CBS/AP/ November 15, 2012, 8:11 AM

Marijuana initiatives prompt Colorado, Washington to focus on keeping stoned drivers off road

DENVER It's settled. Pot, at least certain amounts of it, will soon be legal under state laws in Washington and Colorado. Now, officials in both states are trying to figure out how to keep stoned drivers off the road.

Colorado's measure doesn't make any changes to the state's driving-under-the-influence laws, leaving lawmakers and police to worry about its effect on road safety.

"We're going to have more impaired drivers," warned John Jackson, police chief in the Denver suburb of Greenwood Village.

Washington's law does change DUI provisions by setting a new blood-test limit for marijuana — a limit police are training to enforce, and which some lawyers are already gearing up to challenge.

"We've had decades of studies and experience with alcohol," said Washington State Patrol spokesman Dan Coon. "Marijuana is new, so it's going to take some time to figure out how the courts and prosecutors are going to handle it. But the key is impairment: We will arrest drivers who drive impaired, whether it be drugs or alcohol."

It's all part of the new reality the two states face. The Seattle Police Department, for example, has been highlighting a guide for using pot in the city, CBS Seattle affiliate KIRO-TV reports. Starting Dec. 6, adults over the age of 21 can legally possess up to an ounce or less of marijuana for personal use.

Drugged driving is illegal, and nothing in the measures that Washington and Colorado voters passed this month to tax and regulate the sale of pot for recreational use by adults over 21 changes that. But law enforcement officials wonder about whether the ability to buy or possess marijuana legally will bring about an increase of marijuana users on the roads.

Statistics gathered for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration showed that in 2009, a third of fatally injured drivers with known drug test results were positive for drugs other than alcohol. Among randomly stopped weekend nighttime drivers in 2007, more than 16 percent were positive for drugs.

Marijuana can cause dizziness and slowed reaction time, and drivers are more likely to drift and swerve while they're high.

Marijuana legalization activists agree people shouldn't smoke and drive. But setting a standard comparable to blood-alcohol limits has sparked intense disagreement, said Betty Aldworth, outreach director for Colorado's Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol.

Most convictions for drugged driving currently are based on police observations, followed later by a blood test.

"There is not yet a consensus about the standard rate for THC impairment," Aldworth said, referring to the psychoactive chemical in marijuana.

Unlike portable breath tests for alcohol, there's no easily available way to determine whether someone is impaired from recent pot use.

There are different types of tests for marijuana. Many workplaces test for an inactive THC metabolite that can be stored in body fat and remain detectable weeks after use. But tests for current impairment measure for active THC in the blood, and those levels typically drop within hours.

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, peak THC concentrations are reached during the act of smoking, and within three hours, they generally fall to less than 5 nanograms per milliliter of blood — the same standard in Washington's law, one supporters describe as roughly equivalent to the .08 limit for alcohol.

Two other states — Ohio and the medical marijuana state of Nevada — have a limit of 2 nanograms of THC per milliliter. Pennsylvania's health department has a 5-nanogram guideline that can be introduced in driving violation cases, and a dozen states, including Illinois, Arizona, and Rhode Island, have zero-tolerance policies.

In Washington, police still have to observe signs of impaired driving before pulling someone over, Coon said. The blood would be drawn by a medical professional, and tests above 5 nanograms would automatically subject the driver to a DUI conviction.

Supporters of Washington's measure said they included the standard to allay fears that legalization could prompt a drugged-driving epidemic, but critics call it arbitrarily strict. They insist that medical patients who regularly use cannabis would likely fail even if they weren't impaired.

They also worry about the law's zero-tolerance policy for those under 21. College students who wind up convicted even if they weren't impaired could lose college loans, they argue.

Jon Fox, a Seattle-area DUI attorney, said he's interested in challenging Washington's new standard as unconstitutional. Under due process principles, he said, people are entitled to know what activity is prohibited. If scientists can't tell someone how much marijuana it will take for him or her to test over the threshold, how is the average pot user supposed to know?

By contrast, he noted, the science on alcohol is well established. Some states publish charts estimating how many drinks it will take a person of a certain weight over a certain time to reach .08.

But such a challenge to Nevada's marijuana DUI limit failed in 2002, when the state Supreme Court ruled that the Legislature has broad authority to set driving standards. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to review that case, said Las Vegas DUI attorney Michael Becker.

"Marijuana affects everyone differently," Becker said. "The prevailing opinion of forensic toxicologists is that a 2-nanograms standard, such as exists in Nevada, absolutely results in convictions where individuals are not actually under the influence. But the 5-nanograms standard more closely approaches the mean threshold of prevailing opinion."

Colorado's legalization measure didn't set a driving standard — an intentional omission by the activists who wrote it because the issue has proven divisive. Lawmakers in Colorado, which has an established medical marijuana industry, have tried but failed three times to set a THC driving limit.

Drugged driving cases in Colorado were up even before the legalization vote. In 2009, the state toxicology lab obtained 791 THC-positive samples from suspected impaired drivers. Last year, it had 2,030 THC-positive samples.

Colorado lawmakers are preparing to take up driving standards yet again when they convene next year.

"I believe a 5-nanogram limit will save lives," said Colorado Republican state Sen. Steve King, sponsor of previous driving-high bills.

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resort38 says:
generally the amount of weed you smoke has nothing to do with how stoned you get, it has to do with the quality of the weed. You can smoke certain kinds of weed and never really get stoned but you take one toke of certain kinds of weed and really dumb stoned for hours.
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deerawr says:
Marijuana has always been and always will be here. People have driven under the influence I'm sure just as much as alcohol. Its not a new thing, the government thinks its going to be terrible but really... Come on now, hasn't alcohol killed more people. Marijuana may not be completely safe but it sure IS the lesser of two evils. This is my rant. :)
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quiditch69 says:
The only time I ever drove under the influence of marijuana, I drove 13 miles and it took me 3 hours, If I had been drinking I could have made it in 10 minutes
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freethoughtnow replies:
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Or dead in 10 minutes, right?
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andie52 says:
They can't keep drunk drivers off the road now they will have to deal with drivers who are high and often drunk too. A new study shows smoking a doobie nearly doubles the risk of crashing your car.This is one law that should never be passed.
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sweetlife007 replies:
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Where is this study you talk of? Where are all the crashes from stoners? (You know statistical data)I gotta a feeling it is the drunk drivers who are doing all the crashing.
rmonroe401 replies:
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Did Fox News do the study? ********.
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Fargonone says:
Left out as usual in the percentages of drugs is the fact that although one third of those tested positive for drugs other than alcohol, it was the ALCOHOL that caused the problem most of the time. Fargon
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rightontarget says:
I don't see the problem with legalizing pot. (and no I don't use it but back in the day lots of my friends did.). It's no worse than alcohol. It's all about MODERATION folks. Pot is NOT like Heroine, Coke...etc.. I think it should be treated just like alcohol and anything else that affects driving ability. Drinking, Pot smoking or whatever. A DUI is a DUI, period. ALSO, I REALLY believe the use of cell phones, talking, texting or ANYTHING else (I've even seen women applying makeup while driving) that destracts from driving needs to be made ILLEGAL.
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ta2dblondee says:
Chances are...If the person is high they wont want to leave or go anywhere! If they do I dont see them getting behind the wheel being agressive/angry and trying to run people off the road or speeding around like a *******. If all the nonsmokers only knew the effects marijuana had and compared that to drinking there would be NO problems or arguments. This world would be a lot better of a place if some people actually got off their high horse and smoked a j. Never hurt nobody! :)
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jt92202 says:
It's not like this is a new drug and nobody has smoked it ever, millions of people smoke pot everyday and some of them are stupid and drive. Those that do will get hit with DUI's just like drunks but the fact is it's been happening for decades while it was illegal! Nothing different other than those that have less than a ounce of pot on them can not be arrested any longer as long as they don't have the intent to sell! Freeing up tax dollars to go after bigger and badder things! Look up the history of why pot is illegal, it was all political!
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thebladegirl replies:
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I think it's so funny people are acting like something new is about to happen. Dirty Hippies stoned out of their minds, all over the road, etc etc etc

News Flash!! Weed smokers have been driving all along! lol
Nothing is gonna change except people's lives won't be ruined for simple possession of a harmless herb.

Nobody is saying it's okay do drive when you are high.
Driving while impaired is a criminal offense no matter WHY you are impaired. You could have been up all night you are impaired from lack of sleep, it's not just booze and drugs.

The ReEfer MAdnEss has to stop!
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lauragreen1u says:
Earth to Washington State Patrol spokesman Dan Coon,: Marijuana is not new.
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parisdakar says:
Thanks potheads, for opening this can of worms.
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