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CBS News/ March 19, 2013, 3:02 PM

Dems shelving assault weapons ban for now

Updated at 3:55 p.m. ET

Citing the minimal support for legislation that would ban assault weapons, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said today that he would leave the proposal out of the gun violence bill he'll bring to the Senate floor. Instead, the assault weapons ban will be offered as an amendment to the bill, along with several other less popular ideas.

"I have said time and time again I want people to have the ability to vote on assault weapons, mental health, safety in schools, federal trafficking, clips -- everything," Reid told reporters this afternoon. "But I cannot do that until I get a bill on the floor."

Reid explained that he'll need to find a bill to bring to the Senate floor that has at least 60 votes of support -- enough to bypass a Republican filibuster and start debate. Once debate has started on that bill, the Senate can vote on amendments, such as the assault weapons ban authored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

Feinstein's legislation passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee last week, but Reid explained today that it wouldn't clear the filibuster hurdle.

"Right now her amendment, using the most optimistic numbers, has less than 40 votes. That's not 60," he said. It's more likely, Reid added, that he would bring to the floor one of the background check proposals currently in the works.

Before a background check bill could be used as the main legislative vehicle, Democrats and Republicans would have to resolve some sticking points -- specifically, they would have to resolve concerns from members on both sides of the aisle who do not want to create a national gun registry.

Besides the background check legislation, Reid could use other proposals such as an anti-trafficking bill that passed out of Judiciary Committee with bipartisan support.

Feinstein expressed her disappointment with Reid's decision to CBS News today, saying, "You know the enemies on this are very powerful. I've known that all my life, my adult life in the political arena certainly."

When asked, however, whether keeping the assault weapons ban out of the bill could make it easier to pass the rest of the legislation, Feinstein said, it "very well might."

"I'm certainly going to vote for all areas of it. It's not a problem for me," she said. "But then we face the wonderful House of Representatives, too."

There are 53 Democrats in the Senate, as well as two independents who caucus with the Democrats, but some of them are expected to join Republicans in opposing Feinstein's proposal.

"The worst of all worlds would be to bring something to the floor and it dies there," Reid said. "People deserve a vote on things they feel so strongly about."

The Senate leader said he would bring a gun bill to the floor "as soon after Easter as i can."

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legalbutunjust says:
YouGottaBeJoking replies:

All firearm are military type weapons. Where have you been for the last 200 years. Every firearm you say you own has military roots but you don't know it because I don't think you really own anything. If you did you would have known that.

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That statement may only be true with respect to various periods of time throughout history, when and wherever multi-national armed conflicts were ongoing. It's not necessarily true with certain kinds of guns that were "uniquely American" during the certain points in time they were invented, or during conflicts that although involving territorial and federal officials on our soil, were not considered war with a wholly "foreign" enemy.

The "Brown Bess" was a military weapon, but in today's times nobody would recognize it as such. Many of them were later taken off the hands of British loyalists and sympathizers here on our soil, not all by those who fought as revolutionaries against British soldiers, in the period of the American Revolution.

The same can be said of double barrel shotguns, with respect to "militias".
At one time they might've been used in an armed conflict, not necessarily to mean that a formal military and its members ALWAYS had made use of them during such.


One type of gun, a very early 8 shot revolver rifle made by Patent (later, "Colt"), is an example of a rare kind of firearm that was not truly based on earlier types of long guns with rifling from the first couple of decades in the 1800's. It is an example of a sportsman's gun that gave significant rise to other, later firearms that were used by lawmen, pioneers and frontiersman alike, not all of whom were in the role of using their weapons for a paramilitary or government purpose.
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Barry-been-inhalin says:
Anyone that thinks it's over is an idiot. Don't buy the propaganda the left is throwing out here to throw you off. No they won't vote on the assault weapons bill on its own, but as an amendment to something else, they have already said this.
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trout-fish replies:
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and?
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smashn_poise says:
VICTORYDEM2013 replies: Well I have a BA in Government...retired Air Force Officer and I now work for the Government. And you have presented no credentials giving you any credibility yet you're more than happy to belittle others with your assumed wisdom with regard to the Second Amendment. Therefore I dismiss you! Be gone with you NOW!



Well your BA that you earned 20+ years ago does not give you credibility on the subject. Retired Air Force, well thank you for your service.
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trout-fish says:
This outcome was pretty predictable.

As a gun owner, I am in favor of reasonable rules and regulations. And I have yet to hear a compelling argument for citizens to own military-type weapons.

It will take more tragedies and more years before any real action is taken.
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RCcheckitout replies:
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Then tell me how an AR15 is a military style weapon? It is not full auto. You don't have a clue about firearms do you? So then my 22 cal semi auto that is black and can shoot fifteen rounds is a militry style weapon if you think an ar-15 is. Go do some research there city boy keep playing your video games. PUP.
trout-fish replies:
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@ YouGottaBeJoking

A single barrel shotgun or 22 rifle is a "military style weapon"???

moron
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sandiegopete says:
An assault rifle ban would do nothing. What needs to be done is enact laws that require registration of all firearms with the requirement that any change of ownership must be reported. There is nothing in the 2nd Amendment that would prevent required registration of firearms.

Also, high capacity magazines can be banned. Such a ban would not conflict with the 2nd Amendment. If lead shot can be banned so can high capacity magazines.
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kcreligion replies:
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First why don't you try getting the criminals and gang members to register and report their ownership to you. If they don't kill you first come back in a year and lets see how many you got
to change their ways.lol
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TimeToEvolve says:
The last massacre happened with stolen guns. The best offense is a equal or greater defense.

So I suppose you wackos need your guns to protect yourself from tyranny. What country are you from? Do you know what the second amendment says? And if you think your toys are going to protect yourself from the government, you are smoking better stuff that I have ever seen.
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smashn_poise replies:
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When you fail to understand history, it is bound to happen again. I do not live in a world where I think the government will come into my home and demand guns. I live in a world where criminals will break into my house while I am sleeping and I will persecute them with passion.

Of course I am not a drug user so the smoking of stuff bit I will have to pass on commenting on.
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smashn_poise says:
Switzerland has mandatory gun ownership and training. Of a population of more than 7 million, the number of homicides in 2009 was 84. When compared to the United States which in 2009 had 14,598 homicides for more than 314 million people. The average for Switzerland was .83 per 100,000 and the US was 4.7 per 100,000. I think we should be putting weapons in more law abiding citizens hands, rather than limiting them.
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smashn_poise says:
Congress creates laws. Criminals disobey laws. It makes no sense to try and pass legislation that controls gun ownership.
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smashn_poise replies:
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VICTORYDEM2013 replies: yes it does...


OK, OK, you must live in rabbit mode all day, eating the fresh grass that your government provides, with not a care in the world.
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TimeToEvolve says:
I guess it is just about time for the next massacre of innocent little children by some wacko who has a "legal" gun.
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The_Bad_Ranger_Rides_Away replies:
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You fixing to go Postal on us 'evolve'?
smashn_poise replies:
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The last massacre happened with stolen guns. The best offense is a equal or greater defense.
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The_Bad_Ranger_Rides_Away says:
Hey Gun Haters - don't be a Hypocrite - Put a sign in your front yard

"Gun Free House"

I dare ya!

HAR!
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TimeToEvolve replies:
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We don't hate guns, we just want strict regulation so that all gun owners and users are held accountable.
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