AP/ October 27, 2012, 5:53 PM

NYC college president troubled by NYPD spying

This handout photo provided by Jamill Noorata, taken May 3, 2012, shows Shamiur Rahman, left, sitting with Siraj Wahhaj at John Jay Community College in New York.

This handout photo provided by Jamill Noorata, taken May 3, 2012, shows Shamiur Rahman, left, sitting with Siraj Wahhaj at John Jay Community College in New York. / AP Photo/Courtesy of Jamill Noorata

NEW YORK The president of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice said he is "deeply troubled" about reports that the New York Police Department sent a paid informant to spy on the school's club for Muslim students.

School President Jeremy Travis sent a letter to students and professors Thursday reacting to an Associated Press report on the 19-year-old informant, Shamiur Rahman, who said he quit working for the NYPD at the end of the summer after growing uncomfortable with the job.

Rahman said his assignments included attending lectures hosted by John Jay's Muslim Student Association, photographing people attending its events, and identifying its members and leaders.

The college, located in Manhattan, is attended by thousands of students hoping to pursue a career in law enforcement.

In the letter, Travis said he was unaware of the spying, and expressed concerns about using informants for surveillance where there was no evidence of a crime.

"Any surveillance practices that interfere with constitutionally protected activities such as free speech, freedom of association and the free exercise of religion must be considered inconsistent with the mission and values of our College," he wrote.

Police Department spokesman Paul Browne wouldn't comment on Travis' concerns. In an email Saturday, he contested only one part of the letter, in which Travis cited a recent report by another news organization that quoted Browne as confirming that Rahman had indeed been an NYPD informant. Browne denied that he had made that confirmation.

In the past, NYPD officials have repeatedly said the department only uses undercover investigators or confidential informants when it has information indicating the possibility of unlawful activity.

Addressing the college community, Travis said in his letter that "I trust that you would agree that, in certain limited circumstances it is appropriate for law enforcement agencies to use informants to uncover criminal activity. There is no evidence, however, that this is the case at John Jay and we have not been advised otherwise."

Rahman said his work as an informant began last winter, just as the AP was publishing a series of stories about the police department's use of informants and undercover investigators to monitor Muslim student groups around the northeast U.S.

Those articles prompted letters from several college presidents expressing concerns about the tactic.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the department's intelligence-gathering operation as necessary to root out any potential terrorist plots.

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eroteme2 says:
Muslims who do not murder are nice Muslims. Sometimes it is a bit difficult to determine who the nice ones are. Easy to determine the not-nice Muslims after they have done their deed.
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tmittelstaed says:
Fact: Police Dept's use informants all of the time

Fact: Most of the time the things the informant reports on never end up in an arrest.

Fact: NYPD likely has other paid informants at the school

I can think of only one reason that Shamiur Rahman decided to stop informing and go public - he saw something illegal. That's when many casual informants drop out. They see something illegal and realize that these people are playing for keeps, and if they figure out what I'm doing, I will be killed.

If the Muslim club was completely on the up-and-up it would not matter to them if NYPD was monitoring them.
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lifeduringwartime says:
I am all for liberty and freedom but when it comes to these people you cannot play the "give me liberty" speech screw that. Informers work in gang, organized crime and if it can stop a terrorist attack or even "disappear" an extremist" I say right on.
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FP1970 says:
Better he be troubled than a much of Islamists pull off another terrorist coup in Manhattan. What troubles me is why immigration from Islamic nations is still allowed. How badly does America want to be taken over by this ever-hostile group?
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ashorttrip says:
Saving the school from a mass slaughter.
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WagBark says:
Yes, TSIGILI, one's safety is always more important than one's liberty or one's constitutionally protected rights.

What did that man say? "Give me liberty or give me death." Oh, wait, never mind. Hmmm.

Maybe those constitutionally protected rights should only apply to US and not to THEM (whoever "THEM" is).
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Well_You_Aint_Me replies:
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The "Us" is American citizens. The "Them" are foreign nationals and "Wannabe" immigrants.

Do you understand now?
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tsigili says:
He should be glad someone is keeping the school SAFE!
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WagBark replies:
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Yes, TSIGILI, one's safety is always more important than one's liberty or one's constitutionally protected rights.

Like that man said "Give me liberty or give me death." Oh, wait, never mind. Hmmm, what a conundrum. Oh, civil rights are for the birds.

Maybe those constitutionally protected rights should only apply to US and not to THEM (whoever "THEM" is).
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