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Lloyd de Vries /

CBS/ February 11, 2009, 4:51 PM

Outsourcing Gone Wild

Over the last several years, we've all had to accept the reality of outsourcing and offshoring — dealing with companies who hire cheaper labor either in different parts of the country or in foreign lands. It's up to economists, labor experts, and human rights specialists to debate the merits of outsourcing. But it's in the scope of my job to cry out when outsourcing has gone just a little wacky. The editor and publisher of a Web site devoted to the local news of Pasadena, Calif., has hired journalists in India to write news stories about Pasadena. Wacky enough for you?

James Macpherson of Pasadena has hired two reporters in India to cover local news, especially the Pasadena City Council. He says he was able to hire these Indian journalists for less money than if he had hired local journalists. In other words, he got people cheaper than if he had hired reporters who would actually live in Pasadena, talk to residents, and attend the Council meetings. No kidding. If I bought a bicycle instead of a car, it would be cheaper. But they're not the same thing, Macpherson.

I'm sure the journalists he hired are qualified, but I don't think having them watch the Webcast of the city council meetings 9,000 miles away will result in the same kind of stories that reporters would write if they actually attended the meetings — or were in the same city — or at least the same time zone.

As strange as this Pasadena development is, I'm not all that surprised. It was only a matter of time before we had "virtual outsourcing."

People play chess, poker, and Scrabble online with people they've never seen. I don't get it. Part of the fun for me when I play a game is being with and talking to the people I'm playing with — seeing them curse or gloat or demand an even bigger dictionary to look up the word they just invented.

But that's not the way things are heading. Another example of virtual outsourcing is a company called "Growing Stars." They use relatively inexpensive tutors in India to help students in America with their schoolwork.

The American student comes home from school, goes online, then the tutor who is in India at his or her computer helps the kid with his work. The results might be great, but I just wonder if this is as good of an experience as one in which the tutor is actually with the kid when he makes a face at a hard math problem, or when he doodles in his notebook, "I hate homework" or "Marci's hot." And while we're on the subject of getting used to the weird world of today, one of the subjects that these Indian tutors help American kids with is English.

It's obvious that virtual outsourcing is going to get bigger and bigger in the future. If you think your doctor charges too much, maybe soon you'll be able to hire foreign doctors online. Do you really need an expensive American doctor to tell you to put heat on your sore back, to exercise more and eat less, or that if it lasts for more than four hours, you should seek immediate medical help?

Those who blame politicians for outsourcing might be able to turn the tables on them. Let's say you're unhappy with your senator, or even your president. Maybe someday, you'll be able to outsource elected officials. You'll find somebody online that you think will serve you and the country better who just happens to live in another part of the world.

Even though I see things as moving more and more into a virtual world connected by computers, I don't have to like it. I think people should have more human contact, not less. For some things, I still believe that actually being there to see and hear the people you're dealing with is better than "virtually" being there. I mean, even though it's not practical, instead of just reading my column, wouldn't you like it better if I were right there in the room with you, giving you my opinions out loud? OK, bad example. But you get what I mean.




Lloyd Garver has written for many television shows, ranging from "Sesame Street" to "Family Ties" to "Frasier." He has also read many books, some of them ghostwritten (the literary equivalent of outsourcing).

By Lloyd Garver
Copyright 2009 CBS. All rights reserved.
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lilvinnyb says:
Its very simple, refuse to do business with companies that outsource. I go out of my way to use services and buy products from companies that do not outsource. I will never buy another Dell Computer for instance.
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jetranger7 says:
WELL THE HERSHEY CANDY MAKER OF CHOCOLATE AND OTHER GOODIES IS GOING TO BE SHUTTING DOWN SOME OF ITS PLANTS HERE IN THE US, AND RE-OPEN OR BUILD PLANTS IN,, INDIA, CHINA, AND MEXICO,, TO MAKE THEIR CHOCOLATE CANDY OR WHATEVER AND THEN SHIP AND SELL IT OVER HERE TO US NAIVE AND DUMB AMERICANS,, WHO'LL BUY IT AT THE SAME PRICE OR MORE!!! SO IF THEY MOVE OVER THERE TO MAKE IT CHEAPER AND HIRE CHEAPER LABOR, HOW IS IT WE ALMOST NEVER GET A BREAK ON THESE GOODS MADE OVERSEAS WHEN IT IS PUT ON THE MARKET BACK HERE FOR US TO BUY ????? LOOKS TO ME LIKE ITS ALL SMOKE & MIRRORS AND HUGE PROFITS FOR CORPORATIONS TO MAKE PROFITS, WHILE LAYING OFF AMERICAN WORKERS, WHAT SO AMERICAN ABOUT THAT ???? HERE WE HAVE SOLDIERS RISKING THEIR LIVES EVERYDAY SUPPOSEDLY FOR THIS COUNTRY, AND YET WE HAVE GREEDY CEOs WHO WOULD RATHER MOVE THEIR BUSINESS OVER SEAS,LAY OFF AMERICANS, AND THEN CLAIM,, THEY SUPPORT OUR TROOPS,, WHAT A PATHETIC JOKE !!
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roger3815 says:
I guess it's personal when it hits your own industry. Of course, you're a little late to the decrying party. The WSJ and AP have been outsourcing reporting for over a year now. However, I'm not the symptomatic. Certainly not after I saw how many journalist were all for the relaxed FCC rules on media ownership. Talk about cutting off your own hand. Once these media giants start merging the first thing they're going to do is start outsourcing and cutting jobs. As far as I concerned, you guys are getting what you deserve for your lax performance.
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tbweb says:
ianlou wrote:

I wonder why Americans haven't raised a bigger stink over the intentionally poisoned Chinese food products imported to us in dog food and some people food.
Posted by ianlou at 04:25 PM : May 16, 2007

They ate the first batch and are no longer with us!
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consciousnes says:
Maybe if American journalist would write the FACTS instead of hyping and distorting everything, including their salaries this wouldn't be happening.
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beanerman4 says:
"The editor and publisher of a Web site devoted to the local news of Pasadena, Calif., has hired journalists in India to write news stories about Pasadena."

What a joke. Except not funny. I agree with you Oleander8 although I think I need a nice long vacation (which I haven't had in many years) to somewhere like Northern Canada.
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eggy1620 says:
You all are crying about the disappearing middle class. Are you not the same political demographic who 10 years ago were crying about the wealthy industrialized west ignoring the poverty rampant in the developing world? Poverty in these nations is solved only through direct foreign business investment. The operations of manufacturing plants and office parks in Mazatlan, Bangalore, and Nairobi is lifiting huge amounts of people out of poverty. Heck, the same thing happened here two and a half centuries ago. England was a manufacturing and textiles powerhouse, until some enterprising Brits decided to build some factories in Maine, Massachussets, and New Hampshire. When money is invested in new markets, the value of existing markets is diluted. The left has been saying sacrafices must be made to help the developing world. Now you are all complaining about actually having to make those sacrafices.
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How could you tell a parent to pay 5 times more for tutoring for their child? Tell someone with a website that they have to pay 3 times more ($36000 instead of $12000) to transcribe videos just because you'd rather have an American do it? I've read that that website has now decided not to hire the Indians because of the negative responses. Only four people work on this site, so why do you care so much who he hires? Are people willing to send him $30000 per year so he can hire only Americans? He should have kept the Indian workers. What next, tell Walmart not to use Chinese products? We will keep putting our money where our mouths are, so the complainers will have to get used to it, since this is only the beginning of globalization.
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king77shaw says:
STOP INVESTING YOUR MONEY ON WALL STREET: %u201Cwhat ?%u201D you may say %u201Cit%u2019s doing so well%u201D %u2026 there%u2019s a reason why it%u2019s doing so well; corporate America is selling out the American middle class to the lowest global bidder and using our own money to do it; let%u2019s face it, the financial markets will push for anything that increases profits - even war; especially war %u2026 which is why the stock market is at record highs while the middle east is in utter chaos; this is by design, not accident%u2026. best to invest your money in land, real estate or gold and silver%u2026

SUPPORT LOCAL ECONOMIES !

if possible, BURN WOOD for heat;
GROW YOUR OWN FOOD or support local growers;
implement alternative energy sources (solar, hybrid autos etc ..)

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if we want to reclaim our democracy it will take small actions by many %u2026 and with some sacrifice - empower yourselves, not the multi-national corporations who are destroying the American way of life !
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king77shaw says:
2) STOP INVESTING YOUR MONEY ON WALL STREET: %u201Cwhat ?%u201D you may say %u201Cit%u2019s doing so well%u201D %u2026 there%u2019s a reason why it%u2019s doing so well; corporate America is selling out the American middle class to the lowest global bidder and using our own money to do it; let%u2019s face it, the financial markets will push for anything that increases profits - even war; especially war %u2026 which is why the stock market is at record highs while the middle east is in utter chaos; this is by design, not accident%u2026. best to invest your money in land, real estate or gold and silver%u2026 SUPPORT LOCAL ECONOMIES !

if we want to reclaim our democracy it will take small actions by many %u2026 and with some sacrifice - empower yourselves, not the multi-national corporations who are destroying the American way of life !
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