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Alex Sundby /

CBS News/ December 4, 2012, 3:08 PM

"Homeless man" not homeless -- lives in rent-free apartment

New York City Police Officer Larry DePrimo presents boots to a barefoot man later identified as Jeffrey Hillman in New York's Times Square Nov. 14, 2012.

New York City Police Officer Larry DePrimo presents boots to a barefoot man later identified as Jeffrey Hillman in New York's Times Square Nov. 14, 2012. / AP Photo/Jennifer Foster

The barefoot homeless man who was photographed being given a pair of winter boots by a New York City police officer on a cold November night has actually been living rent-free in an apartment since late last year, the city said Tuesday.

Homeless Services Commissioner Seth Diamond had no doubt that the man captured in a tourist's picture receiving the boots from NYPD Officer Larry DePrimo was the same Jeffrey Hillman who had been on the city agency's radar for a while.

"We're sure because we've had such a sustained engagement with him for so many years," Diamond said.

That engagement started in the summer of 2009, when Hillman was first moved off the street and offered one of 900 beds that provide more specialized services than the agency's more traditional shelters, Diamond said.

"We keep offering, continuing to offer him services," Diamond said of Hillman. "Unfortunately we've had some setbacks along the way."

Hillman's federal benefits cover the cost of the apartment, where he's been living since late 2011, Diamond said. It's located in the Bronx, just a few miles north of the Times Square sidewalk where DePrimo found Hillman Nov. 14 without any shoes or socks and then rushed to buy him the boots at a nearby store.

In an interview with CBS News senior correspondent John Miller, DePrimo said seeing Hillman made him think of his grandfather's advice to do things "100 percent or don't do it at all."

"You could just see the blisters," DePrimo told Miller about Hillman. "You know, he was just walking on the palms of his feet there. And -- it was -- it upset me. And, so, I went up to him and I said, I was like, 'Buddy,' I was like, 'where's your -- where's your socks, where's your shoes?' He was like, 'It's OK, officer, I never had a pair of shoes.'"

Hillman receives some benefits because he served in the military, Diamond said. He's enrolled in a veteran-focused part of the housing voucher program known as Section 8 that's run by the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Hillman also receives benefits from the federal Department of Veterans Affairs, Diamond said, noting the apartment comes with case management services, which Hillman doesn't use.

A Homeless Services official said on background that Hillman is also a recipient of disability benefits through Social Security.

"The apartment is paid for," said Diamond. "What he needs is a more productive way to spend his life, and that's what we're trying to do with him."

Diamond wasn't familiar with the specifics of Hillman's apartment, but he guessed it was a studio or a one-bedroom.

"It's I'm sure a modest apartment, but it's a private apartment, and it's similar to what thousands of New Yorkers live in, and in many ways Mr. Hillman is far better off" because it's subsidized, Diamond said.

Those subsidies come with a lifetime guarantee, the commissioner said, with the goal of providing a foundation for recipients like Hillman to improve their lives and not have to resort to panhandling.

"He doesn't have to panhandle for fear of the subsidy ending at the end of the month or next year," Diamond said.

Still, keeping Hillman from living on the streets has proven to be difficult, even after his sudden exposure in the national spotlight. During the weekend, The New York Times found him on the Upper West Side, without the boots DePrimo gave him.

"Those shoes are hidden. They are worth a lot of money," Hillman told the newspaper. "I could lose my life."

Diamond said he hoped that Hillman's story wouldn't discourage people from helping panhandlers, noting that people in need require a range of services, not just housing.

"They might have housing," said Diamond, "but that's not the end of story."

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  • Alex Sundby

    Alex Sundby is a senior news editor for CBSNews.com

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speddy3 says:
It's frustrating when a journalist gets it wrong. Sec. 8 is not rent-free by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, it is less. But that is because it is based on your income and you need not be on SSA and/or SSI to qualify...only low-income.
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Serve-and-Protect says:
Let's not sway from the act of the officer on this, regardless of who he encountered. It would figure that someone would research this and find information that would take away from the meaning of what happened. This story is about the fine Officer and HIS act of kindness, not the recipient and his life story. At this time of the year, why would someone want to dampen the officer's efforts? Officer DePrimo did what many people only think about doing. Let the light shine where it belongs, in the heart of Officer DePrimo and the New York Police Department.
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pericleseMMXX says:
The kind-hearted police officer was duped. He didn't know the details, nor did he care at the moment. He did what he felt was right, even though the shoeless man obviously preferred to remain barefoot rather than wear his new $100 boots. We had a guy that was a permanent fixture in our city for countless years. He wore ragged clothing, mumbled to himself and made a living selling newspapers. and became an icon of sorts. A local artist even painted his portrait. When he passed, they discovered $50,000 in cash in his ramshackle room....go figure.
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rwsmith29456 says:
People talk like this was a conspiracy by the government to lie to us.
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azshoes says:
Why is it that in America, a guy who works the system for Social Security and Vet benefits is considered a lowlife slacker, and a different guy that works the system to reap thousands upon thousands in tax savings, govt subsidies, and/or govt contracts is considered a successful businessman?
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azshoes replies:
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You didn't answer the question.
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AttyFAM says:
I read the comments here, and it appears to me that a little less than half of them - let's say, 47%, maybe even the same 47% that voted for Romney - are heartless, mean and downright ruthless. And I would also bet that this 47% will be the first to claim they are Christians. But they have no idea what the way of Christ involves. It involves sacrifice. How many of this 47% are willing to give away all their belongings and take that path?

The police officer who bought the boots for this poor man who seems to have some psychological problems was the good man, the honorable man, because he did something for another without expecting any return for it. The 47% of you who are mean-spirited, you should have been inspired by this story to go out and do some good deed. Instead, you harp on the treachery (as you see it) of the poor, their deceitfulness in trying to get a rich person to part with a single dollar. You generalize from one or two not so nice poor people to all of the poor. And why should they be nice to you? Have you treated them with kindness? No, you have exercised your self-righteousness to convince yourself that you are better than them and that since you are better than them, they do not deserve your kindness. You are, in fact, more wretched than they are. Some of them may be mentally ill. But your spirit is polluted by your self-righteousness and your contempt for other human beings. You have deceived yourself into thinking that your money means you are good, when it is actually making you evil.
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Ulgnud says:
I appreciate the kindness of the officer who went out of his way to help. Too bad he didn't know that this guy had a home paid for out of handouts, and was not a truly needy homeless person.
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bckrd1 says:
To those who are saying he was panhandling, that has not been mentioned. He did not ask for anything and the officer stated that the gentleman in question, was one of the nicest and most polite people he ever met so stop criticizing. Walk in someone else's shoes and then you can talk. I live by the saying "there but for the grace of God go I'. I thank him every day I can take a hot shower, eat food at will, sleep in a clean dry bed every night. Yes I go to work every day to make sure I can do those things but things and life happen. And it isn't always good. All of our lives can change in a heartbeat. Don't judge. Help when you can. I don't give to everyone who holds their hand out but I do give when it seems the right thing to do. I have also received. Be generous if you can and be grateful if you have been blessed.
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homelessmyass says:
This is a Great example of, why I'll never give a red cent to one of these worthless POS. I still give to people I know and who deserve help. But as for as these beggers and parasites, they can all die tonite and good riddance...No more hand-outs to obama's crowd...
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homelessmyass - The question is why some people live homeless lives. Perhaps some people suffer from a mental illness which prevents them from holding jobs or having a family life. Perhaps some people are incurable drug addicts or alcoholics. Perhaps some people are simply the victims of bad breaks in life such as the loss of a loved one, poor investments, bad decisions, etc. There are probably many reasons why people end up homeless. Just like teachers are expected never to give-up on some students, we should be looking for ways to help other people who are in need. And yes, we won't be successful with everyone.
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LarryMoniz says:
Ahh, panhandlers. That cop is probably the butt of jokes by all his fellow officers. I feel sorry for him. I worked in NYC for 15 years and either encountered or heard of numerous phony panhandlers. One of the best was a nun who was in or around Penn Station every day soliciting donations for "charity." The curious part of it was her old-school nun's attire was unlike anything I ever saw as child growing up catholic. Nor did I see the crucifix and beads most nuns always wore. I finally realized she was a fake when I started taking the same Jersey shore line train she was on every day. She apparently lived somewhere in a middle class suburb. Having lived on the shore, and been a journalist there, I know of NO nunneries in that area, especially those that solicit donations from passersby on streets.
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