AP/ November 18, 2012, 12:02 AM

Officials: Vets' float crossed track after signals

Accident debris can be seen next to the semi-trailer truck carrying veterans in a parade that was struck by a train crossing in Midland Texas Thursday evening Nov. 15, 2012 during the annual Hunt for Hero's parade.

Accident debris can be seen next to the semi-trailer truck carrying veterans in a parade that was struck by a train crossing in Midland Texas Thursday evening Nov. 15, 2012 during the annual Hunt for Hero's parade. / AP Photo/Reporter-Telegram, Tim Fischer

Updated Nov. 18, 2012, 12:02 AM ET

MIDLAND, Texas A parade float filled with wounded veterans that was struck by a freight train had crossed onto the railroad tracks after warning signals were going off, investigators said Saturday.

Four veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan were killed and 16 more people were injured when the train crashed into the flatbed truck in West Texas.

It was the second of two floats carrying veterans in Thursday's parade in Midland. The first was exiting the tracks when the warning bells and signals were activated, 20 seconds before the accident, according to the National Transportation Safety Board. The second float didn't enter the tracks until several seconds after the warning system went off, the NTSB said. By that time, the guardrail was lowering.

"Once the crossing becomes active, people should stop," lead investigator Robert Accetta with the NTSB said at a news conference Saturday afternoon.

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West Texas veterans parade crash

The timeline was pieced together by combining information from a video camera mounted on the front of the train, another one on a sheriff's car and a data recorder that acts like an airplane's black box, activating when the train blared the horn, NTSB member Mark Rosekind said.

Nine seconds before the crash, the train sounded its horn, a blaring that lasted four seconds, according to Rosekind. The guardrail hit the truck, then the engineer pulled the emergency brake, trying to bring the train that was traveling at 62 mph to a screeching halt.

People on the first float and dozens of others who had come out to greet the veterans shrieked and watched in shock, as some aboard the truck tried to jump off, witnesses said. The veterans' military instincts kicked in as they treated the wounded.

The NTSB has also interviewed the engineer and conductor, and established the train's air brakes were working, Rosekind said. No mechanical problems were found with the cars. A review of the train's maintenance history found no defects, he added. The tracks also had no problems.

Investigators will try to establish on Monday what the engine could have seen as it approached the truck, Rosekind said.

Part of the investigation includes whether the parade group, Show of Support/Hunt for Heroes, had the proper permit. The parade has been an annual event in Midland for nine years.

"It has a long history, and I don't know what the original arrangements were," City Manager Courtney Sharp said. "But for the most part we require permits."

Railroads are a vital part of Midland, a town that sits in the heart of Texas' oil rich Permian basin. It's listed as having nearly 114,000 residents, but residents and officials believe the population has risen significantly with the growth of the oil industry.

Three or four railroad tracks lie within city limits, and the site of the accident is just about 10 minutes from downtown, said Midland spokesman Ryan Stout.

That's considered when the city grants permits for parades and other events, Sharp said.

"We take all steps into consideration when we permit," he said. "I hate to go down that track until all of the investigation is over, but yes we do take that stuff into account."

About 300 people attended a vigil Saturday evening in downtown Midland. They lit white candles and prayed for the victims' families and the community as a whole. The town square was lined with American flags.

Ministers prayed for residents in the town to have strength in wake of the tragedy.

"I promise you the next few days will be tough but when we get to the other side, it will be better," Mayor Wes Parry told the crowd.

"The community is grieving. We are grieving and in pain," Sharp said.

Midland resident Gery Cain said he attended the vigil to "participate in the healing that this will bring to the community."

The veterans were on their way to a banquet in their honor and were being cheered by a flag-waving crowd. It was supposed to be the start of a three-day weekend of banquets, deer hunting and shopping in appreciation of the veterans' sacrifice.

Killed were Marine Chief Warrant Officer 3 Gary Stouffer, 37; Army Sgt. Maj. Lawrence Boivin, 47; Army Sgt. Joshua Michael, 34; and Army Sgt. Maj. William Lubbers, 43.

Two of the injured remained in a Midland hospital Saturday night, one in critical condition and another in stable condition. None of the injuries are life-threatening, said hospital spokeswoman Marcy Madrid.

A third person was moved to another hospital, Midland city officials said late Saturday, but they did not know the hospital name or the person's condition. A fourth person, who was transferred to a Lubbock hospital shortly after the accident, had been in serious condition but it was unclear Saturday night if that remained the case.

Union Pacific spokeswoman Raquel Espinoza said the speed limit in that area was raised from 40 mph to 70 mph in 2006.

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VKotto says:
62 mph seems a bit too fast for a train passing through a town. No wonder the train hit only 20 seconds after the signals started. If the railroad insists on barreling its trains through populated areas that freaking fast, they should at least set the warning trip mechanism farther away from the crossing so that the warning sounds much earlier.

I put the blame squarely on the RR for operating too fast with an improperly designed crossing warning system.
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says:
Not to mention the danger of the electronic force field all trains cause that can and usually will shut down the engine of a car without warning.

That's strange. In 35 years of driving cars and trucks in close proximity to trains, I have never once had my engine quit. I must be protected somehow.
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DaylightRed says:
Three pages of comments and not ONE...ONE...word about what affect this disastrous event must have on the engineer and conductor of the train, who were clearly operating according to railroad rules, whose railroad was clearly operating correctly, and yet suddenly find themselves confronting the imminent death a number of people before their very eyes, and being helpless to do anything about it.
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hghieagle says:
Have they not heard of lowering-gates yet in Texass...?
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Walter L. Johnson replies:
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State laws and federal railroad laws require that upon activation of the signal every vehicle must stop, since the train has the right of way. Wood arms are added as a barrier only at busy intersections or when the local government pays for the extra cost as a road improvement. Obviously if the barrier arm(s) comes down it has the same force of law as the flashing train signal, but the flashing lights are first before the barrier arm(s) come down. You must be off the tracks before the gate comes down, but the train will come and be unable to stop in either case. It take at least a mile for a typical train to stop.

I know when we lived in Colorado passenger carriers like buses and car pools were always required to stop before crossing rail road tracks, and that applied whether or not the vehicle traffic was controlled by a signal. It is those rules intended to save lives that should have been followed, and because they were not followed the truck driver will almost certainly face felony charges such as manslaughter and reckless endangeement, unless Monday they find the driver of the truck and the train operator.

The two messages (flashing lights and barrier) to stop and wait for a train to pass should be interpretated as yelling: STOP! STOP! The delay between the start of flashing lights (interpretated as just STOP!) is give drivers already on the tracks an opportunity to finish getting off the tracks. They DO NOT allow drivers clear of the tracks the permission to enter the railroad's right of way.
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cpointes says:
I live in Reno , Nv. Here The buses that transport people around stop at all train tracks before crossing. They even stop at train tracks that are no longer in use. I think big rigs have the same rule here at least. Not knowing what exactly happened, I would have to look hard at the driver of the big rig. It sounds as though he was not paying attention. Sorry, but thats the way it seems...
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sefanzed says:
So... Who was driving? What's that guy have to say (I'm assuming he lived since it was the bed of the truck that was struck). Why haven't we heard from the guy responsible for this useless and senseless tragedy?
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Walter L. Johnson replies:
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The driver of the truck will definitely get his day in court to defend himself or herself, but he defense is futile and I am sure the truck driver regrets what happened. Very likely the truck driver is already in jail or will be Monday because unless the parade in front of him walked backwards to block his way unexpectantly, the driver has no defense.

REMEMBER that all Highway Vehicles wind up losing when competing with trains, which have right of way granted by law.
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fwupow says:
I think it's rather common to think that you have all-encompassing 'right-of-way' when you're in a parade. The result of obtaining a permit should have included route planning, timing and/or shutting down of any possible railroad interference, especially since flashing lights and bell sounds are likely to just blend in with the parade ruckus.
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Walter L. Johnson replies:
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You make a good point about parade noise, but it is stupid to have a parade cross an active railroad track, unless such as with light rail the local area government can close a rail line temporarily during a parade. All local governments can do though with railroad traffic is fine the train operator for speeding or blocking an intersection for more than something like 10 minutes.
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FactFeed says:
Rather than praying for 'strength' - maybe they should be praying for 'intelligence' or perhaps simple 'common sense.' How could they possibly plan for a parade on a parade route across railroad tracks - WITHOUT - First knowing (or finding out) when the trains would be transiting that parade route? It defies comprehension! BUT it definitely fits the image most have of Texas and Texans - "a bunch of bang-bange shoot-em-up anti-education yahoos who love their guns and despise "common sense."
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gordon1915 replies:
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Why not wait until the train passed and then move over the crossing. Almost murder in my opinion. Stupid.
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bpalme says:
Sheesh! It's Timbuktu, the name of a Mali town in west Africa, which has come to mean someplace far away that is almost unreachable.
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Walter L. Johnson replies:
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That is probably a step too far if you mean to compare remote places in Africa with Midland, Texas.
ttipbc replies:
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WALTER L JOHNSON - commentator BPALME was replying to a posting from user MISSOURI12, but he didn't post as a reply under MISSOURI12's original comment. So now his comment sits out here by itself & makes no sense whatsoever. BPALME, if you want to reply to a comment, click on "reply" under that comment.
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eroteme2 says:
Bring in the laws suits, it's jackpot time.
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Walter L. Johnson replies:
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Very few people would trade a living relative for money so the real purpose of lawsuits over wrongful death in most cases is to discourage the wrongful behavior that resulted in death.
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