"Face the Nation" transcripts, July 22, 2012: Aurora mayor and police chief, mayor Bloomberg, PM Netanyahu
DANIEL OATES: I'm doing fine. I can't tell you how proud I am of everybody in this department and what they've done. And this touches all of us. I-- I know any number of friends whose children were at a Batman premiere that night. Young kids were very excited to see the movie. And I mentioned that my daughter was at one of the other theaters in Aurora and there is probably about five-- five friends of mine had the same reaction, the same experience. And it could have happened to any of us. And-- and, unfortunately, the way America is today, could have happened to any parent anywhere in the country. And that's-- that's the perverse thing about this and-- and something we as a nation have to deal with.
JOHN MILLER: Chief Daniel Oates, thank you for joining us this morning. Bob.
BOB SCHIEFFER: And thank you, John.
John will be back later in the broadcast to talk some more about this. Chief Oates, may I also take this opportunity to say thank you and to congratulate you on the very professional way that your department is handling this situation that nobody wants to be confronted with. We-- we all appreciate it and we thank you.
DANIEL OATES: Thank you.
BOB SCHIEFFER: I want to turn now to Bob Orr, our Justice Department correspondent. Bob, you just heard the Chief. You've been checking with federal sources. What do you have to add?
BOB ORR (CBS News Justice Correspondent): Bob, first of all, the Chief was modest. I don't think he really gave us all the details of what the great work that's been done on the ground has produced. The police there along with the federal partners have amassed a substantial case of evidence already. That this was a premeditated act of murder and the planning goes back about four months. They've recovered things like shipping labels from a dumpster in front of Holmes's apartment. They've got credit card records. They know he shopped at internet sites like BulkAmmo.com, TacticalGear.com. They have a surveillance tape of Holmes allegedly picking up a hundred and sixty pounds of ammunition at a FedEx counter in Colorado. And they also have talked to a UPS driver that says, "Oh, I remember this guy. He had ninety packages delivered to him in his work address."
So all of this evidence and the fact that they found him with four guns, they know where the guns came from-- they have built a substantial criminal case, and whether he cooperates or not is immaterial. They have got this thing nailed cold. They're still trying to find motive. That's the big thing.
BOB SCHIEFFER: And, Bob, we'll be back later as well as we continue on this. Bob Orr, thank you very much.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is at CBS News headquarters in New York. Mister Mayor, thank you. Both the President and Governor Romney have expressed sympathy to the people in Colorado this morning. What else would you like to hear from them?
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG (New York City Mayor): Well, expressing sympathy is-- is nice and it's a horrible tragedy and I know everybody in this country, everybody around the world, their hearts and prayers go out to the families, but somebody's got to do something about this and this requires--and particularly in a presidential year--the candidates for President of the United States to stand up and once and for all say, yes, they feel terrible. Yes, it's a tragedy. Yes, we have great sympathy for the families but it's time for this country to do something. And that's the job of the President of the United States. And I don't know what they're going to do. But I think it's incumbent on them to tell us specifically, not just in broad terms.
You know, Governor Romney, when he was governor of Massachusetts, actually passed a ban on assault weapons. And President Obama, when he came into office in 2008, said he would reinstitute the ban, the federal ban on assault weapons, and the governor has, apparently, changed his views, and the President has spent the last three years trying to avoid the issue or if he's facing it. I don't know anybody that's seen him face it. And it's time for both of them to be called-- held accountable. You know we spend all our time talking about tax returns and gaffes and things like that. This is one of those issues, along with a handful of others that really matter to the American public. It matters to the future of our country. It matters to you and me and to our children and grandchildren. And it's time, I think, that we hold them accountable, and say, "Okay, you want our votes, what are you going to do?"
BOB SCHIEFFER: Well, why do you think they have not said anything? Is this because of the power of the National Rifle Association and its lobby? Is-- is that why we're not hearing from them in your view?
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG: Well, you know, they have to explain themselves as to why, and I shouldn't be putting words in their mouths. I don't know what their motives are. The NRA is an organization that is adamant about no controls on weapons in spite of the fact that we have federal laws that say you cannot sell guns to minors, to people with psychiatric problems, or drug problems or convicted felons. And yet they pressure Congress and the White House--and they've been doing it for decades--to not fund enforcement of those laws.
We don't need more laws. We need a couple of fixes. There's a loophole where you can sell guns without a background check at a gun show, forty percent of guns are sold that way, same thing on the internet. We need to fix the fact that states are supposed to send records into the central database of who has psychiatric problems and who is convicted because when somebody sells a gun, they've got to check the database, and if there's no data in it, it wouldn't do any good. The NRA has opposed anything. And if you do a survey it's interesting eighty percent of the NRA members say, for example, that the federal laws on guns should be enforced and that we should stop all this closing our eyes and-- and letting people go and buy guns, you know, there are-- there are guns that are advertised on the internet--.50-caliber rifle, and it says, "able to bring down a commercial jetliner at a mile and a half" or "armor-piercing bullets." Last time I saw a deer wearing a bulletproof vest was a long time ago.
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