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Lucy Madison /

CBS News/ December 26, 2012, 4:45 PM

Teetering on the cliff, WH, Congress gear up for new round of talks

Updated 4:45 p.m. ET

As the nation teeters on the edge of the so-called "fiscal cliff," President Obama returns to Washington Thursday to resume negotiations with Congress over a deal to keep taxes from going up on Americans. But a cloud of uncertainty hangs over the state of play as lawmakers trickle back to Capitol Hill for a new round of talks, and voters are expressing diminishing faith in the two sides' ability to hammer out an agreement.

Mr. Obama, who spent Christmas in Hawaii with his family, announced yesterday he would be returning to Washington on an overnight flight tonight. But after ongoing negotiations fell apart last week between the president and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, it's not clear if a deal will be made before a series of tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect next year.

A senior White House official told CBS News that action to avert the fiscal cliff "requires a willingness by two individuals to make it happen." The official said it will be up to Senate Minority Leader McConnell, R-Ky., not to block a vote and up to Boehner to allow a vote on a proposal to preserve middle-class tax cuts and extend Social Security benefits.

The official said the president, "hopes and expects Congress will handle its business." Noting failure to reach agreement "would be bad for the economy," the official added that Washington "shouldn't shoot itself in the foot again."

According to a new Gallup poll, voters are markedly less optimistic now than in recent weeks that the two parties will be able to hammer out a compromise before January 1. The survey, conducted between Dec. 21-22, indicates that 50 percent of Americans believe that a deal is likely, while 48 percent say it's doubtful; in the previous three weeks, a firm majority of Americans expressed confidence that a deal could be reached.

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Congressional Republicans have indicated in recent days that they have not been in communication with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., over the makings of a possible deal, and signs indicate that Reid is crafting his own package with input from the White House.

Reid's proposal would likely be a stopgap measure extending the Bush-era tax cuts on 98 percent of incomes while letting them expire for the wealthiest Americans. It could also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset across-the-board spending cuts set to go into effect on January 1, 2013, and try to tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax, and preventing a big scheduled drop-off in Medicare reimbursement rates to doctors at the start of the year.

For such a bill to reach the president's desk, however, Boehner would have to agree to take it up in the House -- a move that could incite further ire among the conservative wing of his party. If he did decide to bring a Democratic bill up for a vote on the House floor, 26 Republicans and all 191 Democrats would have to vote for it to move the process forward.

Many Democrats believe they have a sufficient amount of Republican support, however, and are urging Boehner to bend to their will.

"If Speaker Boehner is willing to bring to the floor of the House a bill, and just let this House work its will, Democrats and Republicans voting as their conscience determines, then I believe we can get something done," Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., told Bloomberg TV recently.

Another possibility is that Republicans allow the nation to go over the cliff, at which point the Bush-era tax cuts would expire and rates would go up on all Americans, before promptly working to pass a bill in January restoring those cuts for most of the population. That outcome could increase economic uncertainty on Wall Street but would allow congressional Republicans to uphold their commitment to not raising tax rates.

"I'm not sure if either side is watching very carefully, and listening to what the American people think," said Republican strategist and pollster Frank Luntz in an interview today with "CBS This Morning." "When we asked the American people, Who is the GOP fighting for and representing? The number one answer, the rich. The number two answer, big business. Well, well back is number three, hard-working taxpayers. By the republicans fighting this tax increase on the most wealthy Americans, the public looks at that and says once again the GOP is standing up for the rich."

The Democrats, Luntz argued, have been equally tone deaf.

"What the Democrats don't understand is that the hostility towards how much Washington spends, that this whole discussion over the last six weeks has been about raising taxes on the wealthy rather than cutting wasteful Washington spending," he said.

CBS News' Peter Maer contributed to this report.

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fiberglass3 says:
The recent election clearly shows us that the majority of voters support "Un-entitlement Reform".
Taxing the rich and eliminating the tax breaks that they unfairly take advantage of.
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mollysmop7 says:
Good...HOPE it screwed-up his Holidays....Hey! I, ME,... had a GREAT Holiday...Paid for it ALL-BY-MYSELF too....Went "Down-Under", for a Swim, did some surfing, and laid on the beach, saw the "Bridge"... Koalas, Kangaroos, did the Pubs-and-Clubs scene too...
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CBSDebbie says:
For goodness sakes, stop the drama. GOP put this off on a bet in 2011. Super committee proved worthless (much like congress) Lets just go off the cliff. Bush Tax Cuts expire, revenue is raised on everyone. Puts the TEAParty in their place. They have ruined the GOP and since the GOP can't grow a pair this does the job for them. Cuts begin to the bloated, fat, and spend, spend, spend of the Defense Budget. It will mess up Wall Street for a bit and business but nothing is happening now anyway with Main Street and jobs. Just stop the drama and jump the cliff.
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merletrutledge says:
Why would the fiscal cliff not be a issue if Merle Rutledge Jr was in the U.S congress.

I would have added wording into the legislation that says if we went over the fiscal cliff or refused to raise the debt ceiling in a timely manner than everyone in the U.S congress would lose half their pay. This should have been added to the budget deal in the last debate on the U.S government paying its b...ills. I would have put this into the big budget deal that was agreed upon in 2010. I believe President Obama drop the ball on that one. It was some leverage to make people accountable so this fiscal cliff would not be the issue that it is today. You start messing with your own money than they would see for themselves how important other people money is in America.
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johnlockesghost says:
Let's go over the cliff and see how it really works out instead of guessing. In other words, let's learn to live within out means.
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FormerUSMCSergeant says:
Reid's proposal would likely be a stopgap measure extending the Bush-era tax cuts on 98 percent of incomes while letting them expire for the wealthiest Americans... could also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset across-the-board spending cuts set to go into effect on January 1, 2013, and..tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax, and preventing a big scheduled drop-off in Medicare reimbursement rates to doctors at the start of the year.
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While Boehner is MIA.....
Harry's getting it done after Boehner punted.
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nearl451 says:
Look. The cliff is the most effective short term solution available. Just watch it's impact on the overall economy (which, although is not boomingis quite stable). Just don't watch the volatile Wall Street reactions for a couple of weeks after it hits.

For the long term.... Please now just get together to negotiate how to make the thenet effect on the budget MORE sound; not less as both sidse have been working toward.

New Stonger Dem Senate, New more moderate House. Do therepsonsible thingora change and stop fearing Wall Street.
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bonniemartin says:
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!!! YOU HAVE HELD US HOSTAGE FOR 4 YEARS WITH YOUR CHILDISH BICKERING. AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS. YOU SHOULD ALL BE IMPEACHED
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nearl451 replies:
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Honey, it's been alot longer that 4 years.
darkhorseky replies:
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Of course
How do you hold a king back? Is that it? Also it is the way the American system works. Also Hun, nothing is holding back the financal crises that is ahead. All the Goverment welfare on all sides will have to be paid for.
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SumDumusr says:
The Cliff cannot be avoided. It was set up 4 years ago (the Bail Out .. remember? Did you think it was free? It ain't) So taxes go up and cuts have to be made. There is not much to negotiate. If Obama wants the Bush tax cuts HE aln can sign and executive order (he's done hundreds of them). The negotiations are simply smoke screen: wake up.
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nearl451 replies:
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No problem.

But your perspective is incorrect. The "Bail Out" cost is not impacted or paid for one iota by the cliff. The cliff merely cuts the annual busget deficit by about 40%, not paying for wars, bailouts, nor "temporary" tax breaks of the past....whatsoever.
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usbworks says:
I have total faith in the Republican Party, because:

Republicans are always right.
Republicans never compromise.
Republicans never apologize.

We are superior because we're white and you're not.
We are evangelical Christian and will go to heaven and you will not.
We worship Ayn Rand capitalism because greed is good and compassion weak.

The fiscal cliff doesn't scare us because we know we'll be just fine and don't care that you will not.
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