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Jillian Hughes, Brian Montopoli /

CBS News/ October 11, 2012, 9:15 PM

Fireworks fly at vice presidential debate

Vice President Joe Biden and Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan arrive on stage for their debate at Centre College in Danville, Ky., October 10, 2012.

/ SAUL LOEB/AFP/GettyImages

Updated 11:20 p.m. ET

The fireworks began early at Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., with Vice President Joe Biden and Republican vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan hammering each other -- and the men at the top of their ticket -- over the attacks in Libya and other foreign policy issues. 

"It took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack," Ryan claimed, before criticizing the Obama administration for "projecting weakness abroad."

"What we are watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of the Obama foreign policy," he added.

Biden, who smiled incredulously during Ryan's comments, responded, "With all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey."

He criticized Ryan for voting to cut funding for embassy security and added of Mitt Romney and Ryan, "These guys bet against America all the time."

For Biden, the debate marked an opportunity to change the narrative of the campaign in the wake of President Obama's widely-panned performance in the first presidential debate last week. Mitt Romney has gained in both national and battleground state polls in the wake of that performance, and the two men are now effectively tied in national polls. While vice presidential debates have not changed the course of a campaign in the past, a strong performance by the vice president could allow the Obama campaign to regain its footing.

For Ryan, the Wisconsin Republican congressman and House Budget Committee chair who is seen by many as the intellectual leader of the GOP, the debate was a chance to introduce himself to the American people and make a forceful case for the Romney/Ryan ticket. Ryan, who asked to be referred to as "Mr. Ryan" instead of "Congressman Ryan" by the moderator, was pressed on his plan to transform Medicare into a voucher-like system as well as the Romney-Ryan ticket's unwillingness to specify which deductions and loopholes should be eliminated from the tax code in order to make its tax cuts revenue-neutral.

The 90-minute debate at Centre College, moderated by ABC News' Martha Raddatz, was split between domestic and foreign issues. The two men were seated - unlike last week's presidential debate - and the debate was broken into nine 10-minute segments.

On Iran, the two agreed Iran should not be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon, but Ryan said sanctions should be tougher claiming Iran is moving faster toward a nuclear weapon. Biden defended the administration's sanctions saying "These are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. Period."

Biden followed by asking, rhetorically, how the administration could make the sanctions any tougher. "What more can the President do? We will not let them acquire a nuclear weapon," he said.

Raddatz then moved on to domestic policy where Biden and Ryan got to Mitt Romney's comment at a Florida fundraiser that "47 percent" of people don't pay income taxes. Ryan came to his running mate's defense, "sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth in the right way," Ryan said.


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Dancing-in-the-Streets says:
DAN:

OMG! You really are racist! : /

1.Look up the real statistics for Planned Parenthood, instead of making up your own! You are misinformed!

2. Al Sharpton & Jessie Jackson and Rev. Wright - are NOT the leaders of the Democratic party! LOL!

3. As usual its all about the money! Your priorities are screwed up, you need to "fix yourself" Dan!

4. Really you PAINT them? I thought that was God's job!

5. : / OMG......you really ARE a racist SOB aren't you?

6....and back to the Money! One of these days, look around you and try caring about the people around you, rather than your money! Its much more satisfying! : )
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Dancing-in-the-Streets says:
Dan9080 says:
DANCING-IN-THE-STREETS replies:Have you ever thought of taking a moment to consider their point once in a while?!
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I know libs. They want to keep all of you enslaved with government programs. They want unions and blacks and minorities to always vote den. They think the GOP is only the party for old rich guys.....and yet they want to enslave you and take away your freedom. You all follow like little lemmings to your sure entrapment..
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Okay I'll look at that. First of all - I'm not on ANY government programs! None! So there goes your first point! And people in Unions, minorities, they are all free to vote how they want to vote! No group ALL votes the same! I can't stand stereotyping an entire group!

Party for "Old Rich Guys" - well, you have a point there, because Old Rich White Men is pretty much the only thing the Republican Party has NOT insulted!

And no one wants to "enslave you and take away your freedom"! Where do you Get that??? Look up the meaning of the word "LIBERAL" sometime! To me, its "Live and Let Live"! You can have your freedom, your freedom to be rich or poor, to be religious or NOT, or marry who you want, I don't care what you do in your bedroom......kinda the opposite of how I see the Republican Party!

LOL! We all follow? Seriously? LOL! The toughest problem the Democratic party has is getting us all to agree, because we do NOT all follow! We are not ALL of any one mind, any one religion! We have a very Large Tent in the Blue Party! And You are Welcome to come and actually SEE what its about sometime, rather than assuming with your typical stereotypes!!!

: )
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New-World-Oder replies:
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yadda,yadda,yadda.
Dancing-in-the-Streets replies:
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OMG! You really are racist! : /

1.Look up the real statistics for Planned Parenthood, instead of making up your own! You are misinformed!

2. Al Sharpton & Jessie Jackson and Rev. Wright - are NOT the leaders of the Democratic party! LOL!

3. As usual its all about the money! Your priorities are screwed up, you need to "fix yourself" Dan!

4. Really you PAINT them? I thought that was God's job!

5. : / OMG......you really ARE a racist SOB aren't you?

6....and back to the Money! One of these days, look around you and try caring about the people around you, rather than your money! Its much more satisfying! : )
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Dancing-in-the-Streets says:
Dan aren't you from Colorado?

SO guess it wasn't you who shot up the Democratic Headquarters there, since you're here!
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Dancing-in-the-Streets replies:
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I'm in Texas...can't shoot quite THAT far! LOL
Dancing-in-the-Streets replies:
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I do at times - but I'll be danged if I'll leave the State I love to be taken over by these Red Idiots! We WILL turn Texas Blue again! Someday!
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Dancing-in-the-Streets says:
Dang CBS!

SNAP! : )
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Dancing-in-the-Streets says:
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october112012/romney-us-flag-tk.php

U.S. Flag lowered - Chinese flag is flying in its place.....
in Illinois!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because of BAIN! Mitt ROmney's Bain!

Now all of you United States Veterans - you just TELL me this doesn't bother you!!!!
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Lindag20 replies:
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Romney owns this one, but watch him try to blame Obama for it.
Dancing-in-the-Streets replies:
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: )

Good Afternoon Ranger! ; )

How's your Saturday going?
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Sweetgrl1977 says:
Sometimes all you can do is laugh!!! Way to go Joe ;-)
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rksharma-2009 says:
Biden, Rude: Really. Finally someone from the democrat party gave you hell that you deserve. Republican party is a party of greedy rich people with followers who are idiots with IQ lower than a Taliban. They follow the same kind of religion that Taliban does and want to impose their will on women as Taliban. Finally someone made Ryan to admit that on a national TV. Great job Joe, keep it up.
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audemus replies:
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...good points.
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audemus says:
BIDEN TO RYAN :

"Governor Romney says 47 % of the American people are unwilling to take responsibility for their lives," Biden pointed out, adding that Ryan also said that "30 % are takers."

"These people are my Mom and Dad, my Neighbors. They pay more effective tax than Governor Romney pays," the Vice President continued, "they are Elderly People who in fact are living off of Social Security, they are Veterans who are--quote--not paying taxes."

"I've never met two guys more down on America across the board. We're told everything is going badly. 5.2 million new jobs (were created), private sector jobs. We need more. But 5.2 million. If they," (motioning to Ryan-implicating the Republican controlled House of Representatives), "would get out of the way and pass the Jobs Bill. If they would get out of the way and let us allow 14 million people who are struggling to stay in their homes because their mortgages are upside down, but they never missed a mortgage payment."

Biden added : "Just get out of the way. Stop talking about how you care about People. Show me something. Show me a policy. Show me a policy where you take responsibility."



Our Vice-President nailed it....GET OUT OF THE WAY, AND GO AWAY. Come November 6th, they will.

"And what could be more agreeable ?"
-CH
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GOP-R--Con-Men says:
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets. The come to you as disguised as sheep, but in their hearts are vicious wolves.

Perfect explains Romney and Ryan as they attack America's social safety net.

Ryan looked like a young con man lying to his older victim hoping he gets away with the scam before the victim realize they've been scammed. However, the victim was laughing and smiling during the scam attempt because he knew he was being scammed / lied too.
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JV1970 replies:
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If anything the situation was the other way around! Joe Biden was NOBODY'S victim! He went after Paul Ryan with a vengeance throughout the whole debate!

It didn't work though! Paul Ryan matched him answer for answer and he did it in a calm and sane manner!

In the end Biden is the one who looked like the idiot and Ryan was the even tempered, sane one!
JV1970 replies:
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If you want to see a young con man lying to his older victim just review the presidential debates of the 2008 election!
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Repubs_R_Fiscal_Liberals says:
CAMAC7
I actually do volunteer my time & resources at a few different non-profits to help those that are in need. I am all for that. But these non-profits that I support DO NOT get a handout from the government

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Yes, they do, in the form of tax exemptions.
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SilverBirds-RevSlappy replies:
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and what is wrong with that?
Everyone wins.
Repugs is so un-American and selfish.
Repubs_R_Fiscal_Liberals replies:
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So you're FOR more subsidies and entitlements, Silverbirds?

Flip-flop much?
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