn't ask for Senator Obama to come to his house, and he didn't ask to be famous," McCain said. "And he certainly didn't ask for the political attacks on him from the Obama campaign." This prompted cheers from the crowd.

"Joe's dream is the American dream to own a small business that will create jobs, and the attacks on him are an attack on small businesses all over this nation," McCain added. "We're not going to stand for it."

Wurzelbacher has criticized the media for its treatment of him, suggesting that the press corps is worried about issues such as whether he's paid his taxes and "any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America." But asked on Fox News yesterday if he blamed either of the campaigns for how he was depicted, Wurzelbacher said he did not.

"Oh, no, no, I think the media pretty much did that all by themselves," he said. "You know, I don't think -- I held no animosity towards either of one them, by no means. No."

I asked the McCain campaign for specific examples of what it considered attacks on Wurzelbacher from Obama and the Obama campaign. "Their campaign has been moving dirt on Joe and their allies in the press and liberal blogs have been going after him," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in an email.

He also provided three examples of what he said were attacks. The first was Joe Biden's statement on the "Tonight Show" Friday that he doesn't "know many plumbers who are making $250,000 a year and worried about it."

"We're kind of worried about Joe the fireman, Joe the policeman, Joe the real plumber with a license," Biden added. As media reports have noted, Wurzelbacher does not have a plumbing license.

The second example provided by Rogers involved Biden saying last Thursday, "I don't have any 'Joe the Plumbers' in my neighborhood that make $250,000 a year and are worried." And the third came from Obama, who said on that same day, "How many plumbers do you know making $250,000 a year?"

In an interview after the presidential debate that made him famous, Wurzelbacher told CBS' Katie Couric that, despite his concerns that Obama would raise his taxes, he does not presently make $250,000 per year. Obama says in his administration, taxes would only go up for individuals making more than $250,000.

Obama-Biden spokesman Nick Shapiro told Horserace that McCain's claim is false.

"We're not criticizing Joe – in fact Senator Obama's plan would give him a tax cut – but we are criticizing John McCain's tax plan because it gives billions in tax cuts to corporations while offering no relief to more than 100 million middle class Americans," he said.

UPDATE: Obama responded to McCain's charges that he is attacking Joe the Plumber in Miami today, CBS' Maria Gavrilovic reports, calling the claim a fabrication. "I've got nothing but love for Joe the Plumber," Obama said. "That's why I want to give him a tax cut."
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butterflyxo says:
USA no1,
McCain is the one who keeps bringing up Joe the Plumber. It''s Joe the Plumber who says he doesn''t want publicity, yet he goes on Fox News. It''s McCain and Joe that keep this going, not Obama.
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coachjohnjr says:
When Obama and Biden attacked Joe the Plumber for asking a simple question they were sending a message to the working people of this country. If you even question our actions we will destroy you. Your voices will be heard when and where at our choosing.

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coachjohnjr says:
When Obama and Biden attacked Joe the Plumber for asking a simple question they were sending a message to the working people of this country. If you even question our actions we will destroy you. Your voices will be heard when and where at our choosing.

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christvote says:
Luvienne, do you know how Sarah Palin paid for her clothes? You don''t, do you. For all you know, she could have paid for them with her own hard earned money which would mean that how much her clothes costed is really none of your business! Do you really think Obama''s and Michelle''s clothes are cheap?! You''ll have to do better than that to turn me against Palin. She''s my hero and I just love and adore her. Bet that just pisses you off, doesn''t it.
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yvettegirl says:
palin is a root worker and she now it god please help obama
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lawgal1 says:
Or this one from WisdomFirst: Well, I don''t care what the hell happens in Iowa or anywhere else. I''m going to write Kucinich in for President if I have to. I no longer trust the Democrats (though I don''t mind Edwards), for one thing. But Kucinich is real, and I don''t care who wins.
Or this one from WisdomFirst: From Day 1, the "mainstream media" has fed us Clinton and Obama, as if no one else existed, and tried to make us believe these were the major candidates. How frightening it must be for all of you that there''s a candidate out there who''s not fake. No Democrat I know is voting for war zealot Hillary Clinton. Pure propaganda brought to us by the military industrial complex and filtered through you. Is the reason you''re in lockstep with the fascists that your life has been threatened? You guys are unAmerican and just disgusting.

Now, I think your WisdomFirst''s other posts speak volumes for his lack of credibility.

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lawgal1 says:
How about this one where WisdomFirst writes: ...I take it seriously because I think Cheney and his Voldemortonian followers realize that 9-11, anthrax and that Muhammed shooting spree (which in my opinion have U.S. black ops written all over them) were not enough of a fright fest for Americans, and that we need a fresh dose to keep us in line. The difference with this next performance is that they will implement martial law. I have no hope that this country will get back on any kind of legitimate footing. Americans are most definitely living in a matrix where most think we''re living in a democracy but where those outside the matrix pulling the strings are christofascists and care not a fig that we''re horrified they''re stealing our tax dollars and breaking laws with open abandon. I''m particularly concerned that Cheney will decide to launch his next terror performance in Chicago, since Blackwater has set up shop 100 miles south of here. I''d leave the country now if I could.
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lawgal1 says:
Well WisdomFirst. You are an avid blogger. And you are from Chicago Illinois, especially since you really like Flo''s restaurant on 1434 W. Chicago Avenue.

Found you over at newsvine 71 - Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT. (http://lynch.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/19/2017346-mccain-casts-himself-as-middle-class-guardian)

Found you also at buzzflash! Folks go over to this cite and pull these articles that WisdomFirst has also blogged on. Seems that he or she isn%u2019t being exactly forthright in who he is. You folks should go to this site http://www.buzzflash.net/user.php?login=WisdomFirst&view=commented and then click on the %u201Ccomments%u201D section of each piece that WisdomFirst has posted there.
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lawgal1 says:
Yes USA-no1. There are lots. I would suggest the National CASA organization or any of local CASA on the state level. I could also recommend anything having to do with the National Children''s Alliance or any of rape crisis advocacy centers. This is precisely how we make this world a better place.

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lawgal1 says:
Wisdomfirst,lawgal1 here. Since you are in the entertainment industry and make a million a year why not share with us WHO YOU ARE? This is what you wrote to me on 10/21 at 6:57 pm. You told me, a public interest lawyer for almost all of my career, a person who has done nothing but work with sexually and physically abused children, women, the elderly and disabled the following just because I disagree with you:

get together with MAXIFY55, pack your bags and BOTH of you move up to Canada. There you can alway bleed some other poor sucks dry financially with all the money you rob from them for you so-called "services." After all, YOU and all the other rich REPUBLICANS have been robbing the Middle Class Americans blind for the last 8 year so PLEASE MOVE OUT OF AMERICA AND BLEED SOMEONE ELSE DRY.

I am a fourth generation democrat which has broken with my party this election for good reason. 68K a year does not make me rich. Well, how much of your time and money have you contributed to the groups of victims above. I will bet none! How many times have you held the hand of a 10 year old who had been raped repeatedly over time and championed for her rights to be safe? I will bet never. How many times have you gone into court after a baby had been blinded, maimed or killed by vicious shaking? I will bet never. You are arrogant, and nasty. You exemplify why I can not vote my party line this election.
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