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CBS News/ January 24, 2013, 3:16 PM

A question of access? Mental health and gun violence

President Barack Obama speaks on proposals to reduce gun violence as Vice President Joe Biden watches on January 16, 2013 in the South Court Auditorium of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, next to the White House in Washington, D.C.

President Barack Obama speaks on proposals to reduce gun violence as Vice President Joe Biden watches on January 16, 2013 in the South Court Auditorium of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, next to the White House in Washington, D.C. / MANDEL NGAN / AFP / Getty Images

As President Obama faces opposition from gun rights advocates over his recent proposals to combat gun violence, the challenge he faces of fixing flaws in the mental health care system may prove just as difficult a battle.

Mr. Obama outlined plans aimed at preventing mass shootings and reducing broader gun violence in the United States last week, while signing 23 executive actions that did not require Congressional approval. Alongside proposed changes to gun laws including universal background checks, a stronger ban on assault weapons and new restrictions on ammunition and magazines, mental health emerged as a core feature of the president's plan to prevent further tragedies like the Dec. 14 shooting in Newtown, Conn.

The executive actions related to mental health included:

  • A letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities
  • Incentives for schools to hire school resource officers
  • A letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover
  • Finalization of regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within health insurance exchanges
  • A commitment to finalizing mental health parity regulations
  • The launch of a national dialogue led by the departments of Health and Human Services and Education on mental health
  • A Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence
  • Clarification that the new health care law does not prohibit doctors from asking their patients about guns in their homes

Noting that it was the first of its kind to focus on mental health since 2007 -- and long overdue -- Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin chaired a hearing of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Thursday.

Harkin laid out that while Newtown has brought the issue to the forefront of discussion, mental illness only accounts for a small proportion of violent crimes.

Experts estimate only a small percentage of violent crimes -- less than 5 percent -- are caused by mentally ill people.

"People with mental illness are much more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than perpetrators of violence," said Harkin, who called mental health care's shortcomings a public health problem.

A common theme throughout the hearing was to avoid stigmatizing people with mental illness while discussing gun violence and problems facing mental health care.

Pamela S. Hyde, administrator for the government's Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) laid out the scope of the mental health care problem during the hearing (video at left). Of the 45 million U.S. adults suffering from mental illness, only 38.5 percent receive the treatment they need, she said. For children, only one in five receive necessary treatment for diagnosable mental disorders. Despite showing symptoms, many children and adults experience significant delays getting into treatment. Hyde argues that if the system shifts to a focus on early intervention, more people can be helped.

"Cost, access and recognition of the problems are the primary reason this treatment is not received. However it doesn't have to be this way," said Hyde. "For most of these conditions, prevention works, treatment is effective and people do in fact recover."

Mental health care spending has been dramatically cut in recent years. A 2011 report from the National Alliance on Mental Health that looked at state-by-state mental health budgets reported $1.6 billion in state funding cuts from 2009 through 2012. Medicaid cuts at this time also negatively affected mental health care, the report showed. States are mulling increases in funding in light of the Newtown shooting.

And the health care system may only become more burdened in the near future: A July 2012 study by the Institute of Medicine, an advisory medical organization to the government, found an aging baby boomer population could cause a mental health care crisis by 2030, when the number of U.S. seniors is expected to double and necessary resources will be woefully lacking.

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Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, chairman of psychiatry at Columbia University Medical Center in New York City, told CBS News senior correspondent John Miller in December that mental health care is a societal problem because the U.S. has not taken on the treatment of mental illness as effectively as it could.

"I think mental health is a big issue," Lieberman said at the time. "It's definitely related to the frequency of these seemingly senseless and wanton killings that occur. And the way it relates is that unfortunately, individuals who have specific forms of mental illness, if untreated, can be more prone to act in a way which is socially destructive and results in harm or killing like we saw happen."

Lieberman said a person who needs treatment for mental illness often faces barriers such as insurance coverage and accessibility to care, in addition to stigma -- while people getting treated for a disease like cancer face fewer "disincentives" to getting the best care.

Following the president's announcement, Lieberman told CBSNews.com that the new proposals are "on the right track" in terms of addressing issues in the mental health system, but much work remains to clarify how these actions will be implemented.

By getting more people with mental illness, impulse disorders and substance abuse issues into constant treatment, he said, they may be prevented from ever getting to a point where they are showing symptoms of mental illness -- and acting on violent impulses.

"Trying to say we should only do something when they get dangerous is very late in the process," said Lieberman.

Details on the president's proposals still need to be worked out, said Lieberman, who is also president-elect of the American Psychiatric Association. For example, the Mental Health Parity Act, which the president wanted to finalize in his executive actions, requires that mental health benefits are covered by insurance, similar to non-psychiatric health care benefits. However, the rules to determine what services are covered, how people become reimbursed and other stipulations have not been established, he said. The president also asked for clarification on Medicaid mental health services, which now typically covers people who have severe forms of mental illness. Lieberman argues policymakers may find that these services are not adequate, and broader services are needed.

Right now, doctors cannot provide mental health care services in what Lieberman refers to as a "financially viable way." He explains that patients seeking help for mental health may require a lot of support, not only from a doctor who may provide medication, but from therapists, case managers and social and vocational rehabilitation counselors who need to be more actively involved in the patient's lives. These team-based "multi-element treatment approaches" have been shown in studies to be effective, however these types of paid services just aren't available for people suffering from mental health problems. Meanwhile, a person with heart disease may see a cardiologist, a surgeon, a different doctor about stent management, a nutritionist for lifestyle tips, and other providers all covered by insurance.

"In mental health care it's the same thing -- you can't just see a psychiatrist and get a prescription," he said. "This is not just throwing different services at the problem, there's good evidence that these things work."

Dr. Jeffrey Swanson, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Duke University School of Medicine, who has published several research papers on gun violence and mental health for more than a decade, agrees the current mental health system represents a complex public health problem facing the United States.

"The mental health system in the country, if you can call it that, is fragmented and grossly under-resourced," Swanson told CBSNews.com in an email. "It needs a lot of things, and more research into how to fix it -- at a time when there are more mentally ill people incarcerated than in hospitals -- is one of the needed things," he said.

A 2011 paper by Swanson published in Psychiatric Services examines the lack of data available on firearm use against strangers, and how it is impossible to reliably predict which specific individuals would engage in the most serious acts of violence.

But even if more CDC research stemming from the president's proposals strengthens the available data pool, Swanson argues these egregious acts of violence may still be impossible to predict.

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Can a mental disorder make someone violent?

"I think more access to evidence-based treatment and less access to guns, taken together, would have an impact on gun violence, at least on the margins. But prevent mass shootings? That's hard to say," Swanson said. "Those are almost inherently unpredictable, and often perpetrated by people with no gun-disqualifying mental health or criminal record -- until it's too late. Most of the measures in the President's proposal, even if enacted and implemented perfectly, would not necessarily have prevented the shootings in Tucson, Aurora, or Newtown."

While concerns persist on how the president's proposals will be implemented, the announcement was supported by various health organizations that had previously submitted recommendations to Vice President Joe Biden's White House Task Force on Gun Violence Prevention.

"NAMI applauds the President's plan for its significant provisions to strengthen and expand mental health services," Michael Fitzpatrick, executive director of the National Alliance on Mental Illness said in a statement following the proposals. "The mental health care system has long been broken. The challenge is not to fix it, but to build it anew, focusing on early screening, diagnosis, treatment and prevention. The President's plan takes important steps toward meeting that challenge."

Dr. Dilip V. Jeste, president of the American Psychiatric Association, added in statement, "We are heartened that the Administration plans to finalize rules governing mental health parity under the 2008 Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act, the Affordable Care Act, and Medicaid. "We are glad that the President has clarified that doctors are not prohibited from asking their patients about guns in their homes. The APA has consistently advocated for such a position."

The American Academy of Pediatrics also offered its support.

"In addition to addressing firearm regulations, we must improve access to quality mental health care both to help prevent violent acts and to assist victims of trauma," AAP President Dr. Thomas K. McInerny, said in a statement following the proposals. "The AAP agrees with the President that we must improve the identification of mental illnesses through increased screening, address inadequate insurance coverage and high out-of-pocket costs that create barriers to access, strengthen the overall quality of mental health access, and improve and expand the Medicaid reimbursement policy to include mental health and developmental services.

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MSISTEPMINSTREL says:
IF YOU ARE CHEWING XANAX AND/OR/ SSRI's LIKE CANDY---HEY IDIOT! YOU DON'T NEED TO BE PAWING A FIREARM!
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MrLiterally says:
Abortion Violence is 3,500 innocent lives per day. Why are we talking about guns?
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raymailhot says:
This wack job "Hyde" believes we need more psychiatric care in America? Why does America have a 20 percent need for mental health care? There is a failure in this industry, but having the count not high enough is a ploy for more money. We never get return off these government investments. All of this is a play for federal dollars when the rest of America is screaming to stop this crazy spending.
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eroteme2 says:
A while back there was a 'study' by a 'researcher' that explained one out of four of us suffer from mental health problems. Fortunately I am one of the three, I hope. We learn so much from valuable studies by researchers. Another study by a researcher that brought new knowledge to me was the one that found school girl pregnancies result from their addiction to motherhood. Looking forward to be informed by the next study by researchers, we are normally blessed by several almost every day.
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MrLiterally says:
To penalize mental health is to stigmatize it. If a therapist can cause a person to lose is or her gun rights, then that gun owner has a reason to not see the therapist and to tackle their mental illness on their own.
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legalbutunjust replies:
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There's only so many ways a therapist could ever find out about a patient's history or present state of having possession of a gun(s).

The most obvious way is for the patient to volunteer the information, or be asked a specific question or set of questions, and for the patient to answer or acknowledge having ownership or access to guns. Ownership and access are not the same thing, either.

And patients can lie, as well. What penalties exist for doing so usually go back to the terms of, and reasons for, care, and seeing the person to begin with.

If the therapy to the person is through a court order or mandated sentence requirement that is current, I imagine lying to the therapist could lead to further legal problems potentially, for the patient.

That's really the point at which you are more a "client" with a court-ordered business arrangement between a psychiatrist and a judge, or at least that judge's court and the person accused.

In many instances of court-required treatment with a licensed, accredited treatment specialist, other provisions in a case involving sentence or even pre-sentence supervision, subject the defendant/convicted person to home searches and possible seizures. Not all of these people, if they do possess a firearm, are convicted felons or are even charged with a felony. Certain court programs of supervision including treatment are more stringent than others.

I do think it would be a good step to mandate all courts processing criminal cases, felony or misdemeanor, run gun background checks for ALL defendants after arrest. That may help the problem for sure, but it also simply won't stop all instances of an unstable person to act with a gun in a threatening manner, even those that possess them legally and doing such.
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Jesus_to_ground_control says:
Bullet Holes

What happens when someone with no history of mental illness buys a gun and then uses the gun in a fit of rage or just plain meanness? Your plan to stop the killings is full of (bullet) holes, Mr. President!
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MrLiterally replies:
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If you are really serious about stopping the senseless sacrifice of innocent lives, focusing on gun control is missing the mark. Take a look at abortion; 1,300,000 lives per year.
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KansasCity-2012 says:
This nation behaves like a sleeping giant when mental health is brought up.

People roll their eyes and try to change the subject or do anything to avoid participating in a conversation about it.

There is always the popular issue that those who suffer mental health issues have so few people they can trust to guide them, and still many avoid professional help.

There is also the hysterical resentment of those who hold professional licenses fearing loss of their certificates if their personal mental health issues were discovered by licensing authorities.

Many people have no health care coverage and some that do have no coverage for mental health needs.

I think the President is doing the best thing by tearing down barriers that exist between those with mental health needs and the help they need.

Numerous mental health professionals and counselors have already saved untold numbers of lives when given the chance to provide their services.
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akibeel replies:
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"I think the President is doing the best thing by tearing down barriers that exist between those with mental health needs and the help they need."
The Nazi's thought they were doing the best thing for the mentally ill as well; tearing down the barriers that kept them from getting to the mentally ill.
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curtis41 says:
My main concern about these mental health considerations is that they may in some cases, unfairly and negatively impact veterans who sought mental health access within the VA system. A stringent yardstick would include those who are likely or have been dangerous to themselves and to others. Mental health access and delivery have been severely reduced by forcing release of large numbers of patients onto the streets years ago, without the treatment and additional support they need, so I agree that this is a courageous, if not overdue, undertaking.
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jeffkro says:
Its true there have been a few shootings by mentally ill people but by a long shot most shooting are by people with no history of mental illness.
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DAMCUE replies:
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You are correct that most shootings in the USA are not by people with mental illness. The majority are by gang members who are shooting rival gang members over turf where they sell drugs.

The man in the article linked below is a felon who killed his mother and was diagnosed as possibly schizophrenic, yet was legally allowed to purchase guns. His neighbors even reported him to the police last July for shooting guns in the backyard. This very easily could have turned out like some of the other high profile gun massacres we have seen lately.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/17/guns-convicted-felon-murderer/1566414/

These types of paperwork screwups are what lead to the tragedies we are seeing unfold. Their answer is to pass more laws that infringe on the rights of law abiding citizens. I have an idea, how about not letting these mentally ill people slip through the cracks? Here are a few more examples:


- (Virginia Tech Shooter Seung-Hui Cho) was found to be "mentally ill and in need of hospitalization" and suspected of being "an imminent danger to himself or others" in 2005. However, he was allowed to slip through the cracks and legally purchase guns.
- (Gabby Giffords shooter Jared Lee Loughner) Caught and arrested for drugs and kicked out of college for bizarre behavior. The college told Loughner that if he wanted to return, he needed to resolve his code of conduct violations and obtain a mental health clearance (indicating, in the opinion of a mental health professional, that his presence did not constitute a danger to himself or others). On October 4, Loughner and his parents met with campus administrators and Loughner indicated he would withdraw from the college. After the shooting he was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia. Once again there were lots of warning signs that were ignored and he was allowed to legally purchase a gun.

- (Aurora Movie Theater shooter James Eagan Holmes) He met with multiple mental health providers at his college and reportedly told one of the Psychiatrists that he wanted to kill people. She met with campus security but did not follow up once he dropped out. The warning signs were there but ignored and he was able to legally buy guns. There is now a lawsuit against the Psychiatrist.

- (Sandy Hook Shooter Adam Lanza) He had a personality disorder and his mother was reportedly preparing to institutionalize him. It was also reported that he had gotten into an altercation at the school the day before the shooting. He went to a local store to buy a gun but left when he found out about the waiting period. He should never have had access to the guns in the household. If his mother had kept them in a safe with a combination he was not given the massacre may have been prevented.

All of this time and effort is being put into an "Assault Weapons" ban and "High Capacity" magazine ban and then you see a little blurb about mental health in their plans. If they put some real work into spotting and getting help for these people with mental health issues then you could probably eliminate a significant number of these massacres. I would like to see them do a better job of also dealing with bullying. You combine that with getting rid of the moronic "Gun Free" zones and you all but eliminate these high profile shootings.
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johnlockesghost says:
"Experts estimate only a small percentage of violent crimes -- less than 5 percent -- are caused by mentally ill people."---I wonder what the basis is for these "experts" conclusions? It would seem to me that anyone planning violence to one or more victims and then executing their plan and killing and/or maiming people are already suffering from a mental disability. Violent action and/or mental instability may not be a perpetrators mental history, but it most assuredly is the root cause of mass murders.
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jeffkro replies:
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Most murders are committed over money, jealousy, love, etc. Random acts of violence are rare.
Rocket_USA replies:
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That is more that are killed by a rife each year which is only 2.28% of all unjustifiable homicides.

Can we get a number for those killed by career criminals?
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