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Lindsey Boerma /

CBS News/ February 3, 2013, 5:30 PM

Obama: "No doubt" more revenue still needed

One month after signing into law a "fiscal cliff" deal upping taxes on American families making more than $450,000 a year, President Obama said today there's "no doubt" additional revenue is needed to bring down the U.S. deficit, but believes lawmakers can do it "without raising taxes again."

"I don't think the issue right now is raising rates," the president said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley. "There's no doubt we need additional revenue, coupled with smart, spending reductions in order to bring down our deficit. And we can do it in a gradual way so that it doesn't have a huge impact."

Rather than raising taxes, the president proposed gutting government waste, reforming health care - "we spend a lot more on health care than any other country does, and we don't get better outcomes," he said - and closing loopholes that he suggested allow wealthy Americans to manipulate their tax rates.

"Can we close loopholes and deductions that folks who are well connected, and have a lot of accountants and lawyers, can take advantage of, so they end up paying lower rates than say, a bus driver or a cop?" Mr. Obama asked. "The average person can't take advantage of them.

"The average person doesn't have access to Cayman Island accounts," the president continued, in what may have been a punch at 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney's "tax haven" in the Caribbean. "The average person doesn't have access to 'carried interest income,' where they end up paying a much lower rate on billions of dollars that they've earned.

"...We just want to make sure that the whole system is fair, that it's transparent, and that we're reducing our deficit in a way that doesn't hamper growth reduce the kinds of strategies that we need," he concluded.

Earlier this week, a new GDP report showed the U.S. economy shrank 0.1 percent in the fourth quarter of 2012. Mr. Obama reasoned that a sudden drop in defense spending amid the so-called "fiscal cliff" was to blame, and called on Congress to act to avert a series of automatic spending cuts set to trigger in March.

"Washington cannot continually operate under a cloud of crisis," he said. "That freezes up consumers, it gets businesses worried. We can't afford these self-inflicted wounds. There is a way for us to solve these budget problems in a responsible way, through a balanced approach... if we do that, there's no reason why we can't have really strong growth in 2013."

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Tank_Commander says:
I guess all the drunken sailers on leave with credit cards woke up with hangovers. They want to party some more with our money (which we don't have). More pork! Oink!
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nearl451 says:
Obama is wrong about not needing new or more taxes.

We can certainly balance the budget with spending cuts and filling loopholes (some modicum).

However, we cannot hope to pay for past wars and 16T in PAST debt with austerity measures, nor by magical economic growth. Even in great gworth spurts, without higher taxes, debt tends to increase. Look at the magical growth during the Reagan term. Deficits and debt blew out of proportion, but no one cared. This is one reason why Cheney claimed that no one cares about the debt.

Frankly, we had no business thinking that we could wage wars and cut taxes at the same time. Other unsustainable spending and tax relaxation decisions were made as well.
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masterzvoice says:
Why do we need more revenue than last year if they are making spending cuts? Or are they lying to us?
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Type_Z says:
Enough Obama. You have enough.
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taylorsucram says:
Once again, the ONLY Republican in recent history to balance the budget was Dwight D. Eisenhower. How did he do it? He had a top tax rate on millionaires and billionaires of 91% and they still bought Mansions, Yachts and Rolls Royces.

Now if we also cut Military Spending by 1/3 we would still spend almost twice what every other Nation in the world spends on defense.
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Cowmpound replies:
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But DE was the last republican to balance the budget.
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Type_Z says:
Pass a budget, quit spending, leave alone.
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Type_Z replies:
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( leave us alone )

Really, leave us alone.
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arthanyel says:
It is amazing that conservatives refuse to take responsibility for their own actions, and try to blame Obama for things he has never done.

When Obama took office the deficit was at $1.1T due to a combination of REPUBLICAN actions (cutting taxes, increasing defense spending, increasing unfunded requirements on medical care (Medicare part D) and education *No Child Left behind). Obama and the Democrats have barely touched spending - in FACT the Obama administration has had the smallest change in government spending since Eisenhower.

And that's totally ignoring the fact the PRESIDENT doesn't spend a dime - the CONGRESS is responsible for all spending and taxation.

Bottom line - fully 75% of the ENTIRE DEBT is due to Republicans lowering taxes and increasing defense spending. Therefore when Obama says "the solution to the dent and deficit will require more revenue" he is just stating the obvious - and the truth. And if Republicans would stop blocking all revenue increases and all defense cuts then we might be able to balance the budget - but as long as they refuse, it can't be done without sacrificing the poor, the old and the sick to pay for billionaire tax cuts and defense programs even the Defense Department says they DON'YT WANT.

And that's misguided and morally reprehensible.
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jpcmca2003 replies:
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Obama campaigned the first time to clean up Washington...Here we are 4 and a month later and you guys are still blaming the past administration...Obama has even lauded the Bush tax cuts saying they were a good idea and made them permanent...

Quit blaming the past for this guys inactions!
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Not just the past Administration, But I am not blaming Bush - I am saying conservatives refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions, which is true. And it is true that when Obama walked into office the deficit was $1.1T, not due to HIS actions. And it is true that Congress spends the money and sets the taxes, not Obama. And it is true that Republicans refuse to raise revenues or cut defense spending which is responsible for 75% of the debt.

However, if you want to "blame" Obama for the "Bush" tax cuts on the middle class since he has been in a position to impact them (ignoring that Republicans would never have allowed those taxes to go up anyway) then you could say that about $1T of the debt since Obama took office is "his" desire.

That still leaves the other $4T thanks to Republican actions - or inaction.

I am not saying Obama and the Democrats are blameless - I am saying that until conservative accept responsibility for their own actions we're wasting everyone's time. Like conservative s "blaming Obama" for the expiration of the payroll tax holiday, which THEY DEMANDED not Obama, THEY PASSED and not Obama, and THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR and not Obama.
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panpro says:
Why does CBS keep giving air time to the GOP report that the economy shrank 0.1% last quarter? What is CBS, now, a Republican boom box?
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zmonkee replies:
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WOW....real news hurts....doesn't it!!
zmonkee replies:
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EG...you can't pi$$ on panpro...but if obo did....THEN he would believe it was raining-
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PourpaixPourpaix says:
Unless Obama plans on opening a lemonade stand, there's no way to raise revenue without raising taxes. Killing deductions raises taxes, let's not be confused by word tweaks.

Perhaps updating faulty tax codes is overdue, necessary, and the resulting tax increases necessary to raise enough revenue to pay down the debt. However, fair is fair. The bill to tinker with tax rates has been passed to raise revenues. Now is the time to address spending.
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zmonkee replies:
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no more lemonade stands....unless the 4 year old selling it has a permit:
from Forbes:
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands

I'm beginning to think that there's a nation-wide government conspiracy against either lemonade or children, because these lemonade stand shutdowns seem to be getting more and more common. If you set up a stand for your kids, just be prepared for a visit from the cops.

In Coralville, Iowa police shut down 4-year-old Abigail Krstinger's lemonade stand after it had been up for half an hour. Dustin Krustinger told reporters that his daughter was selling lemonade at 25 cents a cup during the Register's Annual Great Bicycle Race Across Iowa (or RAGBRAI), and couldn't have made more than five dollars, adding "If the line is drawn to the point where a four-year-old eight blocks away can't sell a couple glasses of lemonade for 25 cents, than I think the line has been drawn at the wrong spot."

Nearby, mother Bobbie Nelson had her kids' lemonade stand shutdown as well. Police informed her that a permit would cost $400
arthanyel replies:
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He didn't say without raising taxes - he said without raising tax RATES.
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zmonkee says:
I'm surprised obo hasn't started to tax people for moving out of the state of California-- that would be one way to get revenue-
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