Afghans fume over transfer of accused U.S. gunman
Afghan policemen are seen at the scene of a bomb explosion in Kandahar south of Kabul, Afghanistan, March 14, 2012. / AP Photo/Allauddin khan
(CBS/AP) KABUL, Afghanistan - Afghan lawmakers expressed anger Thursday over the U.S. move to fly an American soldier accused of killing 16 civilians out of the country to Kuwait, saying Kabul shouldn't sign a strategic partnership agreement with Washington unless the suspect faces justice in Afghanistan.
Shortly after, Afghan President Hamid Karzai demanded that international troops pull out of villages and rural areas to main bases and let Afghan forces take the lead for countrywide security in 2013, a year ahead of schedule.
Negotiations over the agreement governing the presence of U.S. forces in Afghanistan were tense even before the shooting deaths of the civilians, including nine children, in southern Kandahar province on Sunday.
The killings came in the wake of violent protests last month triggered by American soldiers who burned Korans and other Islamic texts. Over 30 people were killed in those demonstrations, and Afghan forces turned their guns on their supposed allies, killing six U.S. soldiers.
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The public response to the shooting spree has been much more muted, partly because senior Afghan officials have used their influence to persuade citizens not to hold demonstrations.
The U.S. flew the suspect out of the country on Wednesday evening, said U.S. officials. The U.S. military said the transfer did not preclude the possibility of trying the case in Afghanistan.
But that didn't appease Afghans upset at the move.
"It was the demand of the families of the martyrs of this incident, the people of Kandahar and the people of Afghanistan to try him publicly in Afghanistan," said Mohammad Naeem Lalai Hamidzai, a Kandahar lawmaker who is part of a parliamentary commission investigating the shootings.
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CBS News correspondent David Martin reports that Defense Department spokesman Capt. John Kirby said the suspect was moved because "we do not have an appropriate detention facility in Afghanistan" and that the move was made on the legal recommendation of the command's lawyer.
A second official told Martin that it was done with the knowledge and approval of Karzai.
Moving the suspect will allow the U.S. to provide pretrial confinement, access to legal representation and the ability to ensure fair and proper judicial proceedings, said U.S. Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparotti, deputy commander of American forces in Afghanistan.
Afghan government officials have not responded to request for comment on the transfer.
In Kuwait, U.S. Army spokesman Lt. Col. David Patterson said Thursday that the detention unit there, known as a Theater Field Confinement Facility, holds pre-trial detainees and post-trial confinees for a limited amount of time.
He would not confirm any further details about the case.
The Kuwait detention facilities have been used for other U.S. troops. The most prominent detainee recently was Army PFC Bradley Manning, who was held there after he was taken into custody in Baghdad in 2010 for allegedly leaking government documents in the WikiLeaks case.
Abdul Khaliq Balakarzai, another Kandahar lawmaker, said Karzai should respond to the U.S. decision to move the soldier by refusing to sign the strategic partnership agreement governing NATO troop presence in the country.
"If the trial was in Afghanistan, the people would see that America doesn't like this soldier and wants to punish him," said Balakarzai. "But unfortunately America ignored our demand."
Haji Abdul Ghani, a tribal elder from the area of Panjwai district where the shooting spree occurred, warned the U.S. move would cause "people to rise up and increase the hostility between Afghanistan and America."
Members of a high-level delegation sent by Karzai to investigate the killings have largely prevented demonstrations so far by calling tribal leaders and urging them to calm down locals, said Afghan officials and villagers.
There has only been one significant protest since the killings. About 1,000 students demonstrated Tuesday in the eastern city of Jalalabad, shouting anti-American slogans and burning an effigy of President Barack Obama.
U.S. officials have expressed shock and sadness over the massacre and have promised a thorough investigation. But they have resisted calls both at home and in Afghanistan to speed up the withdrawal of American troops in the wake of the tragedy.
U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited Afghanistan on Wednesday, the first American official to visit the country since the shootings.
On Thursday, Panetta met with Karzai in an effort to repair relations, telling the Afghan leader that the U.S. remains committed to staying the course in Afghanistan until the planned withdrawal of combat troops in 2014. He also acknowledged that the U.S. had made a series of mistakes, including the shooting, the Koran burning and a video uncovered earlier this year showing Marines apparently urinating on dead militants.
Karzai said he delivered the message about hastening the NATO transfer of security responsibility to Panetta during that meeting.
Panetta's visit was marred by a bizarre incident Wednesday in which an Afghan man crashed a stolen truck at an airfield in southern Afghanistan as the defense secretary's plane was landing and then exited the vehicle in flames.
Scaparotti, the deputy U.S. commander, told reporters traveling with Panetta in Kabul that he believed the man — an interpreter working for foreign forces — was targeting a group of U.S. Marines assembled on the ramp. He said it would have been difficult to know which plane the defense secretary was aboard.
"There was a puff of smoke and he came out engulfed in flames," Scaparotti said.
Panetta told reporters he does not believe he was the target. He was told on the plane that it was being diverted to another landing site. But he was not aware of the truck incident until later.
No one in Panetta's party was hurt.
The man who stole the vehicle died Thursday of extensive burns, said Scaparotti.
Authorities were not able to talk to or get any information from the driver before he died.
A U.S. military official said a British soldier was injured when he tried to stop the driver from stealing the truck on the base. The Afghan man hit the British soldier with the truck as he was driving away. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the incident is still being investigated.
The U.S. Army staff sergeant accused of carrying out the shooting spree in Kandahar has been identified as a married, 38-year-old father of two who was trained as a sniper and had served three tours in Iraq, where he recently suffered a head injury.
The U.S. has not released the name of the soldier partly because of security concerns for the individual and his family, said Scaparotti.
The U.S. soldier allegedly slipped out of his small base in southern Afghanistan before dawn Sunday, crept into three houses and shot men, women and children at close range, then burned some of the bodies. By sunrise, there were 16 corpses.
The suspect was taken into custody shortly afterward.
The soldier's trial is not the only point of contention in the case. The U.S. has said the killings were carried out by a single shooter, but some Afghan officials and local villagers have insisted that at least two soldiers were involved.
On Thursday, six civilians, including four women and two children, were killed when their vehicle was struck by a roadside bomb in southern Uruzgan province, said police spokesman Fareed Ilayal.
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Well Big-Daddy, I believe that it has already been reported that the Army is considering this a death penalty case.
Considering is one thing, but it will never happen. This guy had a TBI and there is no way he will ever be executed.....
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I doubt we will hang him. If he can be proven to have been driven past his breaking point by numerous deployments or events in Afghanistan? I can see him being put into a mental institution and then let out scott free.
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This shooting, while completely wrong, is not so hard to understand when everything is taken into perspective. No wonder some of our soldiers are losing control, committing suicide and atrocities against others.
The soldiers, especially ground troops, are no longer just in the service of their country they are in a torture chamber 24/7.
When actual war is declared the goal from the start is to win by any and all necessary means.
In World War 2 the enemy wore uniforms and were readily recognizable. Earlier in Vietnam and Iraq, the troops never knew who the enemy was until they were actually fired upon. This Situation is even greater now in Afghanistan. Not only is the enemy blending in with the general population but also the very (Supposedly) Afghan soldiers our troops are training to take over the responsibility for their own defense are now turning against them in increasing numbers.
This is another version of suicide bombing, but one in which there is absolutely no defense. The fact that they are carrying weapons is no warning because they are supposed to be armed. Our troops not only have to train but also go on patrol with them never knowing when one of these killers may turn their guns on them.
Just imagine yourself in this situation every moment of every day, tour after tour. How long would the average human be able to maintain their sanity?
Yeah, we have a tendency to ignore "demands" put to us by anyone. We might be more willing to work with the Afghans to resolve this issue if they'd stop demanding this and that and knock off the treats.
Afghan soil. What is the purpose of setting up an Afghan government if we won't allow them to handle their own affairs. So we don't like their system of justice. Who cares. Let the man face justice by the people he committed the injustice on.
Another thing. This man was treated for a brain injury after his last deployment. He was treated at the facility in Washington state which is being investigated for cutting short the mental treatment of army personnel because it cost too much. The boss of this hospital was just recently relieved of his job so there must be something rotten there. This same facility released this GI for his fourth deployment. I'm not saying he shouldn't be held accountable but I am saying that there might be a whole lot more to his story which needs to be investigated before we hang the poor guy.
As for the soldier who killed the 16 civilians; He had served 3 tour of duty in Iraq, that's probably enough to put any of us over the edge. It is just sad, sad for the Afghnan people and so sad for America.
The Afghans are saying that more than one soldier is involved. And I have to wonder---it's not like the U.S. Army is being all forthcoming about what happened. We don't even know the soldier's name.