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John Dickerson /

CBS News/ September 19, 2012, 6:57 AM

The coming war within the Republican Party

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney addresses the US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Los Angeles on September 17, 2012.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney addresses the US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Los Angeles on September 17, 2012. / AFP/Getty

This post originally appeared on Slate.

(CBS News) After the presidential campaign ends, think tanks and universities will invite wise partisans to explain why their party lost and how to rebound. Some Republicans are already working on their talking points.

A pattern has emerged in my conversations with GOP campaign veterans over the last 10 days. Here is how these conversations usually go. First, these Republicans defend Romney. Then, they point out that it's hard to beat an incumbent president, sigh that the press is in the tank for Obama, and point out that the polls are a lot closer than the chattering class makes it seem (Please see Gallup: Obama's bounce is gone). Romney might still pull it out, they say, if he can just connect with voters or tell a better story. But then the conversation inevitably turns to the "big talk" that's going to come after the election: What's the Republican Party going to look like in the future? If Romney loses, the party's leaders must change their ways to be in sync with the modern electorate.

Caveat: If the opinions of political operatives and campaign partisans were always solid, Chris Christie would have run for president, Hillary Clinton would have traded jobs with Joe Biden, and the GOP would have had a brokered convention. So, this preliminary conversation about the fissures in the Republican Party might be just the idle chatter of people not intimately involved in the Romney game plan. But there comes a moment when these conversations break out into the open and then a campaign can't ignore them. The locker-room chatter runs the risk of becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy. It's harder for a candidate to win an election when, months ahead of time, his party's smart people are having a public discussion about the post-election period in which he has already lost.

In addition to my reporting, there are now some public signs. David Brooks offered a withering critique of Romney in a column today that ends with what feels like a post-election analysis seven weeks before the election. "He's a kind, decent man who says stupid things because he is pretending to be something he is not--some sort of cartoonish government-hater. But it scarcely matters. He's running a depressingly inept presidential campaign." In a piece for Politico today, the former GOP chairman Haley Barbour already sounds like he's offering post-game analysis. "In the future, and not distant future, Republicans have to come to grips with the right policy on immigration," says Barbour. Bill Kristol also appears to be in the mood to offer final words on this campaign: "Has there been a presidential race in modern times featuring two candidates who have done so little over their lifetimes for our country, and who have so little substance to say about the future of our country?" (He is apparently not yet buying the Romney campaign's move to specificity).

Why on earth would any self-respecting Republican rush to make definitive claims about Romney when a president with a weak record can still be turned out of office? Presumably the people making these claims care about the future of the conservative movement. There is a first-mover's advantage to getting your theory out fast so that your ideas can help shape the post-election debate. If you want your theory to become conventional wisdom, act now! But anyone who wants to stand up and make a bold claim has to engage in a balancing act: You want to be quick enough to have the stage to yourself, but not too quick so that it looks like you are being opportunistic. It's like criticizing a sitting president too early during a foreign-policy crisis: criticizing your own party should start at the election's edge.

You might be saying, these columnists don't speak for me. You might call them Washington conservatives and point out, as several people not stricken with Potomac Fever have said to me, that this tentative heading for the exits is symptomatic of the timidity that has caused confusion in the party. That feeling is honest and part of the debate. It's likely to make you want to speak up to claim your view of where the conservative movement should go next before these insiders get too many free minutes at the microphone. That is how the debate gets started. Meanwhile, the race between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama is forgotten, which isn't good news for Gov. Romney.

The rough contours of this conversation about the party's future center on whether the party's tone on immigration and the role of government have gotten out of sync with the electorate. Grassroots activists will argue that Romney was a compromise candidate who could never articulate the anti-government case for freedom and that's why he's having a hard time. (That is the argument Rick Santorum made during the primaries.) Others will argue that the Tea Party pushed Romney--as it will every candidate--into ever-more absolutist positions on immigration and the role of government.


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tryhonesty says:
RepubliCONs Ruinme and Ryan (Joe McCarthy II) the ULTIMATE Flip-Flopper, No Core...Empty Suits. My grandfather once told me, give the RepubliCONs enough rope and they will hang themselves. These Bozos have told so many lies they are getting lost in their dung. Out with the teaBAGS in 2012, let us get this Greedy OLD Party of NO Brains OUT OF CONGRESS (aka DO NOTHING RepubliCON House). It is time to clean House and move forward. OBAMA 2012!
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xenon75 replies:
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WOW... i feel the same way about the Dems. They lie, Obama lies, they all lie.

Remember Obama told the American people in 2008 I will not take away your guns?

You can keep your regular HC Insurance and doctors will ObamaCare? (since then both of mine have changed twice now since Jan 2011!)

Obama was going to cut the then $10Trillion debt in half to $5Trillion? Now it is more than 3 times that at: $16.5 TRILLION.
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Neo-Communist-Democrats says:
Let's see, we have progressive sources like Slate, CBS News/ NY Times, CBS News/YouGov, CBS Lettermans Show all predicting this and that.

According to them they have already projected Obama the winner so don't bother going out to vote.
The arrogance and gall of CBS and it's left wing cronies affiliates trying to steal this election one more time for the Marxist Manchurian Candidate.
Pardon us if we vote and let the electorial process do it it's job.
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RollotheNorman replies:
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If you don't like it here, take to aspirin and go back to Fox News sucker.
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smartalecq says:
Romney is loosing because he has a big credibility problem.

Romney flip-flops and Ryan flop-flips it back again.
If Ryan does watch his golden mouth, Romney's silver foot will end up in it.

Remember that melodramatic Ryan speech about the closing of the Wisconsin GM plant. That was hilarious. Ryan was even in tears.
Later it turned out that the plant closed during Bush's time.

He even blamed Obama for the Republican downgrade. Fact checkers exposed Ryan's convention speech as 99% lies.

After this election, Ryan would be as credible as Palin. Not the irrelevant bimbo kind, the smooth talking car salesman kind.
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RollotheNorman replies:
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He does have huge credibility issues. Willard can't even run his own campaign. That's his whole claim to fame. "I'm a bizzness guy, natural born manager."" Replace Obama, he can't manage." It's getting late in the game and it's looking like Willard can't manage at all. Why should the American People trust Willard to manage the whole country when he can't even keep his campaign out of the ditch?
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willow11st says:
The Fund-Raiser Tape Should Come As no surprise to Anyone !!Romney's Comments Just show the G.O.P.'s true colors.We "victims" will be Throwing Mitt the Twit an appropriate going-away party in November!!
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baileycccc says:
The republicans have moved to far to the right. They have chosen poorly with Romney and he chose even poorer with Ryan. The election is over.
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Verascity says:
The GOP, as it currently operates, is keyed to keeping the approval of the faaaar right. That this group is out of step with most voters should be obvious: Most Americans support a woman's right to choose, don't feel their own marriages are threatened if gays marry and think our kids shouldn't have to go into debt or use up their parents retirement accounts to get a university education.

Pandering to ultra conservatives is killing the GOP.
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sjc_1 says:
If Texas ever decides to go proportional electoral like Oklahoma, that will split 36 electoral votes. there goes the GOP for 40 years.
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jjc9999 replies:
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The only problem with that is the fact that the Texas republican mafia has a strangle hold on every aspect of voting. Do you have a kid that turned voting age since the last presidential election? The criminals that run this state have made sure, one way or the other,
that their vote WILL NOT COUNT. Also the elderly have been disenfranchised. The reason appears to be an antiquated driver's license computer system, installed three and a half years ago, just after the last presidential election. It's really pathetic.
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audemus says:
Hopefully, this out-of-touch, disconnected fiasco called the Republican Party will simply implode and disappear. America owes Mitt Romney a huge debt of gratitude for having been the candidate who revealed to all exactly what this party has become...perhaps what it's always been. The exclusion and the contempt for ordinary Americans is something that's always been hinted at, but the Romney/Ryan ticket has ripped the covers from the bed and laid bare who and exactly what the Republicans are all about....and America has turned away in DISGUST....justifiably so.
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rksharma-2009 says:
Don't celebrate that there is in-fighting inside the GOP. In both parties we have extreme positions, however, it is obvious that in GOP right extreme positions have defined the so called new republican party. They also knew that a candidate with position in unelectable for president. This is why Romney, who for many republicans is a moderate democrat. GOP do not see their ideology the same as Romney's ideology. However, it is difficult for Romney to be some that he is not. He is not right wing republican, and this is why when he endorsed Obama's healthcare, he basically was saying that I have done the same, and it is good. Obama has given credit to Romney's healthcare plan, which unfortunately for Romney he can't have it, because the GOP won't let him. So GOP is stuck here. They have no idea which direction is a better direction for them. They are also coming to a realization that Romney is unelectable, because he has every position for everything. So sure there is in-fighting going on inside the GOP, which should have been obvious from the day GOP put its support behind Romney. Heck he is also a Mormon, which contradicts the kind of family values that republicans want to support.
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mountainstates1 says:
Until the GOP kicks out the radical Tea Party they will continue to lose elections. Right now Republicans represent no one except racists, bigots, and billionaires!
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baileycccc replies:
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You mean they represent the likes of Rush Dumbo, the "Obesity in Broadcasting" radical.
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