AP/ August 27, 2012, 5:44 PM

Most Americans say rich should pay more taxes, according to new survey

Warren Buffett's declaration that he didn't pay enough in taxes inspired President Obama's so-called "Buffet rule," a plan that would have wealthier Americans pay no less than 30 percent in taxes

Warren Buffett's declaration that he didn't pay enough in taxes inspired President Obama's so-called "Buffet rule," a plan that would have wealthier Americans pay no less than 30 percent in taxes / AP Photo/Nati Harnik

(AP) WASHINGTON - As the income gap between rich and poor widens, a majority of Americans say the growing divide is bad for the country and believe that wealthy people are paying too little in taxes, according to a new survey.

The poll released Monday by the Pew Research Center points to a particular challenge for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, whose party's policies are viewed by a wide majority as favoring the rich over the middle class and poor.

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The poll found that many Americans believe rich people to be intelligent and hardworking but also greedy and less honest than the average American. Nearly six in 10, or 58 percent, say the rich don't pay enough in taxes, while 26 percent believe the rich pay their fair share and 8 percent say they pay too much.

Even among those who describe themselves as "upper class" or "upper middle class," more than half -- or 52 percent -- said upper-income Americans don't pay enough in taxes; only 10 percent said they paid too much. This upper tier was more likely to say they are more financially secure now than 10 years ago -- 62 percent, compared to 44 percent for those who identified themselves as middle class and 29 percent for the lower class. They are less likely to report problems in paying rent or mortgage, losing a job, paying for medical care or other bills and cutting back on household expenses.

The findings come at the start of this week's Republican National Convention and as both Romney and President Barack Obama seek to appeal to a broad swath of financially struggling voters who identify as middle class. Romney supports an extension of Bush-era tax cuts for everyone including the wealthiest 2 percent, and says his policies will benefit the middle class by boosting the economy and creating jobs.

"The fact that Romney may be viewed as wealthy doesn't necessarily pose problems for his candidacy," said Kim Parker, associate director of Pew Social & Demographic Trends, noting that people see the wealthy as having both positive and negative attributes. "The challenge for Romney lies more in the fact that large majorities say if he is elected president, his policies would likely benefit the wealthy."

The results reinforce a tide of recent economic data showing a widening economic divide. America's middle class has been shrinking in the stagnant economy and poverty is now approaching 1960s highs, while wealth concentrates at the top. A separate Pew survey earlier this year found that tensions between the rich and poor were increasing and at their most intense level in nearly a quarter-century.

In fact, well-off people do shoulder a big share of the tax burden. Though households earning over $1 million annually comprise just 0.3 percent of all taxpayers, they pay 20 percent of all federal taxes the government is projected to collect this year, according to the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan group that studies tax policy. The figures included income, payroll and estate taxes. In contrast, households earning $50,000 to $75,000 a year accounted for 12 percent of taxpayers and contributed 9 percent of federal taxes, the center's data showed. Some 46 percent of households pay no federal income tax at all, although they do pay payroll, excise and other taxes.

The American income tax system has long been designed to be progressive, meaning higher earners are expected to pay a greater share of their income than those making less.

In this year's tax battle in Washington, Obama wants to let the current top rate of 35 percent for high earners rise to 39.6 percent next year. Congressional Republicans would reduce the top rate to 25 percent, while Romney would reduce it to 28 percent. Romney and GOP lawmakers have said they would eliminate some deductions to pay for the rate reductions, but have not specified which ones.

According to Pew's latest findings, about 63 percent of Americans say the GOP favors the rich over the middle class and poor, and 71 percent say Romney's election would be good for wealthy people. A smaller share, 20 percent, says the same about the Democratic Party. More Americans -- 60 percent -- say if Obama is re-elected his policies will benefit the poor, while half say they'll help the middle class and 37 percent say they'll boost the wealthy.


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Smashincar says:
Why should the rich share their wealthy with the ones that do not make enough money and have a ton of kids? If you like money work 1, 2, 3 jobs whatever it takes and save your money and invest or open your own business. We should not expect anything from anybody that's how I was raised and how I raised my daughter.
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Socialism_kills says:
Wow, this discussion is deplorable. Why do people begrudge those who earn more than they do? Make it a flat tax of 20% for everyone. No deductions, etc. Would that make everyone happy? Don't we all have equal opportunity, but not a guarantee of equal outcomes? Next thing you know there will be a proposal for everyone to take all their income and put it into a pool to share equally between everyone in the country. Pathetic.
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Smashincar replies:
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You are so right but it looks like we have created a bunch of I want to have the same things you have without working for it.
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MelodySummers says:
I guess you would consider me one of the 1%ers. Most Amerian's would like me to pay more than they do just because I have more. Sounds like most of the country likes to take from others because they don't want to give anymore. That's called greed..
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MollyHolly94 replies:
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Really? WE'RE GREEDY?
You consider yourself the 1% percent. Therefore, you are more than capable of helping out your fellow Americans. But you'd rather use it on what? Probably shopping and making yourself pretty. It disgusts me to see people like you diss the lower class because we ask for a little HELP from you smug little ********. If ANYONE is being selfish, it's the 1%. Whining because they might need to pay higher taxes. SERIOUSLY?
When you can pay for private jets, and million dollar houses
and the twenty-cars you don't need? And WE, the poor, unemployed, old, disabled people are being greedy because we barely have enough to feed our families and aren't trying to have our taxes raised, our medicare cut and our lifelines destroyed?

Get real Melody.
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If you truly are a 1%er, (which I highly doubt you are), then you should study the tax code and what rate you pay in income taxes, (or pay someone to explain it to you), before you even speak on the topic. Your argument is undoubtedly ignorant and entirely unpatriotic. To begin, when you compare the average income tax rate that middle-class citizens pay to the so called 1%er's, the disproportionate amounts are blatant. Infact, one of the most popular arguments is that the 1% is paying up to 90% of the taxes. But wait, if they own 98% of the wealth, wouldn't they pay 98% of the taxes?? Therefore, the hard-working people that collectively hold 2% of our nation's wealth are paying around 10% of all taxes...should that be considered fair?!?!? So it is not us who are greedy, it is people like yourself who are squandering the majority of the wealth for themselves that are obviously the GREEDY ones. Moreover, while people like myself are working hard just to pay rent and get through school, we pay an average conservative amount of 30% in income taxes. That's about 1/3 of our check that goes to fund schools, national security, infrastructure projects, social programs, and everything else that helps contribute to a better America. People like yourself contribute an average of 16% and "don't want to give anymore" to help better America. This is not only unpatriotic, but overtly destructive to our Great nation. The wealthiest members of society may argue that the "trickle-down theory" works, however, if there is no trickle-down, there is no theory. So instead of building that 3rd vacation home, or buying another jet, "Ask what you could do for your Country." -(Kennedy 1961).
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alaouiali says:
I have an idea: we just need their money so why not force them to invest a certain percentage of their wealth, while giving them the freedom to choose their investment.
http://www.alaouiali.com/2012/08/29/the-rich-arent-playing-the-game/
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smcecil says:
I guess people do need to do a little bit of reading about the history of the tax codes and the kinds of economics that have been implemented in the US (and other places) throughout history. Unfortunately they just listen to simple slogans meant to easily sway their uniformed minds. They could wikki the Laffer Curve (which Art Laffer even attributes to JM Keynes if you could believe -- but it is age-old economic theory). Higher taxes does not necessarily = higher gov't revenue and at a certain point (on the curve) causes huge decreases in revenue -- hurting EVERYONE. It might sound good to say "tax the rich" but people need to really understand what it's all about and not just fall for silly slogans. When they talk about how much rich people pay, they have to understand there is income, dividend, capital gains taxes (corporate taxes), charitable deductions and other such deductions (gov't incentives). And even if you understood what percentage of income "rich people" pay in taxes, you would still be completely shocked at the actual $$ amount they pay. If a person pays $3.2 million in taxes in a year is that really not enough -- let's get out the pitch forks and torches and storm the castle.
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Smashincar replies:
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Lower class need to work more if they need more money, they shouldn't expect hand outs just because they are lazy!!
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Lindag20 says:
by TheFoundersLive August 28, 2012 6:24 AM EDT
Minimum wage laws leads to unemployment. Minimum wage laws do not help workers.
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Mortar, not only are you unwilling to pay income taxes to support the operations of government that society (through our elected representatives) has deemed necessary, you are ALSO in favor of allowing employers to exploit their workers. What a heartless position to take.
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arthanyel replies:
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Technically The FoundersLive is correct that minimum wage laws lead to some unemployment. That said, that's because we have created a self-fulfilling prophecy. Unrestrained capitalism means anyone can make anything anywhere, with no regard for the environment, the society, or the United States as a country. This is why unrestrained capitalism is as bad as unrestrained communism, or unrestrained socialism. Some restriants are necessary to make a modern livable society and the minimum wgae is (literally) a small price to pay for maintaining working citizens at a minimum level of support.
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SpittinBullitz says:
Maybe Romney's more worried about tithing he didn't pay to the Mormon Church than he is about how much he paid in taxes. Mormons are supposed to pay 10% in tithing and if I recall correctly Romney only paid 7% in 2010. Hmmmmm....
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KPeters_from_UK says:
Remember Leona Helmsley? The US billionaire hotelier who said, "Only the little people pay taxes".
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TheFoundersLive replies:
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So?
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gracescalia says:
I guess most Americans DON'T KNOW that the rich **ALREADY PAY** THE HIGHEST TAXES.

Sounds like with the disappearance of the middle-class, all people want are subsidies.
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Resin-Smoker says:
1) Eliminate all tax loop-holes, force companies that do business in the US to have the majority of their holdings locally and hire US works. Otherwise they should face steep import tarrifs without exception.

2) Ta hell with Globalization, businesses must create local jobs to create wages to buy locally produced products.

3) Have all earnings / income become a matter of public record.

4) Ban corporate contributions to political elections.

5) Citizenship should not be a right but should be something that's earned by service to ones country. All others not declared citizens are allowed to stay but pay much higher taxes until they're able to earn it.
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Socialism_kills replies:
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Resin-smoker, dude, #3 is total crap.
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