House set for health care law repeal vote

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(CBS News) The House of Representatives will vote this week to repeal President Barack Obama's health care law. The vote, which was announced by House Republican leaders immediately following the U.S. Supreme Court's health care ruling, will be the 31st time the Republican House will have voted to repeal or defund all, or part, of the Affordable Care Act.

But the move, like most of the votes before, will lead to nothing. The Democratic Senate won't consider it. And even if a sprinkle of magic fairy dust fell over the Capitol dome, and the House and Senate somehow agreed to repeal the law, Mr. Obama has the ultimate say with his veto pen.

That could all change next January depending on November's election results. The Supreme Court ruled that the heart of the health care law, the individual mandate, is constitutional, but that does not mean Congress can't change the law in the future. Of course, repealing the law won't be easy and many things would have to fall in just the right place for Republicans to get their way.

Here's the list of the many events that would need to take place for Republicans to succeed in repealing the law before key provisions are fully implemented in 2014:

Mitt Romney wins in November

As mentioned earlier, the president has veto power to strike down any law Congress passes. Congress can override a presidential veto, but it needs two-thirds of both the House and Senate to vote in favor of doing so. Congress has only overridden seven vetoes in the past two decades. Even if Republicans take all of Congress but President Obama stays in the White House, the health care law would stay in place as Democrats envisioned the law.

Republicans take the Senate - and win BIG

One quirk of the Senate that House members from both parties bemoan on a regular basis is that it usually takes 60 votes to do almost anything in the Senate. Want to bring a bill to the floor? Takes 60. Want to end debate? Takes 60. These are the big votes. The final vote on passage is usually an afterthought if senators are able to clear that 60-vote threshold. The current breakdown of the Senate is 51 Democrats, 47 Republicans, and 2 independents that caucus with the Democrats. That means Republicans would need to pick up at least 13 seats for a filibuster-proof majority. While it is possible Republicans could take the four seats needed for a majority in the Senate, no one is predicting they will win so many seats that they would have what's known as a "super majority" with 60 Republicans. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell told a local Rotary Club audience recently that repealing the health care law would be the first item on the agenda if they win the Senate, but repeal won't be that easy.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh8O7tZ2GD4&feature=youtu.be

LOL! I Dare you to watch it Founders - all the way to the end!
God I Love that Woman! : )
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Come on Someone watch it! Its about the Koch Brothers!

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What is your issue with healthcare (personally)? Do you have an ailment or someone who is sick?
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Both.

And I've witnessed too many times over, how a person with a good health insurance plan is treated vs. a person with no health insurance. Its wrong. God doesn't see a rich man's life as more important than a poor mans, why should we?

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by TheFoundersLive
It is personal for me also, Dancing. I want everyone to have theirs.

by RepubsAreFiscallyLiberal
You've stated many times that those who cannot pay should not receive it.

by TheFoundersLive
RAFL, a person who cannot pay...how is it "theirs"?

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Thanks for proving my point once again.

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I suppose a person who cannot pay, can just go on ahead and die!
I swear!
I sure hope you're never faced with having to watch someone you love die, for lack of money!

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by TheFoundersLive
If that business owner is put in a position where he is uncertain of he climate and it doesnt look promising, he is not going to take unnecessary risks!

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You obviously don't understand business.

Companies hire when they have the need. They in NO way hold off for uncertainty unless they wish to shoot themselves in the foot. They can always lay off later.

Turn off Rush - it's rotting your brain.

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Turn off Rush - it's rotting your brain.
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Amen!

[maripaul-2009]

This is absolutely CORRECT. When there business to be made, workers will ne hired. But people cannot buy if they have no jobs and no income. The GOP does and will not accept this. The Congress and the GOP in particular forget who pays their salary, their perks, their pension and their medical plans. Our taxes pay their salaries. I suggest that the contributors to Romney will also be willing to pay the GOP members. They should since they benefit from the contributions (tax deductible.....) They are disgusting. They have no feelings for the workers out of a job. According to Romney this is not what he did, au contraire, he CREATED jobs.WHERE?

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ping

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I gotta run get something to eat, before it rains....catch up later! : )

[RepubsAreFiscallyLiberal]

Have a good one, ZZ!

Fun to see Mortar back, eh?

[TheFoundersLive]

Have a good day, Dancing.

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If that business owner is put in a position where he is uncertain of he climate and it doesnt look promising, he is not going to take unnecessary risks!
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Ya know, one minute y'all are saying business owners just Can't Take Risks!!! Gasp!
And the next y'all are saying "They deserve every penny and tax break they get - because after all, THEY are the risk takers!

Can't have it both ways!

[RepubsAreFiscallyLiberal]

Mort never has a problem with hypocrisy. That's why he claims to be FOR liberty, but is AGAINST a woman's right to privacy when it comes to abortion.

[TheFoundersLive]

Dancing, I didnt say all of that.

I just know that business owners take constant risks. That is why most businesses go out of business. But, they dont take unnecessary risks...ones where they could destroy their whole company. They would not be in business long if they did.

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by TheFoundersLive July 10, 2012 1:15 PM EDT
But I want them to repeal it.

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Too bad we live in a representative democracy. You only get a say during elections.

[TheFoundersLive]

But Dancing was asking that everyone call this congressman and ask him not to repeal it.

Shouldnt you be saying the same thing to her??

[RepubsAreFiscallyLiberal]

Why would I, Mortar?

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by TheFoundersLive July 10, 2012 1:09 PM EDT
Dancing, I wish I could see this person's posts. You say I am a carbon copy of him. So, I would love to see this for myself.

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Considering that you are Mortar, you know exactly what you've posted in the past.

Your posts yesterday were WORD FOR WORD what you have always posted, Mort. And I mean verbatim.

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"It appears that you back tyranny. And you can do so. "

No, Mortar - no abuse there at ALL! LMAO!

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"And I would expect the same out of you. But, it may appear that you cannot do this. "

It just keeps on going....

Classic Mortar - abuse others, then play the victim when they respond.

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And about this "repeal" of Healthcare....

Representative Joe Walsh in DC.....You know the same man who is a dead beat dad.
[phone]

Please call his number and tell him NO repeal on Obamacare. Let's give the man the attention he's been looking for. Let's hold Joe accountable for his votes, once and for all.

[RepubsAreFiscallyLiberal]

Joe Walsh?? Can you imagine the confusion with that name? ;)

[TheFoundersLive]

But I want them to repeal it.