AP/ August 21, 2012, 10:19 AM

NYPD: No leads, terror cases from Muslim spying

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(AP) NEW YORK - In more than six years of spying on Muslim neighborhoods, eavesdropping on conversations and cataloguing mosques, the New York Police Department's secret Demographics Unit never generated a lead or triggered a terrorism investigation, the department acknowledged in court testimony unsealed late Monday.

The Demographics Unit is at the heart of a police spying program, built with help from the CIA, which assembled databases on where Muslims lived, shopped, worked and prayed. Police infiltrated Muslim student groups, put informants in mosques, monitored sermons and catalogued every Muslim in New York who adopted new, Americanized surnames.

Police hoped the Demographics Unit would serve as an early warning system for terrorism. And if police ever got a tip about, say, an Afghan terrorist in the city, they'd know where he was likely to rent a room, buy groceries and watch sports.

But in a June 28 deposition as part of a longstanding federal civil rights case, Assistant Chief Thomas Galati said none of the conversations the officers overheard ever led to a case.

"Related to Demographics," Galati testified that information that has come in "has not commenced an investigation."

The NYPD is the largest police department in the nation and Mayor Michael Bloomberg has held up its counterterrorism tactics as a model for the rest of the country. After The Associated Press began reporting on those tactics last year, supporters argued that the Demographics Unit was central to keeping the city safe. Galati testified that it was an important tool, but conceded it had not generated any leads.

"I never made a lead from rhetoric that came from a Demographics report, and I'm here since 2006," he said. "I don't recall other ones prior to my arrival. Again, that's always a possibility. I am not aware of any."

Galati, the commanding officer of the NYPD Intelligence Division, offered the first official look at the Demographics Unit, which the NYPD denied ever existed when it was revealed by the AP last year. He described how police gather information on people even when there is no evidence of wrongdoing, simply because of their ethnicity and native language.

As a rule, Galati said, a business can be labeled a "location of concern" whenever police can expect to find groups of Middle Easterners there.

Galati testified as part of a lawsuit that began in 1971 over NYPD spying on students, civil rights groups and suspected Communist sympathizers during the 1950s and 1960s. The lawsuit, known as the Handschu case, resulted in federal guidelines that prohibit the NYPD from collecting information about political speech unless it is related to potential terrorism.

Civil rights lawyers believe the Demographics Unit violated those rules. Documents obtained by the AP show the unit conducted operations outside its jurisdiction, including in New Jersey. The FBI there said those operations damaged its partnerships with Muslims and jeopardized national security.

In one instance discussed in the testimony, plainclothes NYPD officers known as "rakers" overheard two Pakistani men complaining about airport security policies that they believed unfairly singled out Muslims. They bemoaned what they saw as the nation's anti-Muslim sentiment since the 2001 terrorist attacks.

Galati said police were allowed to collect that information because the men spoke Urdu, a fact that could help police find potential terrorists in the future.

"I'm seeing Urdu. I'm seeing them identify the individuals involved in that are Pakistani," Galati explained. "I'm using that information for me to determine that this would be a kind of place that a terrorist would be comfortable in."

He added, "Most Urdu speakers from that region would be of concern, so that's why it's important to me."

About 15 million Pakistanis and 60 million Indians speak Urdu. Along with English, it is one of the national languages of Pakistan.

In another example, Galati said, eavesdropping on a conversation in a Lebanese cafe could be useful, even if the topic is innocuous. Analysts might be able to determine that the customers were from South Lebanon, he said, adding, "That may be an indicator of possibility that that is a sympathizer to Hezbollah because Southern Lebanon is dominated by Hezbollah."

After the AP began reporting on the Demographics Unit, the department's former senior analyst, Mitchell Silber, said the unit provided the tip that ultimately led to a case against a bookstore clerk who was convicted of plotting to bomb the Herald Square subway station in Manhattan. Galati testified that he could find no evidence of that.

Attorney Jethro Eisenstein, who filed the Handschu case more than 40 years ago and questioned Galati during the deposition, said he will go back to court soon to ask that the Demographics Unit be shut down. It operates today under a new name, the Zone Assessment Unit. It recently stopped operating out of state, Galati said.

"This is a terribly pernicious set of policies," Eisenstein said. "No other group since the Japanese Americans in World War II has been subjected to this kind of widespread public policy."

Dozens of members of Congress have asked the Justice Department to investigate the NYPD. Attorney General Eric Holder has said he was disturbed by the reports. But John Brennan, President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser, has said he is confident the NYPD's activities are lawful and have kept the city safe.

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JamesAt17 says:
Now even those returning from the Middle East of our military are suspected of being terrorist in the makings. Brain trama and PDST are pushing those returning to fire back on the government because of the things they were put though in those countries. Even a grandfather walking a grandchild down a city steet can now be suspect of being a terrorist. Now even you and me for making comments. Its too late to stop now if they really do have everything I have ever said in a comments section. I may be on their list, but my number is so high that it would already be seen my millions that they are raiding homes and taking people away for all of the reasons we are reading. I really don't think they will be doing that. Whatever it is going to be is going to be big enough to gather everyone scared out of their wits to follow them into those FEMA camps hoping to be protected from the bad guys. That will be the public's biggest mistake.
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JamesAt17 says:
Now even those returning from the Middle East of our military are suspected of being terrorist in the makings. Brain trama and PDST are pushing those returning to fire back on the government because of the things they were put though in those countries. Even a grandfather walking a grandchild down a city steet can now be suspect of being a terrorist. Now even you and me for making comments. Its too late to stop now if they really do have everything I have ever said in a comments section. I may be on their list, but my number is so high that it would already be seen my millions that they are raiding homes and taking people away for all of the reasons we are reading. I really don't think they will be doing that. Whatever it is going to be is going to be big enough to gather everyone scared out of their wits to follow them into those FEMA camps hoping to be protected from the bad guys. That will be the public's biggest mistake.
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borysd says:
Mayor Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Kelly should resign and if not forced out!
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StrongHelmet says:
Perhaps those posting and the NYPD should listen to http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/471/the-convert.
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melbatom says:
Good for New York. RMEMBER during the Second World War we used about the same action and NOT ONE German spy failed to be found and intercepted by the FBI and they were used to mislead the German intelligence spy activity. Well done. You can bet that is happening over the USA right now for radical terrorist activity has been caught every time. Only one that was stupid was what happened on the border with weapons but that was no run by our anti terrorist activity for sure. Any time political wise guys try to be super man they usually wind up being a clown.
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Predictor says:
"There is grave danger, give us more power," is the refrain of the authoritarian.

History offers plenty of guidance: Such deference provided to the "law and order" crowd does not lead to increased safety, but to a consolidation of power, and a decrease in liberty. Worst of all, once the few are given that power, they are extremely reluctant to relinquish it.
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