White House: No Afghanistan Pullout
President Barack Obama won't walk away from the flagging war in Afghanistan, the White House declared Monday as Obama faced tough decisions - and intense administration debate - over choices that could help define his presidency in his first year as commander in chief.
The fierce Taliban attack that killed eight American soldiers over the weekend added to the pressure. The assault overwhelmed a remote U.S. outpost where American forces have been stretched thin in battling insurgents, underscoring an appeal from Obama's top Afghanistan commander for as many as 40,000 additional forces - and at the same time reminding the nation of the costs of war.
Afghanistan: The Road Ahead
Obama's defense secretary, Robert Gates, appealed Monday for calm - and for time and privacy for the president to come to a decision.
Last week the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, called publicly for the administration to add more resources, which prompted a mild rebuke from Obama's national security adviser, James Jones, for lobbying in public.
Related: McChrystal on "60 Minutes"
Obama may take weeks to decide whether to add more troops, but the idea of pulling out isn't on the table as a way to deal with a war nearing its ninth year, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.
"I don't think we have the option to leave. That's quite clear," Gibbs said.
The question of whether to further escalate the conflict after adding 21,000 U.S. troops earlier this year is a major decision facing Obama and senior administration policy advisers this week.
Obama also invited a bipartisan group of congressional leaders to the White House on Tuesday to confer about the war. And Obama will meet twice this week with his top national security advisers.
"e've had a strategy without an appropriate focus on the problems in Afghanistan. It's been a strategy for eight years focused on Iraq. Afghanistan has suffered for the lack of resources, lack of strategy, lack of coordination, corruption of government and all of that now we have to try to undo in a very short span of time," Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., told "CBS Evening News" anchor Katie Couric in an interview Monday.
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Gates said Monday that Obama needs elbow room to make strategy decisions about the war - as the internal White House debate goes increasingly public.
"It is important that we take our time to do all we can to get this right," Gates said at an Army conference. "In this process, it is imperative that all of us taking part in these deliberations - civilians and military alike - provide our best advice to the president candidly but privately."
Gates has not said whether he supports McChrystal's recommendation to expand the number of U.S. forces by as much as nearly 60 percent. He is holding that request in his desk drawer while Obama sorts through competing recommendations and theories from some of his most trusted advisers.
"I believe that the decisions that the president will make for the next stage of the Afghanistan campaign will be among the most important of his presidency," Gates said.
In trying to blunt the impression that the White House and military are at odds, Gates did not name names. But his remarks came days after McChrystal bluntly warned in London that Afghan insurgents are gathering strength. Any plan that falls short of stabilizing Afghanistan "is probably a shortsighted strategy," the general said.
For his part, Jones, a retired four-star Marine general, said of McChrystal's comments that is "better for military advice to come up through the chain of command," said Jones.
At issue is whether U.S. forces should continue to focus on fighting the Taliban and securing the Afghan population, or shift to more narrowly targeting al Qaeda terrorists believed to be hiding in Pakistan with unmanned spy drones and covert operations.
Gates and some other advisers appear to favor a middle path. A hybrid strategy could preserve the essential outline of an Afghan counterinsurgency campaign that McChrystal rebuilt this summer from the disarray of nearly eight years of undermanned combat, while expanding the hunt for al Qaeda next door.
"Speaking for the Department of Defense, once the commander in chief makes his decisions, we will salute and execute those decisions faithfully and to the best of our ability," Gates told the annual meeting of the Association of the U.S. Army.
The top three U.S. military officials overseeing the war in Afghanistan favor continuing the current fight against the Taliban, and have concluded they need tens of thousands more U.S. troops beyond the 68,000 already there.
Officials across the Obama administration have acknowledged that the Taliban is far stronger now than in recent years, as underscored by the U.S. deaths in Nuristan province.
The fighting Saturday marked the biggest loss of U.S. life in a single Afghan battle in more than a year. It also raised questions about why U.S. troops remained in the remote outposts after McChrystal said he planned to close down isolated strongholds and focus on more heavily populated areas as part of his new strategy to focus on protecting Afghan civilians.
Army Secretary John McHugh said Monday that the attacks and the mission behind them are being reviewed by commanders in Afghanistan.
"There's far more questions that the theater is trying to work through than we have definitive answers," McHugh told reporters. "And rather than just jump to conclusions, the theater is working hard and we want to allow them the opportunity to get the correct answers."
Also being considered as part of a potential force increase is the impact on troops who are already stretched thin from fighting in two wars. Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey told reporters that he cannot rule out extending the length soldiers are sent to fight - from 12 months to 15 - although "I would hope we don't get there."
Casey also signaled that the year that soldiers are currently guaranteed at home between deployments could be at risk.
"Simple math: The more troops you have deployed, the less time they'll spend at home," Casey said Monday.
CBS/ AP The fierce Taliban attack that killed eight American soldiers over the weekend added to the pressure. The assault overwhelmed a remote U.S. outpost where American forces have been stretched thin in battling insurgents, underscoring an appeal from Obama's top Afghanistan commander for as many as 40,000 additional forces - and at the same time reminding the nation of the costs of war.
Afghanistan: The Road Ahead
Obama's defense secretary, Robert Gates, appealed Monday for calm - and for time and privacy for the president to come to a decision.
Last week the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, called publicly for the administration to add more resources, which prompted a mild rebuke from Obama's national security adviser, James Jones, for lobbying in public.
Related: McChrystal on "60 Minutes"
Obama may take weeks to decide whether to add more troops, but the idea of pulling out isn't on the table as a way to deal with a war nearing its ninth year, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.
"I don't think we have the option to leave. That's quite clear," Gibbs said.
The question of whether to further escalate the conflict after adding 21,000 U.S. troops earlier this year is a major decision facing Obama and senior administration policy advisers this week.
Obama also invited a bipartisan group of congressional leaders to the White House on Tuesday to confer about the war. And Obama will meet twice this week with his top national security advisers.
"e've had a strategy without an appropriate focus on the problems in Afghanistan. It's been a strategy for eight years focused on Iraq. Afghanistan has suffered for the lack of resources, lack of strategy, lack of coordination, corruption of government and all of that now we have to try to undo in a very short span of time," Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., told "CBS Evening News" anchor Katie Couric in an interview Monday.
A look back at the U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq
Divided on Afghanistan, Congress takes up a massive defense spending bill this week even before the president settles on a direction for the war.
Gates said Monday that Obama needs elbow room to make strategy decisions about the war - as the internal White House debate goes increasingly public.
"It is important that we take our time to do all we can to get this right," Gates said at an Army conference. "In this process, it is imperative that all of us taking part in these deliberations - civilians and military alike - provide our best advice to the president candidly but privately."
Gates has not said whether he supports McChrystal's recommendation to expand the number of U.S. forces by as much as nearly 60 percent. He is holding that request in his desk drawer while Obama sorts through competing recommendations and theories from some of his most trusted advisers.
"I believe that the decisions that the president will make for the next stage of the Afghanistan campaign will be among the most important of his presidency," Gates said.
In trying to blunt the impression that the White House and military are at odds, Gates did not name names. But his remarks came days after McChrystal bluntly warned in London that Afghan insurgents are gathering strength. Any plan that falls short of stabilizing Afghanistan "is probably a shortsighted strategy," the general said.
For his part, Jones, a retired four-star Marine general, said of McChrystal's comments that is "better for military advice to come up through the chain of command," said Jones.
At issue is whether U.S. forces should continue to focus on fighting the Taliban and securing the Afghan population, or shift to more narrowly targeting al Qaeda terrorists believed to be hiding in Pakistan with unmanned spy drones and covert operations.
Gates and some other advisers appear to favor a middle path. A hybrid strategy could preserve the essential outline of an Afghan counterinsurgency campaign that McChrystal rebuilt this summer from the disarray of nearly eight years of undermanned combat, while expanding the hunt for al Qaeda next door.
"Speaking for the Department of Defense, once the commander in chief makes his decisions, we will salute and execute those decisions faithfully and to the best of our ability," Gates told the annual meeting of the Association of the U.S. Army.
The top three U.S. military officials overseeing the war in Afghanistan favor continuing the current fight against the Taliban, and have concluded they need tens of thousands more U.S. troops beyond the 68,000 already there.
Officials across the Obama administration have acknowledged that the Taliban is far stronger now than in recent years, as underscored by the U.S. deaths in Nuristan province.
The fighting Saturday marked the biggest loss of U.S. life in a single Afghan battle in more than a year. It also raised questions about why U.S. troops remained in the remote outposts after McChrystal said he planned to close down isolated strongholds and focus on more heavily populated areas as part of his new strategy to focus on protecting Afghan civilians.
Army Secretary John McHugh said Monday that the attacks and the mission behind them are being reviewed by commanders in Afghanistan.
"There's far more questions that the theater is trying to work through than we have definitive answers," McHugh told reporters. "And rather than just jump to conclusions, the theater is working hard and we want to allow them the opportunity to get the correct answers."
Also being considered as part of a potential force increase is the impact on troops who are already stretched thin from fighting in two wars. Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey told reporters that he cannot rule out extending the length soldiers are sent to fight - from 12 months to 15 - although "I would hope we don't get there."
Casey also signaled that the year that soldiers are currently guaranteed at home between deployments could be at risk.
"Simple math: The more troops you have deployed, the less time they'll spend at home," Casey said Monday.
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We've heard the "We can't cut and run" lies before, boys and girls...
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Lyndon Johnson - April 7, 1965:
"Tonight Americans... are dying for a world where each people may choose its own path to change. This is the principle for which our ancestors fought in the valleys of Pennsylvania. It is the principle for which our sons fight tonight in the jungles of Viet-Nam.
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Some 400 young men, born into an America that is bursting with opportunity and promise, have ended their lives on Viet-Nam?s steaming soil. Why must we take this painful road?
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We fight because we must fight if we are to live in a world where every country can shape its own destiny, and only in such a world will our own freedom be finally secure."
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After LBJ made this speech, 58,000 young Americans died so the politicians didn't have to explain why we went there in the first place.
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Today, Bank of America, Intel and Microsoft are building factories and offices in Ho Chi Minh city and pocketing great fortunes.
If there are aliens checking the earth's inhabitants for character, don't you think they might call us primitive and violent, possibly unintelligent, based upon all the political upheavel and wars currently raging.....saying nothing about how we are destroying the natural resources of the planet.
Obama is fast losing my support as his campaign promises are NOT being fulfilled. If you cannot be as good as your word, then you are valueless. He has yet to begin bringing home our troops from Iraq, and now we are getting ever so deeper entrenched in Afghanistan. Take a closer look at our own countryside, and see ALL the consequences of the costs of this war machine.....loss of jobs, factories, and collapsing of state governments. Taxes are being imposed upon citizenry via increases in areas of real estate taxes, driver licenses, fines and court costs, sales tax, etc, etc. Not just a ten per cent increase, but some have more than doubled. Next it will be the Federal Income Tax as the Federal government struggles to pay for these 'illegal wars'. (Some local judges want tax increases to improve the courthouse and give them more room.....now that says POWER over people.)
What is the standard for 'winning' in Afghanistan? You got to know when to 'fold' and know when to 'hold' (keep fighting).
$82,700,000,000,000.00 divided by 153,000,000 equals $540,000.00 that each working american owes on this debt.
This is why the Oil ****** want the dollar to be replaced. We are going to have hyperinflation. If you haven't experienced it...It works like this. They knock zero's off of the one hundred dollar bill until it becomes the penny with Benjamin Franklin on it.
Israel did it when I was living there in the late 70's through the 80's. They knocked off five zero's. A million dollars became ten dollars. They were begging to buy twenties with Israeli Lira....which then became the Sheckle....which then became the New Israeli sheckle.
Now Obama is a pascifist whimp, who won't, and can't fight, with his minnions of anti war mafia that he follows. He is a coward who never had enough balls to join the military let alone fight for anything. He was to busy shooting up...Tooting up....and getting stoned with all the other Liberal clowns at Harvard.
He needs to pull the troops out because he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper sack. He'd try his darndist to talk his way out of the sack.....but fight......haaaaa!
Get our military guys out......Obama can't stomach a fight anymore than any of the Democrats in their defeatest party. He has made defeating terrorism into hugging a terrorist for a day.
By the way.....both parties are full of a bunch of smucks who bankrupted the United States. Clinton never had a surplus.....look at the treasury department. They all lie to us to push ********* agendas to bankrupt us.
Where have all of you been....hiding under a couch?