CBS News/ March 11, 2012, 2:03 PM

What might Kandahar shootings mean for U.S.?

A man sits in the back of a truck with the bodies of several men and a child allegedly killed by a U.S. service member in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012.

A man sits in the back of a truck with the bodies of several men and a child allegedly killed by a U.S. service member in Panjwai, Kandahar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, March 11, 2012. / AP Photo/Allauddin Khan

Analysis by CBS News Afghanistan consultant Jere van Dyk

(CBS News) Every Afghan village, no matter how isolated, has a radio. And by now every Afghan in the country (and in Pakistan) will know that a U.S. soldier committed mass murder against innocent, unarmed Afghan Pashtun civilians, including women and children.

How could an American soldier carrying his weapon leave his squad, exit his a fire base alone, with guards all around, and walk into an Afghan village without someone saying something?

Where were his squad members? Where was his sergeant?

No American soldier, in my observation, has ever gone anywhere alone in Afghanistan. Always they go with other soldiers on patrol or to a meeting, and at the very least with an interpreter.

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Many Pashtuns, even those high up in the Afghan government, feel that the U.S. is at war with the Pashtuns. The Taliban are Pashtuns. Even today, over a hundred years after the British left, Afghan mothers tell their children to be good or the British will get them. Will they say the same about the U.S.? Is this our legacy?

There have been many incidents, some of them perhaps accidental - helicopters shooting boys when they are gathering firewood. But to my memory, except for Sgt. Calvin Gibbs of the Stryker Brigade out of Ft. Lewis, not one U.S. soldier to date has ever been punished for killing innocent Afghans.

Gibbs was convicted last November of murdering and mutilating three Afghans, and given life imprisonment, but he will be eligible for parole in ten years.

The Afghans will want justice (just as relatives of victims in the U.S. do), and they will watch this closely. If the perpetrator gets off easily, this will do irreparable damage to the U.S. effort in Kandahar - capital of the Pashtun nation and home to the Taliban movement.

Graham Fuller, a former high CIA official, said recently that in his view the Taliban are motivated primarily by nationalism, not religion. Based upon my experiences, I agree. They will use this to maximum effect to rally villagers to oppose, in every form, the U.S. presence.

I have been told, but cannot prove (although it seems logical) that many members of the Taliban are those whose family members were killed by U.S. bombs or by other means.

Unless the U.S. does something quickly to appease the relatives of those killed, every male member of the extended families will want revenge.

President Hamid Karzai has been adamant that U.S. night raids on villages have to stop. The U.S. has said that they are necessary. This will hurt the U.S. position.

This tragedy may further exacerbate tensions in the U.S.

Although the mood toward Afghanistan in America is much different from what the nation's mood was toward Vietnam - and the mood of the American public toward the U.S. Army is completely different from what it was during that war - this incident is similar to 1968, when Green Beret Lt. William Calley and his men murdered and mutilated between 300 and 500 Vietnamese villagers.

The U.S. Army tried to cover this up, but reporter Seymour Hirsch uncovered it. It divided pro-war and anti-war backers in the U.S. and further polarized an already-divided country. Many felt that Calley, and the soldiers involved, should not be punished, and President Carter proceeded carefully. Calley was eventually placed under house arrest for three years, nothing more, and the other soldiers were let off. U.S. politicians denounced those soldiers in Calley's unit who had complained about what Calley and their fellow soldiers had done.

It may be difficult for President Obama to apologize for this incident because the GOP candidates were angry that he apologized for U.S. soldiers burning the Quran. Many people in America will take the side of the soldier. The Afghans will be watching. It will not be pretty.

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rainbowroosie says:
No mattter what the US does, it will prompt revenge attacks....
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Ugok says:
What might Kandahar shootings mean for U.S.?
It isn't murder at all; the victims were not US citizens and the heinous crime was not committed in US soil.
It's acceptable "collateral damage" and supposedly justified by Panetta's declaration that "War is hell".
And by the way: who brought war in Afghanistan? The U.S. or the Taliban?
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omnibus66 replies:
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So it is only murder if you kill a US citizen? Suggest you go to France or England or Germany and gun down a few passers by and see what it gets you. You are an idiot.
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noloyalisti says:
We need to get away from the energy technology of the 1800's. Finally. President Carter tried to warn us of this but we listened to the wackos like Reagan and his pretend free market.

This incident is just another sad chapter of the oil corporations sending our poor kids where they should not be. What do they care, it's not their kids or their money.
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ConSense replies:
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Do you make this stuff up or do you copy it from some other degenerate moron?
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noloyalisti says:
So the US terror machine call him a rogue soldier. How do the Afghanis know that? How do you distinguish this murder from what the military has been doing there for 10 years. We need to accept our mistake and our next defeat (in something that had no winning possible except for Exxon and Chevron) and get out. NOW.
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peter_out replies:
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Bush had a police action going in Afganistan. Obama escallated it to a war at a cost of a $1 Trillion a year. Afganistan and Pakistan are about this President's notion that he must prove himself in battle. The battle has turned now on this tragedy.

This poor American soldier coming apart on his 4th tour, and the poor innocent Afgani people killed and injured, need justice. A starting point would be for the US to turn this soldier over to Afganistan. Give Afganistan their right of justice in their own country. Give them the oportunity to show mercy to this American soldier.
noloyalisti replies:
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Obama, as an American figurehead, just follows the orders of the giant corporations who run the military. It is an American tragedy that we cannot seem to stop our imperial ways in the middle east area.
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GoadsWife says:
Do not judge this soldier, whom we know nothing about nor walked a mile in his shoes (most of us wouldn't walk a mile in his shoes to see, hear, or do what his has in all 3 tours he's been on ).... May our government should get our troops out of Afghanistan and finally let our soldiers get the help they need, not come home get help then turn around and deploy again. These soldiers have been at this crap for 10 years now..... LET THEM COME HOME!!
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noloyalisti replies:
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We were tricked by the oil corporations to go in there in the first place. I can't believe how many people bought their lies and propaganda and supported this disaster.
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LisaLyteman says:
The guy obviously went off the deep end. Lets not over analyze it, we all know it not going to help the situation. If we could get a McDonalds over there we could pack up and go home.
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BOKP says:
The U.S. is under tremendous pressure. Stray incidents would happen as one cannot identify a foe from a friend. And muslims are seen as anti-Americans. Also, all may not be terrorists, but all are extremists. It can be judged by the reaction to burning their religious book - protests and killing of U.S. soldiers. They are burning the Holy Bibles in thousands every year. Yet, no violent reaction from Christians. The U.S. army has my sympathy.
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michaelz06 says:
The jerk who wrote this "analysis" wishes to condemn the entire military, well before anyone knows what the circumstances were, or what this particular individual's issues might be. That is not analysis, that is merely seizing any opportunity to present your obviously slanted opinion.
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UForgotPoland says:
Soldiers and marines are trained for COMBAT not nation building.
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MichaelGaree says:
To: zigzagtom

I couldn't agree more with your comments. People are people, regardless of their religious beliefs, political persuasions, etc., and deserve to be treated with respect and dignity, until they give the rest of us some reason(s) to treat them otherwise. Indeed, most people are good, peace-loving people, while a constant minority are anything but. ALL people should be treated equally.

Michael Garee
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