"Face the Nation" transcripts January 27, 2013: Feinstein, Kelly, Gingrich, Blackburn
(CBS News) Below is a transcript of "Face the Nation" on January 27, 2013, hosted by CBS News' Bob Schieffer. Guests include Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Cal., New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and a panel featuring Obama 2012 deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter, Romney adviser Kevin Madden, David Ignatius of the Washington Post, and David Sanger of the New York Times.
BOB SCHIEFFER: Today on "Face the Nation," another inaugural is history. The president laid out an ambitious agenda, but can the Washington gridlock be broken? In one stroke the administration reversed the policy barring women in the military from combat units. But another priority - strengthening gun laws - will be much harder.
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D-CA): These weapons do not belong on the streets of our towns, our cities, in our schools, in our malls, in our workplaces, in our movie theatres - enough is enough.
SCHIEFFER: Almost 20 years ago, California Democrat Dianne Feinstein pushed an assault weapons ban through Congress - can she do it again? And is it the answer? She's with us this morning along with New York City's top cop, Ray Kelly. As the president begins his second term, Republicans are rethinking who they are and where they go from here.
REP. PAUL RYAN (R-WI): We can't get rattled. We won't play the villain in his morality plays. We have to stay united.
SCHIEFFER: We'll hear more on that from former Republican speaker Newt Gingrich, Tennessee Republican Representative Marsha Blackburn. For analysis, we'll bring in David Ignatius of the Washington Post, David Sanger of the New York Times, and from campaign 2012, Obama adviser Stephanie Cutter and Romney adviser Kevin Madden, back to face off one more time. Because this is "Face the Nation."
SCHIEFFER: And good morning again. California's Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein is joining us in the studio this morning. Senator, you introduced this legislation Friday to ban assault weapons, reinstate the ban. You got this passed once before. It was uphill all the way. You can see this time it's going to be uphill, but why do you think you can get it passed?
FEINSTEIN: Well, I think I can get it passed because the American people are very much for it. There's a new poll out, 50,000 people in the field, 68 percent supportive of a ban on assault weapons. I think what happens is that you have one group, namely the National Rifle Association, that has such a pronounced view that dominates the arena. But we have the United States Conference of Mayors. We have the major city chiefs. We have the largest police organization in the world supporting us. We have individual chiefs and sheriffs. We have pediatricians, trauma room -- trauma room surgeons, teachers -- you name it -- all the way down. We have the clergy. We had the dean of the National Cathedral launch this and talk about the effort that he's going to put together among clergy of all types and sects and religions in the United States to support this. This is an uphill climb. It is a slightly -- it is a different bill than I introduced. We go from two physical characteristics in the definition of an assault weapon to one. We ban 158 specific guns by make and model. We grandfather 2,200 weapons by make and model that are rifles, shotguns, pistols used for recreation, defense, hunting. We ban clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets, prohibit their manufacture, their sale, their transfer. We are different from the New York state law. We do not require registration of grandfathered weapons. In that regard, we are also different from the California law. In a sense, it's a little more moderate in that regard because the gun organizations regard registration as, quote, "the first step to confiscation."
SCHIEFFER: But when you -- when somebody sells one of these guns that they may have now, or gives it to someone else...
FEINSTEIN: We require a full background check of the transferee, the person to whom the gun is transferred.
SCHIEFFER: Do you think that the NRA is now more or less powerful than it was 20 years ago when you passed this legislation?
FEINSTEIN: Well, I think they're equally as powerful. They're now supported by a lot of the gun manufacturers. They've certainly extended their arm. This morning's front page story in the New York Times tells about their efforts to provide training and weapons to youngsters, eight to 15-year-olds. As a matter of fact, I saw a very young youngster with an AR-15 in the newspaper this morning. That's the same type weapon that was used at Sandy Hook school. I know what happened to the bodies at Sandy Hook school. And to have these weapons just floating around our society and particularly with youngsters who are by nature unpredictable is a bit frightening.
SCHIEFFER: Let me ask you this. Some people clearly see -- and I think they're sincere about it -- that they just feel this infringes on their rights and that this is the first step to taking their gun away from them.
FEINSTEIN: Well, let me talk about rights for a minute. Does a child have a right to be safe in school? Does a law client, when he goes into a law firm, have a right to believe he's safe? Does a shopper in a mall have a right to believe that she's safe? I think so. And what's been happening, as these incidents happen -- look at Aurora, people sitting in a theater. Somebody with 100 rounds in a drum came in and just mowed down people. Do people going to movies have a right to be safe? You want to talk about rights, talk about the rights of the majority, too.
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