AP/ December 1, 2011, 9:02 PM

Senate OKs $662B defense bill despite veto threat

Afghan detainees are through mesh wire fence inside the Parwan detention facility near Bagram Air Field in Afghanistan, March 23, 2011.

Afghan detainees are through mesh wire fence inside the Parwan detention facility near Bagram Air Field in Afghanistan, March 23, 2011. / AP

WASHINGTON - Congress and the White House are headed for a showdown over a massive, $662 billion defense bill that would require the military to hold suspected terrorists linked to al Qaeda or its affiliates, even those captured on U.S. soil, and detain some indefinitely without trial.

The Senate voted 93-7 Thursday night for the legislation, which must be reconciled with a House-passed version in the closing days of the session. The White House has threatened a veto of the Senate bill over the policies on handling terror suspects and has criticized similar provisions in the House bill.

Overall, the bill would authorize money for military personnel, weapons systems, national security programs in the Energy Department, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in the fiscal year that began Oct. 1. Reflecting a period of austerity and a winding down of decade-old conflicts, the bill is $27 billion less than President Barack Obama requested and $43 billion less than Congress gave the Pentagon this year.

Senate keeps controversial detainee policy in defense bill

In a resounding vote, the Senate unanimously backed an amendment to impose harsh sanctions on Iran as fears about Tehran developing a nuclear weapon outweighed concerns about driving up oil prices that would hit economically strapped Americans at the gas pump.

"Iran's actions are unacceptable and pose a danger to the United States and the entire world," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

In an escalating fight with the White House, the bill would ramp up the role of the military in handling terror suspects. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and FBI Director Robert Mueller both oppose the provisions as does the White House, which said it cannot accept any legislation that "challenges or constrains the president's authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the nation."

Late Thursday, a White House official said the veto threat still stands.

The bill would require military custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of al Qaeda or its affiliates and involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States. American citizens would be exempt. The bill does allow the executive branch to waive the authority based on national security and hold a suspect in civilian custody.

The legislation also would deny suspected terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention.

The series of detention provisions challenges citizens' constitutional rights, tests the boundaries of executive and legislative branch authority and sets up a confrontation with the Democratic commander in chief. Civil rights groups fiercely oppose the bill.

"The bill is an historic threat to American citizens and others because it expands and makes permanent the authority of the president to order the military to imprison without charge or trial American citizens," said Christopher Anders, ACLU senior legislative counsel.

The bill reflects the politically charged dispute over whether to treat suspected terrorists as prisoners of war or criminals. The administration insists that the military, law enforcement and intelligence agents need flexibility in prosecuting the war on terror after they've succeeded in killing Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki.

Republicans counter that their efforts are necessary to respond to an evolving, post-Sept. 11 threat, and that Obama has failed to produce a consistent policy on handling terror suspects.

The House-passed bill would limit Obama's authority to transfer terrorist suspects from the U.S. naval facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to installations in the United States, even for trial. It also would make it difficult for the administration to move detainees to foreign countries.

On Iran, Sens. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., and Mark Kirk, R-Ill., had widespread bipartisan support for their amendment, which would target foreign financial institutions that do business with the Central Bank, barring them from opening or maintaining correspondent operations in the United States. It would apply to foreign central banks only for transactions that involve the sale or purchase of petroleum or petroleum products.

The sanctions on petroleum would only apply if the president determines there is a sufficient alternative supply and if the country with jurisdiction over the financial institution has not significantly reduced its purchases of Iranian oil.

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elitistnot says:
Congress wants to give the military and the Commander in Chief full powers to detains any person anywhere in the world (including in the US) and Newt thinks child labor is cool and we should do it.

If there is anyone who still thinks this government is normal they themselves need a head check. These people are off their $%£^ rocker.
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jaimenote says:
Just Say No!
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karma5230 says:
Veto it.
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democracy8 says:
"The legislation also would deny suspected terrorists, EVEN U.S. CITIZENS seized within the nation's borders, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention."

Completely unacceptable. Entirely contrary to the rights of U.S. citizens as established by the Constitution.
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PatriotitcThinker says:
When they oppressed the blacks, the browns (muslim or otherwise), the gays,etc. the majority of the population let it happen or supported it. The constitution only applies to white christians - not anyone else the majority doesn't like.

We who learned our lessons in history warned that eventually they will oppress us all - as many regimes have done over time. This is not a Obamaor Bush thing, it has been in the works for 3o years.

Right wing "patriots" told us we are bleeding heart liberals, commies and traitors to America. They took one right after another away - in the name of security. Now it has come to this and I say the folks who felt it OK to trample over the rights of some group or other are the real traitors to this nation and its ideals. Ignorant of history because its coolto be uneducated (Palin?). These "American Patriots" enabled the powers that be to go a direction that is dangerous for us all. You Fox Newsies, and Tea Partiers, the apologists for police brutality and corporate misbehavior have taken us down that slippery slop and may end up very badly for this country and the possibly the planet. Traitors and Rascals - all of you.

The Golden rule ensures we all, both as individuals and as a country, will reap what we have sowed. Ben Franklin was right - since we easily surrender our liberty for security, we will get neither.
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democracy8 replies:
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BombasticLeft, you are the poster child for those who, for strictly partisan reasons alone, would choose to shoot themselves in the foot.

This is entirely contrary to the rights of U.S. citizens (including yourself) as established by the Constitution.

Do you support the U.S. Constitution or do you not? It's that simple. You don't appear to.
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Greaterwhiter says:
ask me for the definition of terrorism and i will tell you that is something along the lines of "using scare tactics to manipulate people and obtain desired results". such as; talking about potential nuclear attacks to pass massive spending bills, passing legislature that allows for indefinite imprisonment without trail! the government is making this country as a whole look like it's full of savages. I am so sad to see this. I am truly heart broken. I have heard in my town many young people saying that if there is a civil war they will fight, and im talking about high school seniors and young adults.
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Greaterwhiter says:
NO taxation without representation! I see something coming!
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Greaterwhiter replies:
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tistheseason

who said that the biggest lies and secrets are often hiden in plain sight? notice the plates dont say "no taxation without representation" rather "taxation without representation". avreage joe might say that the "NO" really means nothing. I, I think that evil doers (I pulled a GW right there), will laugh at our faces. why? because it is fun for them and it makes them feel that much more power, to just rub the truth on everyone's faces without anyone actually taking notice much less doing anything about it. "what a bunch of sheep", they must think.
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liquidify says:
Why not go for broke and just make it 666 billion?
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kbbpll says:
At least $100 billion of this goes to the military protection of oil supplies. When is there ever going to be public discussion of this massive subsidy to the oil companies? And that little loophole in the sanctions against Iran - only if we can get enough oil somewhere else - says it all.

Imagine if we spent that $100 billion a year investing in energy independence for the United States. Nevermind the fact that this bill pours gasoline on the lit match up against the Constitution that is the Patriot Act.
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PitsMcgoo replies:
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We should nationalize the oil companies on a cost plus basis.
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speakthetrut says:
These Democrat senators seeking re-election this coming year has been voting with Republicans on many of the important bills that takes away our rights, social structure, and freedom.

I don't really like Republicans, but I think it is time we all join together and defeat back-stabbers like these Dem senators standing for re-election. Lets vote in independents, or some homeless person from the street. I bet any beggar will do a better job than these devils.
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cwong99 replies:
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TistheSeason, Do you not know what kind of power this gives to the military? Our "Freedom" is at stake. Look it up "National Defense Authorization Act."
Greaterwhiter replies:
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right on! they are traitors! they promise "change" but give more of the same! they are ALL laughing their ***** to the bank! There is no government anymore! only corporate power! If we don't do something now our children will be bigger slaves than we are, without a voice or saying to the slaughterhouse. Used like a rag to create more wealth and power for the few!
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