April 26, 2011 2:56 PM

Investigators land in Arizona for "Gunwalker" probe

By
Sharyl Attkisson
Topics
Law and Order

(Credit: CBS)

Updated: April 28, 2011, 3:50pm

CBS News has learned that House and Senate investigators have descended upon Arizona for their probe into the so-called "Gunwalker" scandal. They're gathering interviews from witnesses, including ATF insiders and area gun shop owners. Sources tell CBS News the congressional investigators are frustrated by what they view as across-the-board stonewalling by government agencies which have refused to provide information in the investigation. Government officials have said they won't provide information while their own investigations are ongoing.

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"They're investigating themselves," says one source on Capitol Hill, "and then claiming the open investigations preclude them from giving Congress information it needs for independent oversight. It's highly improper."

ATF insiders being interviewed in Arizona are among those who told CBS News that their own agency employed a controversial strategy beginning in late 2009 called "letting guns walk," to try to gather intelligence. In that strategy, used in an operation ATF called "Fast and Furious," ATF allegedly allowed thousands of assault rifles and other weapons cross the Mexican border into the hands of drug cartels. Many of the guns later turned up at Mexican crime scenes, and ATF was notified; but documents show the agency continued to encourage local gun shop owners to sell more guns to the same suspects.

Sharyl Attkisson's original "gunwalking" report
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Sources and documents indicate the prosecutor who advised the "Fast and Furious" case in Phoenix was Asst. U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley. His boss, Arizona's US Attorney Dennis Burke, was a longtime chief of staff for Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano when she served as Arizona governor. In brief questioning from Congress in March, Napolitano said it was "premature" to comment on details of the Fast and Furious controversies. She also said she was "not aware" that an agent under Homeland Security was on the ATF Fast and Furious task force in Phoenix. Speaking of herself in the third person, Napolitano stated that "no concerns were expressed to the Secretary."

ATF's former lead agent in Mexico, Attache Darren Gil, told CBS News in an exclusive interview that he believes senior Justice Dept. official Lanny Breuer and several of his deputies who visited Mexico amid the controversy last summer knew all about the alleged gunwalking, as did ATF's Acting Director Kenneth Melson. None of those officials would speak to CBS News. Federal agencies have refused Sen. Charles Grassley's (R-Iowa) requests to turn over documents related to the official's Mexico trips. In mid-April, the State Department turned over a single "sensitive" cable to Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), who's also investigating; and asked that it not be made public.

In another development, the Assistant Special Agent in charge of ATF's Phoenix Division, George Gillett, continues to provide information to Sen. Grassley, who's investigating. Of the top managers possibly implicated in the gunwalking strategy, Gillett is the only one who's hired an attorney and is voluntarily providing information to Grassley's office.

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According to interviews and documents, a number of ATF agents objected to what they saw as an unprecedented and dangerous approach to gathering intelligence. Objections also came from ATF supervisors and gun shop owners enlisted by the ATF to make the sales. Those who expressed concerns say they were punished, ostracized and even threatened with their jobs by managers.

An internal email from Feb. 3, 2011 indicates ATF officials may have improperly guided employees not to answer Congressional inquires in the gunwalking scandal.

"As always, you are in no way obligated to respond to congressional contacts or requests for information and generally, consistent with ATF policy, you should refer congressional staff who seek information from you to ATF's office of congressional affairs. You are not authorized to disclose non-public information about law enforcement matters... to anyone including congressional staff..." reads the email, in part.

When Sen. Grassley learned of the email and also of alleged retaliation attempts against whistleblowers, he fired off a letter April 8 to ATF Acting Director Melson. The letter states that it is "unlawful" for ATF to "inappropriately intimidate employees to discourage from speaking with Congress."


  • Sharyl Attkisson

    Sharyl Attkisson is a CBS News investigative correspondent based in Washington. All of her stories, videos and blogs are available here.

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by charlieecho April 29, 2011 10:06 AM EDT
I hope our "investigators lean on those involved very hard. For Homeland Security to scream that American guns were being used to wage these drug wars, and have our own "provide" such guns. This is a crime, a very serious crime. Who would believe it would have even helped had they even been able to trace these guns. If they had the means to "trace" these guns, they wouldn't have even needed to provide them in the first place. Unbelievable.

Start the subpoenas from the bottom up and we will find the culprits. I just hope it doesn't take until 2013.
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by chiefdickerson April 29, 2011 12:16 AM EDT
Awesome! Our government would rather rake Barry Bonds over the coals than deal with legitimate BS like this scandal. How far in the toilet has this country gone?
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by StephenABaker April 28, 2011 4:37 PM EDT
Cut BATF budget to zero unless they comply. That will stop the stonewalling BS overnight. If they don't have the canines to do this, then impound the senior management payroll until they comply. Congress has immense power. Use it.
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by hipshotpercusion April 28, 2011 11:20 AM EDT
This is all to incredible to be real. While Josh "Goebles" Sugarman at the VPC makes funny videos about "Gringo Guns" and blames American Gun owners and Dealers, the ATF is funneling guns to the Mexican Cartels. Eric Holder and Napolitano should go straight tool JAIL!!
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by presclayiii April 27, 2011 12:52 PM EDT
There executing our citizens with our guns really that is pathetic.
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by MJ997 April 27, 2011 2:23 AM EDT
Great to know that Issa and Grassley aren't waiting for the DOJ or ATF to send them info... they are sure to find out some interesting info with boots on the ground in AZ. Great work Sharyl.
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by jack719 April 26, 2011 6:42 PM EDT
Thank you Sharyl Attkisson for digging deep, where ever this may lead. What was the real motivation behind 'Fast and Furious'? What was the plan for tracking these firearms after they crossed the border?
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by DocD--2008 April 26, 2011 4:46 PM EDT
This is a dog and pont show.. Simply put, subpoena the documents and if they refuse to produce requested documents, charge the heads of the departments with obstructing justice and put them IN JAIL.
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