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CBS News/ January 13, 2011, 11:38 AM

Global Warming Prediction: Dire Outlook by Year 3000

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By Wynne Parry This story originally appeared on LiveScience.com

Even if humans stop producing excess carbon dioxide in 2100, the lingering effects of global warming could span the next millennia. The results? By the year 3000, global warming would be more than a hot topic -- the West Antarctic ice sheet could collapse, and global sea levels would rise by about 13 feet (4 meters), according to a new study.

Using a computer model, researchers looked at two scenarios - an end to humans' industrial carbon dioxide emissions by 2010 and by 2100 - stretched out to the year 3000.

Even if humans were to stop emitting excess carbon dioxide -- or if they figured out a way to completely capture it -- the effects of global warming would continue to accumulate. That's because previously emitted carbon dioxide lingers in the atmosphere and the oceans, unlike land, warm only gradually, according to one of the study researchers, Shawn Marshall, an associate professor of geography at the University of Calgary.

Carbon Dioxide Legacy

A number of gases contribute to global warming, among them carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide. The study focused on carbon dioxide, because it is the principal greenhouse gas, and it can linger in the atmosphere for centuries, according to Marshall.

"Some of the carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere this century will be there still 1,000 years from now," he said.

Marshall, lead researcher Nathan Gillett of the government agency Environment Canada, and their colleagues found that, by the year 3000, the brunt of the changes occurred in Southern Hemisphere. Not surprisingly, the 2100 scenario yielded more extreme results. In particular, the model predicted that southern oceans - the combined South Pacific, Atlantic and Indian Oceans, where the Antarctic Circumpolar Current resides - would warm considerably, with some far-reaching results.

North vs. South

The 2100 scenario highlights stark differences between the Northern and Southern hemispheres, according to Gillett.

In the north, "the changes, which will occur up to 2100, some of those will reverse partially, it will cool a little bit after 2100, the rainfall in high latitudes will tend to decrease," he said. "The biggest ongoing change is in the Southern Hemisphere."

This is because the Northern Hemisphere is covered primarily by land, which warms and cools more quickly than water. After emissions drop off, warming over land is expected to decline fairly quickly, Marshall said. Not so with water, which dominates the Southern Hemisphere.

The long-term warming seen there occurs because this century's elevated temperatures would continue to propagate into the oceans for many centuries, even after warming at the surface has eased, according to Marshall.

The researchers found that warming would be concentrated most the further from the equator (at higher latitudes) at ocean depths between 0.3 and 0.9 miles (0.5 and 1.5 kilometers). The model showed these waters would warm very little by 2100 -- but by 3000 they'd likely increase by 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit (3 degrees Celsius) in parts.

But this isn't the only factor that could contribute to southern warming. A deep current from the warmer North Atlantic is moving (and would continue to do so), slowly toward the Antarctic, carrying warmer water with it. In addition, intensified winds could help mix warm waters into the southern oceans, and finally, the loss of Antarctic sea ice would allow more heat to enter the ocean, Marshall told LiveScience in an e-mail.

The researchers found, however, that the Arctic sea ice has recovered from its losses by 3000.

While the 2010 scenario calls for a sea level rise of 9.1 inches (23 cm), the 2100 scenario would generate a sea level rise of more than 3.3 feet (1 m) due to the thermal expansion of the ocean. It's even possible the warming waters could reach the Antarctic ice, the researchers speculate. If so, the result could be the collapse of the West Antarctic ice sheet, which holds 500,000 cubic miles (2.2 million cubic kilometers) of ice. This would mean at least another 9.9 feet (3 m) of global sea level rise, according to the researchers.

If we stopped emitting carbon dioxide now, which would bring us close to the 2010 scenario, it's unlikely the ice sheet would collapse, Gillett said.

In addition, the simultaneous warming of the south and the cooling of north may cause the intertropical convergence zone - the region where the northeasterly and southeasterly trade winds converge, forming a band of clouds or thunderstorms near the equator - to shift southward. As a result, the drying predicted for North Africa could continue even after emissions are stopped in 2100, and the region could lose an additional 30 percent of its precipitation, according to the researchers.

Confirmation needed

While the legacy effect of carbon dioxide lingering in the atmosphere has been demonstrated by others, other research has yet to predict the warming of the high-latitude southern oceans, according to Gillett and Marshall.

"It would be really important to see this in some other climate models to see if they find the same result, because every model has its own set of uncertainties," Marshall said.

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The study was published online Jan. 9 in the journal Nature Geoscience.

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hakori says:
Louis, speaking of the Tides foundation, do you find it strange that the media hasn't spoken of the attempted massacre at the Tides foundation by Byron Williams? Do you find it strange that the media hasn't spoken of Byron Willians confession that his botched attempt was inspired by Glenn Beck? Or is this just another example of a vast left-wing conspiracy and none of this ever happened? Like climate change..... You're so confused.
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hakori says:
Louisville, it all makes sense now. Judging from your rant about the Tides foundation, it is apparent you are a Beckite. And Beck is as ignorant....sorry, Beck isn't ignorant, he propogates ignorance cloaked in corporate propaganda....as you. Tell me, what happens to all the CO2 going into that atmosphere? What effect does it have on climate? Does it have any? What effect does the increasing levels of methane, which is twenty times as potent at trapping heat as CO2, being release from melting permafrost and Artic sea floor have on our planet? You and those who belive as you can't answer that because if you did, you'd have to admit you're wrong. This isn't a partisan issue, but the corporate owned GOP has made it one and you just buy it. I would say that's your problem, but it isn't; it effects us all and those like you will go to your graves denying climate change is real even as the emperical evidence mounts. All the while the planet that allows us to live is slowly becoming unfit for human habitation. Your blinders are killing us all, but do you care? Of course not because you're a conservative and conservatives are never wrong. Why don't you debated with us about the sky being purple, because that's no more ridiculous as your belief that climate change is some left-wing conspiracy. And by the way, do you have any life other than posting on CBS message boards? I'm not here that often, but every time I'm here so are you. Maybe the new conservative House should take away your govment check so your can be a productive member of society.
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troutfishyman says:
Adios! Stay out of sight, and keep your powder dry! Watch out for the black helicopters! Good luck!
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troutfishyman says:
Hey lou, your life is in danger with this terrible knowledge! How is your ammo supply?
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troutfishyman says:
WOW! So the "Tides Foundation" has managed to buy off all the scientific agencies and organizations on the planet! They are the mysterious SOMEONE behind the climate fraud!

But now my life may be in danger. I need to go buy weapons and ammunition, lots of ammunition. Hide in the woods until Glenn Beck brings these bastards DOWN with his chalkboard!
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troutfishyman says:
by louiville12 January 14, 2011 3:48 PM EST
It's well into the billions of dollars they take in where does that money go??? Goes out to people Like AL who then beat the drum to get more fear going which brings in more money..... Any guesses? well start here http://www.activistcash.com/



Damm!!! Even the non-profits are all corrupt liars too!! Them and all those stinking climate scientists!

Who else? This is a real eye opener for me!!!!
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troutfishyman says:
I plan on buying a yacht and sailing the Caribbean with my billions. How about you?
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troutfishyman says:
by louiville12 January 14, 2011 3:34 PM EST
Can you cite a paper that proves AGW that as it's credits does not include research by Mann? I've looked at about 60 papers (out of thousands) but they ALL used his proxy data.




Lou, you are absolutely right. They are all lying frauds, all paid off by that mysterious SOMEONE. Wait till we catch that SOMEONE, then we can also demand billions of dollars to keep quite about the global conspiracy!
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troutfishyman says:
by louiville12 January 14, 2011 3:39 PM EST
Have you seen how much greenpeace, wwf, sierra club,.... rake in every year would make a oil company blush. It's a billion dollar industry even earth first got into putting up windmills and collecting government offsets.




Really??? So your new claim is that these non-profit organizations make more money than the oil companies?
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troutfishyman says:
Come on, lou! There are literally hundreds of climate scientists left for you to slander! Get hopping!
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I did? When did that happen?
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