AP/ January 6, 2012, 2:10 PM

Soldier at Ron Paul rally could face trouble

Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, tries to quiet the crowd at his caucus night rally, Jan. 3, 2012, in Ankemy, Iowa.

Republican presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, tries to quiet the crowd at his caucus night rally, Jan. 3, 2012, in Ankemy, Iowa. / AP Photo/Eric Gay

DES MOINES, Iowa - An Army reservist who took the stage at a political event for Ron Paul and expressed his support for the Republican presidential candidate could face legal troubles, the military said Thursday.

Cpl. Jesse Thorsen, 28, stood at a podium at the Paul rally in Iowa on Tuesday night wearing his military fatigues and said meeting the Texas congressman was like "meeting a rock star."

"His foreign policy is by far, hands down better than any other candidate's out there," Thorsen told the cheering crowd.

Army Reserve spokeswoman Maj. Angel Wallace said participating in a partisan political event in uniform is a violation of Defense Department rules and the military is reviewing whether Thorsen could face legal ramifications. Soldiers are permitted to vote, participate in some political activities and express opinions about candidates as long as they are not in uniform and speaking in an official capacity, she said.

She said Thorsen was not on active duty at the time of Tuesday's rally, but it was not immediately clear if that would have any bearing on the case.

Thorsen "stands alone in his opinions regarding his political affiliation and beliefs, and his statements and beliefs in no way reflect that of the Army Reserve," Wallace said in a statement.

A telephone number for Thorsen could not immediately be found.

At Tuesday's rally at Paul's headquarters Ankeny, Iowa, Paul called Thorsen to join him on stage. Thorsen then shakes his hand before he steps to the podium.

Drew Ivers, a spokesman for Paul's Iowa campaign, said the Thorsen's appearance at the rally was spontaneous and not planned by the campaign.

In a separate interview with CNN on Tuesday, Thorsen said he had served in the military for the past decade.

"I'm really excited about a lot of his ideas, especially when it comes to bringing the soldiers home," he told CNN. "I've been serving for 10 years now and all 10 years of those have been during wartime. I would like to see a little peace time Army."

Paul, who finished third in Tuesday's Iowa caucuses, has said if he is elected, he would bring all or nearly all troops home from Afghanistan and other foreign posts.

According to the military, Thorsen had deployed once to Afghanistan in 2009 after first joining the Florida National Guard in July 2001 and the Army Reserve in 2009. The military said he is with an engineer company out of Des Moines, and his unit falls under the 416th Theater Engineer Command out of Darien, Ill.

Court records show that Thorsen was arrested in Lee County, Fla., in December 2004 for three felonies: burglary, theft of a firearm and possession of burglary tools. Details were not available late Thursday.

He pleaded guilty to all three charges the following July but adjudication was withheld, meaning he would have no record. He was sentenced to probation and ordered to pay $660.50 He made regular payments through April 2006 totaling $630.50 but then stopped, the records show. In May 2006, he was ruled in violation of his probation and was arrested three weeks later in Tampa, spending three days in jail. In August 2006, he appeared before a judge in Lee County, who reinstated his probation. His probation ended in March 2007.

Wallace said the military was looking into the arrests. They were first reported by www.militarycorruption.com.

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hatecorruption says:
You hear that soldiers? You are only allowed to support the establishment candidates. Doing otherwise will prompt the media to actually do some investigating and to make every effort to bring hell down upon your heads...
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RollotheNorman replies:
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If you really hate corruption, you'll understand that the military can vote their preferences, but can not, by custom and law, get involved publically in politics. Or would you rather have a junta like in a banana republic? The ultimate mission of the military is to protect and defend the US Constitution and the military by both custom and orders does not make public statements of support or opposition for either parties or candidate. That said, probably all the Corporal would receive if he is disciplined is non-judical discipline.
LewisUSMC replies:
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@Rollothenorman: You are correct. In civilian clothes, support whom you want, go to any rally you want. You cannot wear a uniform because you give the impression that the entire military is supporting that candidate.
@hatecorruption: stop the drama. If you dont understand the law regarding the conduct of American service men/women dont try to rally people to your drama, it is counterproductive.
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KnowerseekerReturns says:
The law's the law, and if we don't require our men and women in uniform to follow the law (including military law), then how can we expect anybody else to do so?
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rhess595 says:
America is a land of the free and a home of the brave, and we all need to be patriots willing to stand up for our traditional values, based on equal rights for common men and women. The ridiculous stuff coming out of the mouths of the 1% and the Wall Street owned Romney and Obama is enough to make you gag. We cannot be strong by borrowing money from China to fund our military, duh!

In case you all haven't figured it our, Ron Paul represents change we can believe in--revolution back to basic American principles. And he's been fighting for the same things for years. He has not sold out, and is not willing to sell out the average American to the bankers and big corporations.
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xredfoxx says:
If this was planned, he should face some penalty. However, showing up to support your candidate in uniform is not illegal and is protected freedom of speech. And if it was a spur of the moment thing due to overwhelming excitement, give him a slap on the wrist and let it go. If someone I admired a lot asked me to join them on stage, I would jump at the chance.
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proudarmywife10 replies:
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Soldiers know when they say the oath, that they loose the freedoms that civilians including freedom of speech. This is why i cant stand Paul. Because PAUL got ahold of the guy and saw it as an opportunity for to still use us military families for votes yes has done NOTHING for us. Vet or not, he knew damn good and well it was a major violation to be on that stage in uniform. This soldier just screwed his future up big time. All for a crazy old man that wants to be President in his fantasy world.
melmiller55 replies:
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Ron Paul should be ashamed and should publically acknowledge his mistake of putting this soldier in jeopardy. What a jerk!
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NowSomeCommonSense says:
The ironic truth is, the soldier was probably doing the most he could do in the moment to defend our own country's freedoms by speaking at a Ron Paul rally as opposed to any alternative.

But, rules are rules I suppose.
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melmiller55 replies:
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RP's supporter's are dogmatic nut cases....mmm, guess it follows suit
Mortar1SG29 replies:
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You suppose? I thought Ron Paul was all about defending the rules??
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Elizabeth-Conley says:
service members
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TJphoto says:
"To preserve, protect, and defend this Nation from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. - I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it. I have a DD-214 that states I am willing to do that. Let the man exercise his Constitutional right.
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djjsilkfarm replies:
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Like!
LewisUSMC replies:
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@TJ: are you sure you have a DD-214? If you do, then you know that you cannot attend rallies in uniform. without uniform sure and speak your mind. Everyone in the military should know this.
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cnxsoft says:
Actually he did not plan to talk at the event, I wonder if he went onstage after he was cut off during a CNN interview.
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scoutsout1980 says:
From AR 670-1--

j. Wearing Army uniforms is prohibited in the following situations:
(1) In connection with the furtherance of any political or commercial interests, or when engaged in off-duty civilian
employment.
(2) When participating in public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or public demonstrations, except
as authorized by competent authority.
(3) When attending any meeting or event that is a function of, or is sponsored by, an extremist organization.
(4) When wearing the uniform would bring discredit upon the Army.
(5) When specifically prohibited by Army regulations.

Game, set, match.
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slownewsday2012 replies:
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Of course. I don't think that was a question, was it? He broke the UCMJ, and will face charges.
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Zann-Zel says:
I understand this guy broke the rules - he needs to face the consequences.

But what was the point of the media bringing up charges from years ago? That had nothing to do with what he did here. It just served to discredit the soldier, in order to discredit the politician he was speaking for.
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slownewsday2012 replies:
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They are on autopilot. Dirt-digging behings, I'd guess, about 0.3 second after they hear, well, ANY name.
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