CBS/AP/ February 8, 2013, 11:26 AM

Boy Scouts face pressure before vote on no-gays policy

Clockwise from left, Boy Scouts Eric Kusterer, Jacob Sorah, James Sorah, Micah Brownlee and Cub Scout John Sorah hold signs at the â??Save Our Scoutsâ?? Prayer Vigil and Rally in front of the Boy Scouts of America National Headquarters in Irving, Texas, February 6, 2013.

Clockwise from left, Boy Scouts Eric Kusterer, Jacob Sorah, James Sorah, Micah Brownlee and Cub Scout John Sorah hold signs at the â??Save Our Scoutsâ?? Prayer Vigil and Rally in front of the Boy Scouts of America National Headquarters in Irving, Texas, February 6, 2013. / AP Photo/Richard Rodriguez

It promises to be a campaign as passionate and dramatic as any big election. For the next 14 weeks, the Boy Scouts of America will be the focus of prayers, petitions and pressure tactics aimed at swaying a vote on whether to ease its ban on gays as Scouts or adult leaders.

The decision will be made the week of May 20 by the roughly 1,400 voting members of the BSA's National Council. The policy was supposed to be settled Wednesday by the Scouts' 70-member national executive board, but the board concluded the issue was so complex that the organization needed more time to study it.

At stake is a proposal to ease the ban by allowing sponsors of local Scout units to decide for themselves whether to admit gays. Gay-rights groups say the plan is inadequate, and that no units should be allowed to discriminate. Some conservative religious leaders and advocacy groups want the ban to stay in place nationwide.

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Both sides are girding for intensive lobbying between now and late May, hoping to influence the outcome.

"Keep the pressure on," was the message Thursday from the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation to its supporters.

GLAAD, which has been active in several recent campaigns opposing the ban, provided information on how to telephone or email BSA headquarters and offered suggestions for how to advocate using Twitter and Facebook.

"Take action!" GLAAD exhorted. "Send a message to the Boy Scouts that we won't rest until they end the ban."

The Human Rights Campaign, a major gay-rights group, said it will caution the BSA's corporate donors that they would lose points in an annual "equality index" if they continued to support the Scouts as long as any units were allowed to exclude gays.

Similar campaigns were being waged by conservative groups seeking to keep the ban in place.

"This is far from over," wrote Tony Perkins of the Family Research Center in an online message. The center "will continue in our efforts to help the BSA stand strong against the corporate executives and activists who care more about conformity than character."

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Perkins said the efforts would include outreach to Scouting parents, liaisons with religious denominations that sponsor Scout units and an extension of an ongoing campaign to flood BSA offices with calls and emails.

Several other conservative groups have joined in an online campaign calling for the resignation of BSA executive board member Randall Stephenson, the CEO of AT&T, who said last year he would try to move the Scouts away from the ban on gays.

"It seems Stephenson's mission is to destroy the Boy Scouts of America from within," said the American Family Association. "As an executive board member, he is using his corporate influence to bully the BSA into gay assimilation."

Under the executive board's timetable, Stephenson is set to become its chairman in 2014. An AT&T spokesman, Mark Siegel, said neither Stephenson nor the company had any public comment about the BSA membership debate.

While the executive board includes several high-powered business executives and civic leaders, the national council is more reflective of Scouting's nationwide grassroots. Members include regional presidents and representatives of the Scouts' 290 local councils.

Given the impassioned views on two sides of the debate, the BSA risks alienating large segments of the national Scouting community no matter what the decision is in May.

Ian Mitroff, who runs a crisis-management consulting firm and is an adjunct professor at the University of California-Berkeley, said he would advise the BSA to move toward an easing of the ban.

"More and more in our society, people are saying, `We're not going to put up with inequality of any kind,"' he said.

But he acknowledged the risk of a backlash from those who oppose any change. "You're going to have a PR problem, no matter what," Mitroff said.

About 70 percent of all Scout units are sponsored by religious denominations, including many by conservative faiths that have supported the ban, including the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormon church, and the Southern Baptist Convention.

Frank Page, president of the SBC's Executive Committee, was relieved that the BSA had delayed a decision.

"At least this gives all segments of the Scouting family an opportunity to express their views," he told Baptist Press, the SBC's official news agency.

The Mormons are the largest sponsor of Scout units, with more than 420,000 boys in nearly 38,000 units, according to BSA figures. While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has supported the ban on gays, it has made no official statement about the proposal that would give troop sponsors leeway to set their own policy.

"We caution others not to speculate about our position," Mormon church spokesman Michael Purdy said. "Neither has the church launched any campaign either to affect or prevent a policy change."

On the liberal side of the religious spectrum, a leader of the Reform branch of American Judaism released the text of a letter to BSA President Wayne Parry, urging the ban on gays to be lifted nationwide. Reform synagogues have been discouraged from sponsoring units since 2001 because of the ban.

"We look forward to the day we can encourage our congregations to return to their historical role in hosting BSA troops," wrote Rabbi David Saperstein, director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism. "Indeed, we hope that day may be soon."

In Houston, civil rights lawyer and scoutmaster Bill Helfand worries that the eventual outcome might fracture the Scouting movement.

"Whatever decision is made, there will be people absolutely certain it is wrong," he said. "I hope Scouting doesn't suffer for whatever the decision is, because it is the boys who will suffer."

Helfand says his Troop 55, one of the country's largest with 225 Boy Scouts, will abide by whatever rules the BSA leadership sets, but he hopes the end result is a uniform policy for all Scout units.

"I don't think it's productive for Scouting's goals to have different rules for different troops," he said.

While some gay-rights activists criticized the BSA for delaying a decision, Richard Socarides, a former Clinton White House adviser on gay issues, expressed empathy.

"It's important for gay groups to keep the pressure up ... but the Boy Scouts may have done the right thing for now," he said. "If they need more time to get people on board with the new policy, I'm fine with that. Getting it right is more important than getting it fast."

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In a Sunday interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, President Obama said the Scouts should open their organization to openly gay members.

"My attitude is that gays and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does, in every institution and walk of life," Mr. Obama said.

"The Scouts are a great institution that are promoting young people and exposing them to opportunities and leadership that will serve people for the rest of their lives," Mr. Obama continued, "And I think nobody should be barred from that."

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golding4 says:
No Greennnnn-2009.....you are not straight and you even use OMG is ways without God being in Praise...making you use God's name in vain..you will have your time for judgement and you will stand before Almighty God and give an account of yourself to The Only True God who says homosexuality is an abomination too Him
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hyrule_savior says:
I dont normally comment on this type of article, but this one hits close to home as I am a Scoutmaster of an LDS Troop. I believe the teachings of my church and personally if someone chooses to be gay PRIVATELY then that is their choice and I have no right to tell them otherwise. But if the boys of my troop had an openly gay Assistant Scoutmaster and saw him in intimate acts (hugging, kissing, holding hands) with his partner prior to leaving on a weekend or week-long camping trip I can say they would be disturbed. And that is the matter at heart here. The boys. I have no doubt that there may be gay men and boys in the Boy Scouts already but I do believe that everyone must live with the consequences of their choices. In the past women and blacks were discriminated and change came. But there is nothing they could do about being women or being black. I do believe that someone chooses to be gay. Some people disagree and, well, we just disagree on that point. But choices have consequences and not being a part of the Scouting program is a consequence of choosing to be openly gay. I have no comment on the "Gay rights movement Agenda" because I stay away from politics and and the like. I also DO NOT speak for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and this is in no form a statement from said organization.
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Boy_Scout_for_life replies:
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Amen! I don't care if you are discretely gay, but not open gays in Scouting. It would be VERY inappropriate.
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norcal441 says:
NOTICE:

All those who don't want gay men taking young boy scouts out into the woods for camping, need to be more vocal than those who do want gay men to be able to take young boy scouts out into the woods for days.

Make sure your heard!!!!!!
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norcal441 says:
Sarcasm

We have the boy scouts and the girl scouts and we may soon have a third organization, the gay scouts. They would have to design their own uniform.

And if the sexual consideration means nothing, Then I also think they should stop the prejudice and allow heterosexual males into girl's locker rooms.

What next?
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SadieMae68 says:
The North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) was founded in December 1978 and is an activist homosexual and pedophilia coalition group. Their primary aim is stated to be the overturn of statutory rape laws and reduction of "age of consent" laws that require a child be of a certain age (which varies by state) before they can agree to sexual intercourse.

The North American Man/Boy Love Association was defended by the ACLU in a $200 million civil lawsuit. NAMBLA was sued by the parents of a 10 year old murder victim; the parents claimed the killers were motivated by material accessible on the NAMBLA website.

CPUSA member Harry Hay, who is widely accredited as one of the founders of the gay rights activist movement in the United States, was a speaker at NAMBLA conferences. Harry Hay was an atheist. Poet Allen Ginsberg was another famous member of NAMBLA.

The International Gay & Lesbian Archives, the world's largest research collection on gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered activism, has recognized several NAMBLA members for their contributions to the gay rights movement.

While the organization has sent donation checks to several political figures, no politician has yet accepted the money.
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SadieMae68 replies:
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People against NAMBLA are just being bigots.
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LosAngelesCA says:
I don't understand why gay people insist on telling everyone they are gay. The purpose of scouting is scouting, not to discuss homosexuality. It seems to me that the Board wants to keep this focus. I am personally sick and tired of hearing about gay issues each and every day.

I am concerned with the deficit, social security, medicare and other issues that affect ALL Americans.

Why does the media keep our attention focused on gay issues?
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cleric77 replies:
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Because the vast majority of our secular media is either pro-homosexual or part of an amoral liberal movement within our society.
ridiculousness73 replies:
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Same old story, people tired of hearing about other peoples rights. Hmmm, imagine that all these years later. Same people said that about African American rights, Indian rights, women's rights, etc. Until we learn to accept people for who they are this world will never be any better off.
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Little_Old_Lady says:
It appears the boys in the photo do not care to have any sick puppies amoung their ranks. It is about them, isn't it?






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EvolvedLiberal replies:
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(greennnnnn-2009 replies: You don't think their parents put them up to this?) If most of them are too little to even know what they're talking about, Isn't it a parents duty to protect them from the dangerous evil sick things in this world? The Homosexuals don't seem to have any problem trying to influence their innocent minds.
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cleric77 says:
About 70 percent of all Scout units are sponsored by religious denominations, including many by conservative faiths that have supported the ban, including the Roman Catholic Church, the Mormon church, and the Southern Baptist Convention and the Lutherans of the Missouri Synod.
Also, all Bible-based denominations should make it very clear that if the national BSA allows openly and actively practicing homosexuals to be members of the BSA, they will be forced to resign their membership within the national BSA immediately.
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ScouterMom says:
For those who are truly struggling to be compassionate and fair, it's helpful to realize that the tears and emotional appeals of the homosexual agenda are all part of a focused, intentional marketing campaign designed to manipulate the public. "Gay rights" are not about equality. The homosexual agenda is about imposing a tolerance of sexual licentiousness on the American psyche and our culture. Go to any "gay pride" parade and just watch silently. It won't be about fairness and compassion. It will be about championing sexual gratification for its own sake.

This movement of manipulating the public sunk its root into American culture in the early 90's. The "bible" for the movement is called _After the Ball: How America Will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's_ by Kirk and Madsen. They're both marketing experts, by the way. The book is all about using AIDS and its tragic and ravaging effects to manipulate the emotions of Americans to see homosexuals as noble heroes. (The book is available on Amazon.)

Google "Moving Marriage Forward Building Majority Support for Marriage" and readers will find yet another marketing document from Freedom to Marry instructing homosexual agenda proponents on how to manipulate the emotions, compassion and good intentions of Americans.

It's one thing to tolerate deviant behavior and it's another thing to give it legal protection. Legal protected status necessarily excludes any ideology that conflicts with or opposes it. Therefore, giving homosexuality a protected status in American society makes /real/ marriage, a man and a woman bound together for life while being open to children, disenfranchised and without any legal protections. In essence, the family no longer exists in American culture.

This business with the Boy Scouts it just one cog in the wheel of destruction.
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Rafterman11 replies:
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The only "agenda' of gay people is to have pathetic losers like you and Tony Perkins stop telling people how to live their private lives.
EvolvedLiberal replies:
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SouterMom, Thank you for putting into words the very thing we see happening before our eyes. America has a REAL problem.
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cleric77 says:
Also, the homosexual agenda is also to promote the perverted sexual behavior especially among our health male teenagers...to continue to growth of the homosexual community within our nation. Mature adult or older homosexual males achievely recruit younger healthy males seeking sexual pleasures due to their strong sex drive/urge.
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