CBS News/ August 18, 2012, 10:06 PM

Suspects in deputy killings linked to extremists

St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff deputies examine a car with bullet holes at a crime scene where two sheriffs were killed and two wounded in LaPlace, La., Thursday, Aug. 16, 2012.

St. John the Baptist Parish Sheriff deputies examine a car with bullet holes at a crime scene where two sheriffs were killed and two wounded in LaPlace, La., Thursday, Aug. 16, 2012. / AP Photo/Gerald Herbert

(AP) NEW ORLEANS - At least some of the seven people arrested in a fatal shootout with Louisiana deputies have been linked to violent anarchists on the FBI's domestic terrorism watch lists, a sheriff said Saturday.

Detectives had been monitoring the group before Thursday's shootout in Laplace in which two deputies were killed and two more wounded, said DeSoto Parish Sheriff Rodney Arbuckle. His detectives and other law enforcement discovered the suspects were heavily armed adherents to an ideology known as the "sovereign citizens" movement.

The FBI has classified "sovereign citizens" as people who believe they are free from all duties of a U.S. citizen, like paying taxes. The FBI considers the group's members a danger for making threats to judges and law enforcement, using fake currency and impersonating police officers.

The seven suspects have been charged in the shooting of Deputy Michael Scott Boyington, who survived. But authorities have said murder charges are pending.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation said it was investigating the killings but declined to comment Saturday and referred questions to the Louisiana State Police, the lead investigating agency.

Arrested were the group's apparent leader, 44-year-old Terry Smith, his wife, Chanel Skains, 37, and his two sons, Derrick Smith, 22, and Brian Lyn Smith, 24. Also arrested were Brittney Keith, the girlfriend of Brian Smith; Kyle David Joekel, 28, and a woman living with him, 21-year-old Teniecha Bright.

Brian Smith was charged with attempted first-degree murder and the others with related charges.

Detectives in Tennessee, Nebraska and Louisiana have sketched a portrait of an outlaw gang led by a 44-year-old accused molester named Terry Smith, who has a criminal record dating to 1984 in Morehouse Parish, the Times-Picayune reported Saturday.

Morehouse Parish Sheriff Mike Stubbs said the Smith family was notorious. He said they lived for a long time in a house on the outskirts of Bastrop.

"We had a good bit of dealings with them," he said. He said the Smith brothers had been involved in theft and drugs.

Arbuckle, reached by telephone by The Associated Press, said his deputies had the group under surveillance and considered them armed and dangerous before they suddenly left his parish about two months ago. He said they had set up camp at a mobile home park while they working at an International Paper plant.

The sheriff said deputies became suspicious after they investigated a reported burglary in May at the park's laundry. The detectives discovered members wanted under warrants issued in Tennessee, Nebraska and Louisiana.

"Once we had them on our radar we started doing research on them," he said. Arbuckle said his detectives monitored the group until they left in November.

Sovereign citizens are a loosely organized movement founded in the 1970s and more fully developed in the 1980s, according to the Anti-Defamation League website. Sovereign citizens believe that all levels of government have no jurisdiction over them and resist — sometimes with violence — authority including police, the website said.

They also like to use what is dubbed "paper terrorism." It involves using frivolous lawsuits and fake documents and of using genuine documents such as IRS forms to intimidate, harass and coerce public officials, law enforcement officers and private citizens.

Arbuckle said his detectives could easily have been the victims instead of the St. John the Baptist Parish deputies killed and wounded. Deputies Brandon Nielsen and Jeremy Triche were killed and along with Boyington, Jason Triche was wounded. The Triches were somehow related, authorities said.

"We understand they had some pretty good firepower," Arbuckle said. "This very well could have been us" in the gunfight, he said.

He said the group traveled the country in trailers doing construction work and possessed a stockpile of weapons.

They were arrested after an early morning assault on Boyington led to the deadly shootout in the mobile home park in Laplace, a suburb west of New Orleans. Boyington was shot at the entrance of a parking lot used by contract workers on a job at a nearby oil refinery. He was working off-duty on a security detail at the lot.

Shortly thereafter, the other deputies were shot at the trailer park where a car involved in the first shooting was spotted.

Joekel and Brian Smith were hospitalized with gunshot wounds and will be jailed once they are out of the hospital. The others were jailed with bonds ranging from $350,000 to $750,000.

The Gage County, Neb., Sheriff's Office website listed Joekel among its most wanted fugitives, saying he is accused of making "terroristic threats" to patrons of a Nebraska bar and law enforcement officials.

Sgt. Len Marie, a state police spokesman, said investigators were amassing evidence. He said the agency had received the reports from the DeSoto sheriff and other law enforcement agencies in other states. He said the FBI and Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms was involved.

He said it was too early to verify links to the extremist groups associated with the sovereign citizen movement.

"We are confident that we have the people responsible for this in custody," Marie said.

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BWB2020 says:
An idea whose time has passed, will not simply fade away. Extremists (this time, of the right wing variety) who hold such obsolete sociopolitical views are often brainwashed by their pimps to go out in a blaze of hatred.

The recent election of a non-"white" president was the clearest signal yet that their days are numbered and rapidly diminishing.

I predicted long ago that such incidents would become more common as the last dregs of the unevolved are consigned, kicking and screaming, into the septic tank of history, where they have been long overdue.

Even the kkk/stormfront crowd, whose own websites detailed the tactics they used to infiltrate and take over the tea party, acknowledged the fact of their waning influence in society as their motivation. Even they can hear, as I do, the first notes of the fat lady's voice, and while they don't like it, to me it is one of the sweetest sounds that I can ever hope to hear.

Actually there is no such valid concept as a "sovereign citizen", one can be a citizen, or a sovereign, but not both. If they choose to be sovereign, then they are not citizens, and should thus be treated as illegal aliens, without the ability to claim the rights of a citizen. The right to own arms is a right granted to a citizen, not a "sovereign". take up arms against American citizens is tantamount to declaring war against us, and the consequences of such are on their own head.

If they are citizens, then they should recognize and adhere to the responsibilities of being such, which includes paying taxes, and obeying the laws of the land, or work within the system to try to effect changes they might think they want.
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formerlyluvnut says:
It's amazing the cave dwellers that live in this world. It's bad enough we have to put up with Congress but then we hafta put up with these kind of "people" too.
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norulers says:
ALL humans are born as free, SOVEREIGN individuals. No individual or collective entity can rule others without their CONSENT. To believe otherwise, you must believe that men are born as SLAVES.
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Verascity replies:
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Sorry Charley, the majority of us disagree with your basic premise. Remember, "Love it or leave it?" The border's thataway.
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TLUnrine1 says:
First problem I see is that these "police officers" surely can't chase a suspect on foot, over fences, through yards - - maybe the greatest threat to their lives is a salad.

I don't care about the unions - if a police officer can't chase a donut rolling down the floor that falls from the table - he needs to find another job.

Seeing overweight police officers like some pictured here is a disgrace, and they can't chase suspects, and crime is going to increase. All you have to do is run faster than overweight Bubba.
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formerlyluvnut replies:
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I thought the same thing. Disgusting.
bois-darc replies:
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And yet they can still give the ultimate sacrifice in the line of duty!
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wdrussell1 says:
Anarchists are the militant wing of the Libertarian Party.
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norulers replies:
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WRONG! There's nothing "militant" about living as a free individual and refusing to be ruled by murdering tyrants without your CONSENT.
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
Verascity replies:
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Dear no, it's militant when you start using weapons against the rest of us.
Try this cr*p anywhere else in the world and see how long you last.
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bobnjersey says:
[the group traveled the country in trailers doing construction work and possessed a stockpile of weapons.]
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no doubt that 'traveling construction' gig is very dangerous ... and the stockpile was just for protection.
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Jaylah54200 says:
Then why were they still out running around, with guns?
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skeezix06 replies:
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Because the NRA thinks everyone should have complete access to whatever guns they want to buy.
Well_You_Aint_Me replies:
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Because the policing officials, FBI, ATF, DHS, etc., are more interested in "building a case" to get a conviction than they are to protecting the public.

When seconds count the police are only minutes away.
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moshe05 says:
right wing terrorism has exploded over the past few years. it is amazing how dangerous and violent they are. but then again, in context, it is quite usual. after all, the era of the lynch mobs did not end all that long ago.
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ludvig1-2009 says:
Democrats - functioning government Republicans very small government. These guys no government at all. It would appear they are right wing extremists, closer to Republican thinking than Democratic thinking.
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askagain replies:
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Dream on. How many Republicans do you know who are linked to terrorist groups and anarchists? Your argument isn't even credible.
skeezix06 replies:
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"The FBI has classified "sovereign citizens" as people who believe they are free from all duties of a U.S. citizen, like paying taxes. The FBI considers the group's members a danger for making threats to judges and law enforcement, using fake currency and impersonating police officers."

Translation: Opposed to paying taxes and carrying guns (see impersonating police officers for the gun thing); both traits of the republican and tea party. In other words, right wing extremists.
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