AP/ February 17, 2013, 7:00 PM

Win an AR-15? Gun giveaways spark debate

In this Friday, Feb. 15, 2013, photo, Robert Sprague poses in the kitchen of his Wilmot, N.H. home. Sprague a marketing consultant wants to put an end to gun raffles.

In this Friday, Feb. 15, 2013, photo, Robert Sprague poses in the kitchen of his Wilmot, N.H. home. Sprague a marketing consultant wants to put an end to gun raffles. / AP Photo/Charles Krupa

CONCORD, New Hampshire Police chiefs in New Hampshire wanted more money for their youth training program. A youth hockey team in North Dakota needed more ice time.

Both saw giving away guns as the answer.

From car dealerships to political parties to hockey teams to yes, even police chiefs, gun giveaways are an attractive way to make money or draw in customers. But in the wake of the deadly shooting rampage in a Connecticut elementary school, such raffles are drawing criticism as the ease of obtaining firearms fuels a nationwide debate over gun control measures.

The New Hampshire Association of Chiefs of Police is raffling off a gun every day in May, including a Ruger AR-15-style rifle with a 30-round magazine similar to the one used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting that killed 20 children and six educators in December. The players in West Fargo's Youth Hockey Association will raffle off 200 guns and an all-terrain vehicle next month. Up for grabs are shotguns, handguns, hunting rifles and semi-automatic rifles.

Both raffles were planned long before the shooting in Newtown invigorated calls for increased gun control. That didn't stop critics from blasting the raffles as, at best, in poor taste and, at worst, criminal.

John Rosenthal, founder and director of the Massachusetts-based Stop Handgun Violence, called the chiefs' raffle "insane" and "criminally irresponsible."

"In 33 states - including Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont - the winner of this AR-15 can turn around the same day and sell it to anyone without an ID or background check," Rosenthal said. "They should cancel their raffle and give away a nice mountain bike or snowmobile."

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Jonathan Lowy, director of the legal action program at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, said he knows of no state in which the raffle would be illegal. But "having these gun giveaways and gun raffles can trivialize the seriousness of firearms," Lowy said.

In a letter posted on the chiefs association website, Salem Police Chief Paul Donovan extended his sympathies to the families of those killed in Newtown but stressed it and other tragic shootings "are contrary to lawful and responsible gun ownership."

Donovan, who did not respond to interview requests, wrote that the raffle's rules require that winners meet all applicable state and federal laws, including background checks. The goal of the raffle - to raise $30,000 to offset the cost of the weeklong police cadet training academy - has already been met. The 1,000 raffle tickets, at $30 apiece, sold out last month.

Three of the guns being raffled off are named on a list of weapons that would be prohibited under a proposed ban introduced by Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein in the wake of the Sandy Hook rampage. That proposal would also ban ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

While the Newtown shooting has intensified the criticism of the chiefs' raffle, other giveaways have had similarly inauspicious timing.

After a 2011 shooting rampage in Arizona wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed six others, the county Republican Party raffled off a Glock handgun to raise money for voter outreach. Its slogan was "Help Pima GOP get out the vote and maybe help yourself to a new Glock." The Republican Party's interim county chairman said at the time he didn't think there was anything inappropriate about the promotion.

Missouri state Rep. John McCaherty raised campaign funds last August by raffling off an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, a month after a similar gun was used in the Aurora, Colorado, movie theater shooting that killed 12 people and wounded 58. McCaherty didn't return calls seeking comment.

The owner of an Atlanta-area sporting goods store doesn't understand the outrage.


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RickB2400 says:
Are there any tickets left ?
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Rifle45 says:
My thoughts become my words, my words become my actions.
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usmc777 says:
Wonder if this NUT LOOKING guy KNOWS Howard Sprague..he loks like him! Do People like this OWN a Gun or Rifle? have they EVER been in the MILITARY?.usually these questions are NO, they just want a NAME..not careing who it hurts! We gunners come from ALL walks of life and we like todo one thing..Shoot Weapons..Target Range, at least 500 Yards hey Joe, know ANY Shotgun that will hit a Target THAT far? W are Peaceful, we LOVE our Weapons and just a SOME Prefer a VW ..others Prefer a Corvette we also have a PREF..from Guns that LOOK like Western to Weaons that LOOK like Military...as long as they are SEMI-ANTOMATIC..they are all the same! Let,s speak of two things the NRA and White House have NEVER stated, can anyone BUY a REAL Assult Weapon?..answer..NO..YOU must have an FFL..to BUY or Sell...THAT makes a BIG Diffrance..just TRY to get one, yo might as well jon the FBI becuse ...it,s THAT Tough and, with one, means the GOVT can ENTER YOUR HOME or Business...anytime they want! The EXT is THIS, Magazine Compasity..they want 10...so, like in Vietnam we TAPE two at the ends, ri through one and FLIP the other back in..so why not keep the 20...why do you buy 10 Hot Dogs in a PAK as most Familys only eat a few..the EXTRA means..you have some for ANOTHER DAY!!! YOU People better wake up, we HAVE terroists in the USA and I believe THEY are in these KILLINGS and Shootings..wanting YOU people to TAKE them away and allow THEM to wipe everyone else out..thats HOW they work! When WE fight to keep OUR RIHTS to GUNS, believe it or not, we are ALSO fighting to HELP you!!!
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Rifle45 replies:
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The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are often confused. According to Bruce H. Kobayashi and Joseph E. Olson, writing in the Stanford Law and Policy Review, "Prior to 1989, the term 'assault weapon' did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term [underline added for emphasis], developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of assault rifles."
http://asmdss.com/topic/830-a-letter-from-the-special-forces-community-concerning-the-second-amendment/
Rifle45 replies:
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The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are often confused. According to Bruce H. Kobayashi and Joseph E. Olson, writing in the Stanford Law and Policy Review, "Prior to 1989, the term 'assault weapon' did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term [underline added for emphasis], developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of assault rifles."

http://asmdss.com/topic/830-a-letter-from-the-special-forces-community-concerning-the-second-amendment/
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Rifle45 says:
WHAT!

.CON.RES.107 -- Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high... (Introduced in House - IH)
Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress's exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress's exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution
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Wingsfan1983 says:
Very poor idea where we are still polluted by the propaganda of the NRA.
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skeezix06 says:
Hypothetical question. What the police department will say if or when one of the winners of the raffles shoots a policeman with a gun they raffled off?
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skeezix06 replies:
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Answer: The concept of giving away guns based on luck is a really bad idea. They'd be better off raffling off a gift certificate to a home supply store or a motorcycle accessory or just about anything other than a gun.
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What if they were raffling off a car and the winner uses it to run over a cop when he's drunk and trying get away or uses it during an armed robbery and runs into a police car during the getaway and kills the officers inside?
I'm sure they are not going to give the gun to a criminal without a background check.
So much for your hypothetical dumb question.
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cntrygirl3 says:
As long as the winner or buyer gets a thorough background check before collecting.
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Bojax39 replies:
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You bet! A point which all the naysayers here seem to be ignoring....
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bignail says:
To all you people who think this gun raffles are morbid: (1)Quit living in your "people will be nice if I'm good" world. Stop it. It doesn't happen. You think it's self-righteous to get rid of guns for the sake of humanity. There are people who want to hurt other people for gain, for example the Mexican cartels. We all know how the Mexican gun ban works. (2) Don't trust in the authorities, most are good people, to save you. You don't have the time. (3) Mind your own business and let us law abiding people alone. Go crusade for some other of your self-righteous cause.
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bignail says: "Mind your own business and let us law abiding people alone. Go crusade for some other of your self-righteous cause."

You know how it goes, bignail. These people are tireless when it comes to inflicting themselves on the rest of us "for our own good". They'll never run out of causes.....

Each of these left circling morons sees himself as John Galt, though most of them come off more like Karl Marx. :-)
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Retired_in_Va says:
FACT: Guns do not kill people, people kill people!
FACT: A lot of parents do not teach their kids right from wrong.
FACT: They do not teach them their actions have consequences.

I grew up watching westerns movies and gangster movies and I did not go out and kill people.

If it wasn't a gun, a Molotov cocktail could do the same, so are we going to ban gasoline, rags and a glass bottle?

The way our government works, take away one gun, they will not be satisfied until they do more and more. I like to shoot guns, I would like to have an AR-15, just can not justify the cost, but believe me, if someone breaks into my house, they WILL get shot.

Like the old saying goes, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."
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myopinionpal replies:
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So true I have never seen a gun on trial for murder only the gun user.
Wingsfan1983 replies:
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FACT: Guns allow people to Kill people
FACT: AR-15s allow people to Kill more people that knives
FACT: RETIRED takes a small argument that has been disproven by the Australian experiment to eliminate all semi-automatic weapons.

Get with the new evidence and understand your argument is not only outdated but wrong.
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Rick03466 says:
First CBS how about calling for an Investigation as to what happened in NewTown because here in New England, In Law Enforcement Circles it is a WIDELY held belief that the Rifle was not USED. Second I can't help wonder if, Mr.Obama knows how many of the raffle tickets he sells every time he opens his mouth on the topic of Firearms. It is more that a bit Ironic that the ONLY business that Mr. Obama has Successfully Stimulated is the Firearms industry!
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Ulgnud replies:
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True enough. Obama is the best gun salesman the industry ever had. Didn't cost them a dime either.
democracy8 replies:
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Rick03466: "...here in New England, In Law Enforcement Circles it is a WIDELY held belief that the Rifle was not USED"

Apparently, you missed this.

http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4222299.php#ixzz2J7lZ49oq
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